"Who's" not "whose", btw.

veronikka said:

You like Chris Rock?

I love CR!

It's not gender specific. Men and women both are complicated it's all on the person.

PanthaGirl said:

GOOD answer

rocknrolldave said:

and it isn't WHOSE you are so right

rocknrolldave said:

Thanks Mickey H....

Some folks are just simple, like me:

I love cuddling, and I like things done right

simple as that

Byron said:

Women by a country mile.

Byron said:

I don't consider men stupid at all. Stupid means u are incapable of learning; a birth defect if you will. Men (generally speaking) are very smart as are women - just smart in different ways. I gave my definition of complicated in the initial thread post. Complicated is a relative term which is why some orgers say men are more complicated and some say women. Its all about understanding. In reality our ability to understand and figure out the opposite sex depends on our knowledge of the prototypes...basically the first models who tend to be our parents. They teach us alot about men and women.

Our opinions about the opposite sex are also clouded/skewed by our own gender. Clearly our brains aren't wired the same so we spend quite a bit of time trying to understand the other.

The point I'm trying to make about the men folk is that I find them to be more complicated overall. All the food and sex stuff aside; that's just animal instinct really and we all get it. They still IMO speak a different language, tend to be stuck in their own head most of the time, tend to see the world from only their perspective and when they yield to another person/situtation which is rare, it's not because its a moral or ethical thing to do but rather it benefits them in some way. I will do "this" because it will get me "that" sort of mentality.

Women are less complicated IMO but purposely more difficult. Women are easy to figure out. They want to feel loved, appreciated, pretty, and smart. And most important. They want to be heard no matter how insipid or important the message they try and convey. Yep that's what I think.

Now a woman will probably read this thru and analyze and debate the comments after honestly giving them serious thought. A man will scan it for select words, make a comment that has nothing to do with what I just said or he'll scratch his balls and say "i don't get it." J/k

All you typo/grammar police and kiss my ARSE! What the fuck took you so long anyway?



who's
whose
hooz
joose (espanol of course)
and so forth

DesireeNevermind said:

But none of that speaks to being "complicated", though. I would also question your assertion that you don't think men are stupid lol...Men, in your eyes, are "inarticulate", "can't finish sentences", "their brains can't handle more than one concept at a time" (while a woman can talk about "a dozen subjects in under 5 minutes")...they become "needy brats" when alone, don't have the mental capacity to "multi-task" and couldn't even "run a home" if they had to...

That doesn't sound like a smart person to me lol.

To be honest, I think that men are easier to figure out than women are, and that might be more in line in thinking that once you DO figure out a man, you've figured him out for life. However, with a woman, once you've figured her out she changes the rules 3 months later ...

But out of curiosity, what are the numerous shortcomings that you see women as having?

One last joking comment on the subject lol:


Let's say a guy named Roger is attracted to a woman named Elaine. He asks her out to a movie; she accepts; they have a pretty good time. A few nights later he asks her out to dinner, and again they enjoy themselves. They continue to see each other regularly, and after a while neither one of them is seeing anybody else.

And then, one evening when they're driving home, a thought occurs to Elaine, and without really thinking, she says it aloud: ''Do you realize that, as of tonight, we've been seeing each other for exactly six months?''

And then there is silence in the car. To Elaine, it seems like a very loud silence. She thinks to herself: "Geez, I wonder if it bothers him that I said that. Maybe he's been feeling confined by our relationship; maybe he thinks I'm trying to push him into some kind of obligation that he doesn't want, or isn't sure of."

And Roger is thinking: "Gosh. Six months."

And Elaine is thinking: "But, hey, I'm not so sure I want this kind of relationship, either. Sometimes I wish I had a little more space, so I'd have time to think about whether I really want us to keep going the way we are, moving steadily toward . . . I mean, where are we going? Are we just going to keep seeing each other at this level of intimacy? Are we heading toward marriage? Toward children? Toward a lifetime together? Am I ready for that level of commitment? Do I really even know this person?"

And Roger is thinking: ". . . so that means it was . . . let's see . . February when we started going out, which was right after I had the car at the dealer's, which means . . . lemme check the odometer . . . Whoa! I am way overdue for an oil change here."

And Elaine is thinking: "He's upset. I can see it on his face. Maybe I'm reading this completely wrong. Maybe he wants more from our relationship, more intimacy, more commitment; maybe he has sensed -- even before I sensed it -- that I was feeling some reservations. Yes, I bet that's it. That's why he's so reluctant to say anything about his own feelings. He's afraid of being rejected."

And Roger is thinking: "And I'm gonna have them look at the transmission again. I don't care what those morons say, it's still not shifting right."

And Elaine is thinking: "He's angry. And I don't blame him. I'd be angry, too. I feel so guilty, putting him through this, but I can't help the way I feel. I'm just not sure."

And Roger is thinking: "They'll probably say it's only a 90- day warranty. That's exactly what they're gonna say, the scumballs."

And Elaine is thinking: "maybe I'm just too idealistic, waiting for a knight to come riding up on his white horse, when I'm sitting right next to a perfectly good person, a person I enjoy being with, a person I truly do care about, a person who seems to truly care about me. A person who is in pain because of my self-centered, schoolgirl romantic fantasy."

And Roger is thinking: "Warranty? They want a warranty? I'll give them a warranty. I'll take their warranty and stick it right up their ..."

''Roger,'' Elaine says aloud.

''What?'' says Roger, startled.

''Please don't torture yourself like this,'' she says, her eyes beginning to brim with tears. ''Maybe I should never have . . Oh, I feel so.....''

(She breaks down, sobbing.)

''What?'' says Roger.

''I'm such a fool,'' Elaine sobs. ''I mean, I know there's no knight. I really know that. It's silly. There's no knight, and there's no horse.''

''There's no horse?'' says Roger.

''You think I'm a fool, don't you?'' Elaine says.

''No!'' says Roger, glad to finally know the correct answer.

''It's just that . . . It's that I . . . I need some time,'' Elaine says.

(There is a 15-second pause while Roger, thinking as fast as he can, tries to come up with a safe response. Finally he comes up with one that he thinks might work.)

''Yes,'' he says.

(Elaine, deeply moved, touches his hand.)

''Oh, Roger, do you really feel that way?'' she says.

'What way?'' says Roger.

"That way about time,'' says Elaine.

''Oh,'' says Roger. ''Yes.''

(Elaine turns to face him and gazes deeply into his eyes, causing him to become very nervous about what she might say next. At last she speaks.)

''Thank you, Roger,'' she says.

''Thank you,'' says Roger.

Then he takes her home, and she lies on her bed, a conflicted, tortured soul, and weeps until dawn, whereas when Roger gets back to his place, he opens a bag of Doritos, turns on the TV, and immediately becomes deeply involved in a rerun of a tennis match between two Czechoslovakians he never heard of. A tiny voice in the far recesses of his mind tells him that something major was going on back there in the car, but he is pretty sure there is no way he would ever understand what, and so he figures it's better if he doesn't think about it.

The next day Elaine will call her closest friend, or perhaps two of them, and they will talk about this situation for six straight hours. In painstaking detail, they will analyze everything she said and everything he said, going over it time and time again, exploring every word, expression, and gesture for nuances of meaning, considering every possible ramification. They will continue to discuss this subject, off and on, for weeks, maybe months, never reaching any definite conclusions, but never getting bored with it, either.

Meanwhile, Roger, while playing racquetball one day with a mutual friend of his and Elaine's, will pause just before serving, and say:

"Norm, did Elaine ever own a horse?''

Byron said:

There's a difference between stupid and ignorant. My comments that you mention are attributable to ignornace and I think men are highly ignorant. The inarticulateness, lack of multi-tasking, not considering or handling multiple concepts and being needy brats are things they can change but choose not to IMO. The dozen subjects in under 5 minutes was a remark about myself and other than me mum, I don't know too many women who can do that.

If men were stupid, all of my comments/observations about them would be rooted in their biology and they wouldn't be able to help it if they tried.


Numerous shortcomings of women? Hmm let's see:


1. Perpetual insecurity often masked as self-grandiosity
2. Jealous
3. Catty
4. Verbose
5. Highly and continuously stressed (although i think this is biological or even hormonal)
6. lack appreciation and respect for their own kind.

the last statement irks me to no end. I really think we are our own worst enemy and don't stick up for one another and are in constant competition with each other. I don't know if its always been this way or if this is cultural or even some weird evolutionary joke. Other female mammals seem to be harmonious but human females? hell to the naw. I still love my sex tho. Fuckin' bitches tho they may be.

Graycap23 said:

Absolutely.

DesireeNevermind said:

Since ignorance is "the absence of knowledge" I don't think things like an inability to talk in complete sentences or being unable to multi-task can be chalked up to ignorance lol...unless you're claiming that men do not have the knowledge of how to form complete sentences. (or how to do more than one thing at a time, which if you've ever run a business or a corporation, both definitely require the ability to multi-task).




So you're saying men are merely ignorant and lazy lol...ah, much better.




You mentioned a lot of emotional aspect of women on your list of "shortcomings" (insecure, catty, jealous, highly stressed...)...From my experience it's those who are more unpredictable emotionally that are harder to "figure out" and appear more complicated.

So men are ignorant and lazy, and women are emotional wrecks lol ...

Byron said:

Ah we agree on something. the rest be potatoes/potatos and semantics .

Byron said:

Exactly.

Byron said:

OMG - Byron said FUCK!

1sexymf said:

Easy chica!!! Um...did you get by any chance get your tank filled or is your gas light still on???

1sexymf said:

Why does everyone keep being shocked when I say that?

JustErin said:

I said "fuck"

Byron said:

you must be a master refrainer when it comes to cursing.

DesireeNevermind said:

I must be ...It's like their moms said the "f" word lol.

Byron said:

You said it again; damn that sounded sexy...

1sexymf said:

And I just typed it lol

Byron said:

Mmmm, u let your fingers do the talking....

Men can be complicated, but not always

Women.

ocean said:

It was a generalisation!