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PrintableZombieKitten said: usedtobebliss said: hamilton?... they have shops... like a little town my workmate told me the prices in those little shops were crippling, so he and his fiancee went hungry  i wouldn't say crippling... but i expect things to be on expensive on a resort island if i go away to have a good time... i just have a ball and deal with it later.... i went to vanuatu with friends who did nothing but whine the whole time we were there... about everything from the rain to the cost of peanut butter... what a drag.... if i can't afford to go somewhere i'd rather not go | |
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usedtobebliss said: ZombieKitten said: my workmate told me the prices in those little shops were crippling, so he and his fiancee went hungry i wouldn't say crippling... but i expect things to be on expensive on a resort island if i go away to have a good time... i just have a ball and deal with it later.... i went to vanuatu with friends who did nothing but whine the whole time we were there... about everything from the rain to the cost of peanut butter... what a drag.... if i can't afford to go somewhere i'd rather not go  that is true
we spent soooo much money in the USA - did we care when we were there? NO but do we care now? somewhat more, but no, not really 
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usedtobebliss said: ZombieKitten said: my workmate told me the prices in those little shops were crippling, so he and his fiancee went hungry i wouldn't say crippling... but i expect things to be on expensive on a resort island if i go away to have a good time... i just have a ball and deal with it later.... i went to vanuatu with friends who did nothing but whine the whole time we were there... about everything from the rain to the cost of peanut butter... what a drag.... if i can't afford to go somewhere i'd rather not go You went during their wet season didn't you lol? Were you in Port Vila? Vanuatu is lovely and personally I found it to be very reasonably priced, cheap actually from souvenirs to local foods and markets. Still I'll always prefer being in the West Indies. | |
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usedtobebliss said: a roof over your head and 3 meals a day makes you ridiculously wealthy compared to how so many people in the world live  Best answer ever. | |
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PanthaGirl said: usedtobebliss said: i wouldn't say crippling... but i expect things to be on expensive on a resort island if i go away to have a good time... i just have a ball and deal with it later.... i went to vanuatu with friends who did nothing but whine the whole time we were there... about everything from the rain to the cost of peanut butter... what a drag.... if i can't afford to go somewhere i'd rather not go You went during their wet season didn't you lol? Were you in Port Vila? Vanuatu is lovely and personally I found it to be very reasonably priced, cheap actually from souvenirs to local foods and markets. Still I'll always prefer being in the West Indies. somewhat ... we were in a few places... but around port villa a lot.... i ended up having a ball... i met some local dudes who were working building some thingy majiggy (technical i know) on a beach... i offered to help... they kinda took me in and invited me to meet their families... we eneded up back on the beach playing guitars and singing all night... drinking beers... it was awesome...i got a real feel for the people... made a lot of friends
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usedtobebliss said: PanthaGirl said: You went during their wet season didn't you lol? Were you in Port Vila? Vanuatu is lovely and personally I found it to be very reasonably priced, cheap actually from souvenirs to local foods and markets. Still I'll always prefer being in the West Indies. somewhat ... we were in a few places... but around port villa a lot.... i ended up having a ball... i met some local dudes who were working building some thingy majiggy (technical i know) on a beach... i offered to help... they kinda took me in and invited me to meet their families... we eneded up back on the beach playing guitars and singing all night... drinking beers... it was awesome...i got a real feel for the people... made a lot of friends
and yeah... it wasn't an expensive place 
That's brilliant the natives are so welcoming and humbling it's awesome being able to mix in with their culture and traditions alike. My friend and I met some lovely locals and we shared fun times and traded stories on our countries and even had a few jokes about cannibalism thrown in too. Overall a great experience but the tropical heat was unbearable at times lol. | |
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Byron said: Fauxie said: Ok, so since I can have a camera and can travel a bit those are my luxuries I enjoy therefore I'm rich. So rich for me would be those necessities I listed plus a few luxuries. That seems alright. 
What struck me though is that while I'd say I LOVE photography, I wouldn't care, as in really truly care, if I couldn't do it. Then I tried to think of other things or experiences beyond necessities that I could say I really, truly care about and couldn't come up with anything, except maybe music. I couldn't live without having some music to listen to, but is that a luxury? Then there are things like big family barbecues and eating out which could be luxuries elsewhere but here is just an everyday thing that can be enjoyed by (nearly) all. Wow. Do I just have absolutely no ambition or passions?  I just like life. You know, getting up in the morning and still being alive, putting food in my mouth and it tastes nice. Feeling that nice amount of sleepiness where you know you'll sleep well so you just enjoy the feeling for a few minutes before falling into a nice, cozy sleep.
 Interesting thread (for once!), Ocean. 
See, I don't think there's anything at all wrong with that...in fact, I'd guess that most of us would be envious of you lol  . I think there's a serenity to finding contentment in simply living and the "everyday" pleasures...I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to experience as much as Life provides, though, either. I don't think either one is really any "better" than the other...just depends on which one brings you happiness and peace of mind.
For me, I know I need to be able to travel...when I do, it feels as if that's exactly what my soul was meant to experience. Different lands, different cultures, different foods, different languages, different scenery...or just traveling around the U.S.. Hell, just traveling 3 hours away is often enough lol ...the same feeling comes with photography, I feel completely at peace with a camera in my hand. The sound of the shutter release at the exact moment when I know I've found an image is exhilarating...when I go long periods without taking any photos I start to feel stagnant and lethargic, like I'm wasting the time given to me almost.
So for me, those two things being an unobstructed part of my life would make me feel "rich" (along with all the other shit I listed lol)... Two cool orgers
I am rich if i have enough money to have a roof over my head feed my family and provide what is necessary for my children I also want to be happy which involves certain activities that require a bit of money but not much The cut off for me is the difference between happiness, or maybe contentment would be a better word, and self gratification. Self gratification is as i see it the bigger t.v, the better faster car, the better phone/kitchen/watch/various stuff etc. In my own experience this just leads to a circle of diminishing returns, each new upgrade requires a further upgrade to satisfy the self, and happiness/contentment becomes that much harder to achieve. That may sound a bit preachy but it just my opinion 
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Our home is 100% paid for
We have enough to pay all our bills We eat well We take vacations when we wish to We save for our grandchildren We are paying for college ... in my perspective of $/wealth/richness we're rich
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“Rich” is 10% more than you’re making now. And it always will be. |
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Mach said: Our home is 100% paid for
We have enough to pay all our bills We eat well We take vacations when we wish to We save for our grandchildren We are paying for college ... in my perspective of $/wealth/richness we're rich
That's "rich" to me, too ...
So...can I borrow some money?  | |
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usedtobebliss said: Byron said: LoL @ the golf buggies ...I walked everywhere on "Hamo", even during the brief times it rained. I did a shitload of hiking, and left the golf carts alone.
Actually, I think it was YOU that got me interested in going to Hamilton Island lol ...Didn't you go there (or to some island anyway) on your honeymoon or something?
...! [Edited 5/20/09 2:33am] i showed a few pics where we hired a boat and sailed around the whitsundays for 7 days and night... i've been back a few times... stayed on hayman island etc wedding/honeymoon was on an island in fiji there are some great walks on hamilton... i just love the whitsundays in general.... did you do any daytrips while you were there? Nope, stayed on Hamilton Island the entire time (which was only 4 days lol). But then again, there was enough hiking trails and photo opportunities to last me 2 weeks if I wanted to stay there that long. I went there alone, so I didn't take part in anything social or go to the bars/clubs down at the docks or anything. Mostly just hiked, took shitloads of photos and ordered room service lol ...If I went there with someone I'd be far more social and take far less photographs and do far less hiking (unless they were into hiking as well). | |
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To me, being financially rich would mean I have several million dollars in the bank, zero debt, do not HAVE to work for someone else, and can buy anything I want, whether it's a house, car or art, CASH. | |
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Byron said: Mach said: Our home is 100% paid for
We have enough to pay all our bills We eat well We take vacations when we wish to We save for our grandchildren We are paying for college ... in my perspective of $/wealth/richness we're rich
That's "rich" to me, too ...
So...can I borrow some money? Hit me up via orgnote and we might can work out the payback deatils 
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Mach said: Byron said: That's "rich" to me, too ...
So...can I borrow some money? Hit me up via orgnote and we might can work out the payback deatils
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Byron said: Mach said: Hit me up via orgnote and we might can work out the payback deatils
LoL | |
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SCNDLS said: To me, being financially rich would mean I have several million dollars in the bank, zero debt, do not HAVE to work for someone else, and can buy anything I want, whether it's a house, car or art, CASH.
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At this point if I can comfortably afford a small, but cozy home for my kids I'd be happy.
I'd like to be able to pay my bills and not worry from month to month how I'll manage. I'd like to take a nice trip every once in a while. I'd like to save money for emergencies and for my childrens' college education. If I can do those things then I will be happy. Of course anything more would be nice, but if that's all I ever have I'll be fine with it. | |
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hokie said: At this point if I can comfortably afford a small, but cozy home for my kids I'd be happy.
I'd like to be able to pay my bills and not worry from month to month how I'll manage. I'd like to take a nice trip every once in a while. I'd like to save money for emergencies and for my childrens' college education. If I can do those things then I will be happy. Of course anything more would be nice, but if that's all I ever have I'll be fine with it. You'd consider yourself heppy...but would you consider yourself rich? | |
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Byron said: hokie said: At this point if I can comfortably afford a small, but cozy home for my kids I'd be happy.
I'd like to be able to pay my bills and not worry from month to month how I'll manage. I'd like to take a nice trip every once in a while. I'd like to save money for emergencies and for my childrens' college education. If I can do those things then I will be happy. Of course anything more would be nice, but if that's all I ever have I'll be fine with it. You'd consider yourself heppy...but would you consider yourself rich? Yes because being happy is being rich to me. | |
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hokie said: Byron said: You'd consider yourself heppy...but would you consider yourself rich? Yes because being happy is being rich to me. Do you think you could be happy with very little money? | |
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Byron said: hokie said: Yes because being happy is being rich to me. Do you think you could be happy with very little money? Do you mean very little extra once my bills and basic necessities are taken care of? Or do you mean constantly struggling to afford things? | |
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hokie said: Byron said: Do you think you could be happy with very little money? Do you mean very little extra once my bills and basic necessities are taken care of? Or do you mean constantly struggling to afford things? I was actually thinking of some people I've met over the years who have come here from other countries, and who had next to nothing in their lives while in their birth countries beyond literally a roof over their heads and food in their stomachs. Things like health care and college and such weren't really part of their realities. Yet they talked about how much happier they felt they were without the added burdens that life in the U.S. tends to bring with it. They loved the country, but also found themselves more stressed and worried even though they had more here than they did in their country or origin. So, I was wondering if you felt you could still find yourself just as happy if the absolute basics were taken care of, but nothing else (food for you and your kids, the security of a home that won't be taken away...but that's it). I've wondered this about myself from time to time
jeebus, how many fucking mistakes can I make? lol  [Edited 5/20/09 11:27am] | |
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Byron said: hokie said: Do you mean very little extra once my bills and basic necessities are taken care of? Or do you mean constantly struggling to afford things? I was actually thinking of some people I've met over the years who have come here from other countries, and who had next to nothing in their lives while in their birth countries beyond literally a roof over their heads and food in their stomachs. Things like health care and college and such weren't really part of their realities. Yet they talked about how much happier they felt they were without the added burdens that life in the U.S. tends to bring with it. They loved the country, but also found themselves more stressed and worried even though they had more here than they did in their country or origin. You know I want to say I would be, but in reality I'm sure I'd long for more. Don't we all? I am very thankful for what I have. I think in day to day life it's easy to lose sight of what's really important. Sometimes it takes a certain event or meeting someone to put things in perspective. So, yes I could be happy but I'm sure there would be times where I'd want more. So, I was wondering if you felt you could still find yourself just as happy if the absolute basics were taken care of, but nothing else (food for you and your kids, the security of a home that won't be taken away...but that's it). I've wondered this about myself from time to time
jeebus, how many fucking mistakes can I make? lol
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hokie said: Byron said: I was actually thinking of some people I've met over the years who have come here from other countries, and who had next to nothing in their lives while in their birth countries beyond literally a roof over their heads and food in their stomachs. Things like health care and college and such weren't really part of their realities. Yet they talked about how much happier they felt they were without the added burdens that life in the U.S. tends to bring with it. They loved the country, but also found themselves more stressed and worried even though they had more here than they did in their country or origin. You know I want to say I would be, but in reality I'm sure I'd long for more. Don't we all? I am very thankful for what I have. I think in day to day life it's easy to lose sight of what's really important. Sometimes it takes a certain event or meeting someone to put things in perspective. So, yes I could be happy but I'm sure there would be times where I'd want more. So, I was wondering if you felt you could still find yourself just as happy if the absolute basics were taken care of, but nothing else (food for you and your kids, the security of a home that won't be taken away...but that's it). I've wondered this about myself from time to time
jeebus, how many fucking mistakes can I make? lol
[Edited 5/20/09 11:27am] Ok, it took a moment to separate your comments from mine lol (side effect of Pepsi use: losing the ability to quote and respond correctly on message boards )...
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Byron said: hokie said: Ok, it took a moment to separate your comments from mine lol (side effect of Pepsi use: losing the ability to quote and respond correctly on message boards )...
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[Edited 5/20/09 11:33am] You need to stop drinking Coke.
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usedtobebliss said: a roof over your head and 3 meals a day makes you ridiculously wealthy compared to how so many people in the world live
agree...I always think about people that are struggling.... but to answer Oceans question. A house with four bedrooms, a large backyard and a pool...large rooms...4 floors...attic, basement, first and second floor. unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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PANDURITO said: SCNDLS said: To me, being financially rich would mean I have several million dollars in the bank, zero debt, do not HAVE to work for someone else, and can buy anything I want, whether it's a house, car or art, CASH.
To you...and the rest of the planet Uh, no everybody defines rich differently, just look at this thread. So go away.  | |
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SCNDLS said: PANDURITO said: To you...and the rest of the planet Uh, no everybody defines rich differently, just look at this thread. So go away. unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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My house paid, kids college expenses paid, and enough money to take a couple vacations a year and not stress about it. A couple million would be nice. | |
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Byron said: Do you think you could be happy with very little money?
I used to. I was happy to be alive. Is there any place of refuge one can flee from this insanity | |
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