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Judge rules family can't refuse chemo for boy MINNEAPOLIS – A Minnesota judge ruled Friday that a 13-year-old cancer patient must be evaluated by a doctor to determine if the boy would benefit from restarting chemotherapy over his parents' objections.
In a 58-page ruling, Brown County District Judge John Rodenberg found that Daniel Hauser has been "medically neglected" by his parents, Colleen and Anthony Hauser, and was in need of child protection services. While he allowed Daniel to stay with his parents, the judge gave the Hausers until Tuesday to get an updated chest X-ray for their son and select an oncologist. If the evaluation shows the cancer had advanced to a point where chemotherapy and radiation would no longer help, the judge said, he would not order the boy to undergo treatment. However, he said, if chemotherapy is ordered and the family still refuses, Daniel will be placed in temporary custody. The judge wrote that Daniel has only a "rudimentary understanding at best of the risks and benefits of chemotherapy. ... he does not believe he is ill currently. The fact is that he is very ill currently." It was unclear how the medicine would be administered if the boy fights it. Dr. Bruce Bostrom, a pediatric oncologist at Children's Hospitals and Clinics of Minnesota, said last week he would have a hard time forcing Daniel to take the medicine. Bostrom said Friday his hospital has psychologists, child life specialists and other resources to help ease Daniel's fears. He also said an ethics committee would meet next week to talk about all the scenarios doctors may encounter. Daniel's court-appointed attorney, Philip Elbert, called the decision unfortunate. "I feel it's a blow to families," he said. "It marginalizes the decisions that parents face every day in regard to their children's medical care. It really affirms the role that big government is better at making our decisions for us." Elbert said he hadn't spoken to his client yet. The phone line at the Hauser home in Sleepy Eye in southwestern Minnesota had a busy signal Friday. The parents' attorney had no immediate comment but planned to issue a statement. Daniel was diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma and stopped chemotherapy in February after a single treatment. He and his parents opted instead for "alternative medicines" based on their religious beliefs. Child protection workers accused Daniel's parents of medical neglect; but in court, his mother insisted the boy wouldn't submit to chemotherapy for religious reasons and she said she wouldn't comply if the court orders it. Doctors have said Daniel's cancer had up to a 90 percent chance of being cured with chemotherapy and radiation. Without those treatments, doctors said his chances of survival are 5 percent. Daniel's parents have been supporting what they say is their son's decision to treat the disease with nutritional supplements and other alternative treatments favored by the Nemenhah Band. The Missouri-based religious group believes in natural healing methods advocated by some American Indians. After the first chemotherapy treatment, the family said they wanted a second opinion, said Bostrom, a pediatric oncologist who recommended Daniel undergo chemotherapy and radiation. They later informed him that Daniel would not undergo any more chemotherapy. Bostrom said Daniel's tumor shrunk after the first chemotherapy session, but X-rays show it has grown since he stopped the chemotherapy. "My son is not in any medical danger at this point," Colleen Hauser testified at a court hearing last week. She also testified that Daniel is a medicine man and elder in the Nemenhah Band. The family's attorney, Calvin Johnson, said Daniel made the decision himself to refuse chemotherapy, but Brown County said he did not have an understanding of what it meant to be a medicine man or an elder. Court filings also indicated Daniel has a learning disability and can't read. The Hausers have eight children. Colleen Hauser told the New Ulm Journal newspaper that the family's Catholicism and adherence to the Nemenhah Band are not in conflict, and that she has used natural remedies to treat illness. Nemenhah was founded in the 1990s by Philip Cloudpiler Landis, who said Thursday he once served four months in prison in Idaho for fraud related to advocating natural remedies. Landis said he founded the faith after facing his diagnosis of a cancer similar to Daniel Hauser. He said he treated it with diet choices, visits to a sweat lodge and other natural remedies. | |
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The situation is heartbreaking.
The judge seems sound though. He's ordering an evaluation of the case. If it's not going to help he won't demand further treatment. As a parent I don't want decisions about my child taken out of my control, but also as a parent, I don't want to see a child not get care that could be life saving. I'm firmly planted in denial | |
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Nothinbutjoy said: The situation is heartbreaking.
The judge seems sound though. He's ordering an evaluation of the case. If it's not going to help he won't demand further treatment. As a parent I don't want decisions about my child taken out of my control, but also as a parent, I don't want to see a child not get care that could be life saving. There are limits of parental control. Parents aren't allowed to legally abuse their child without the state having the ability to step in. I see this no differently than that. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Nothinbutjoy said: The situation is heartbreaking.
The judge seems sound though. He's ordering an evaluation of the case. If it's not going to help he won't demand further treatment. As a parent I don't want decisions about my child taken out of my control, but also as a parent, I don't want to see a child not get care that could be life saving. There are limits of parental control. Parents aren't allowed to legally abuse their child without the state having the ability to step in. I see this no differently than that. I see what you're saying. I'm firmly planted in denial | |
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Nothinbutjoy said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: There are limits of parental control. Parents aren't allowed to legally abuse their child without the state having the ability to step in. I see this no differently than that. I see what you're saying. And I believe in religious freedom BUT I am someone who no longer believes the way I was raised to believe. To think my parents forced death on me for something I won't believe in in the future. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SCNDLS said: MINNEAPOLIS – A Minnesota judge ruled Friday that a 13-year-old cancer patient must be evaluated by a doctor to determine if the boy would benefit from restarting chemotherapy over his parents' objections.
In a 58-page ruling, Brown County District Judge John Rodenberg found that Daniel Hauser has been "medically neglected" by his parents, Colleen and Anthony Hauser, and was in need of child protection services. While he allowed Daniel to stay with his parents, the judge gave the Hausers until Tuesday to get an updated chest X-ray for their son and select an oncologist. If the evaluation shows the cancer had advanced to a point where chemotherapy and radiation would no longer help, the judge said, he would not order the boy to undergo treatment. However, he said, if chemotherapy is ordered and the family still refuses, Daniel will be placed in temporary custody. The judge wrote that Daniel has only a "rudimentary understanding at best of the risks and benefits of chemotherapy. ... he does not believe he is ill currently. The fact is that he is very ill currently." It was unclear how the medicine would be administered if the boy fights it. Dr. Bruce Bostrom, a pediatric oncologist at Children's Hospitals and Clinics of Minnesota, said last week he would have a hard time forcing Daniel to take the medicine. Bostrom said Friday his hospital has psychologists, child life specialists and other resources to help ease Daniel's fears. He also said an ethics committee would meet next week to talk about all the scenarios doctors may encounter. Daniel's court-appointed attorney, Philip Elbert, called the decision unfortunate. "I feel it's a blow to families," he said. "It marginalizes the decisions that parents face every day in regard to their children's medical care. It really affirms the role that big government is better at making our decisions for us." Elbert said he hadn't spoken to his client yet. The phone line at the Hauser home in Sleepy Eye in southwestern Minnesota had a busy signal Friday. The parents' attorney had no immediate comment but planned to issue a statement. Daniel was diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma and stopped chemotherapy in February after a single treatment. He and his parents opted instead for "alternative medicines" based on their religious beliefs. Child protection workers accused Daniel's parents of medical neglect; but in court, his mother insisted the boy wouldn't submit to chemotherapy for religious reasons and she said she wouldn't comply if the court orders it. Doctors have said Daniel's cancer had up to a 90 percent chance of being cured with chemotherapy and radiation. Without those treatments, doctors said his chances of survival are 5 percent. Daniel's parents have been supporting what they say is their son's decision to treat the disease with nutritional supplements and other alternative treatments favored by the Nemenhah Band. The Missouri-based religious group believes in natural healing methods advocated by some American Indians. After the first chemotherapy treatment, the family said they wanted a second opinion, said Bostrom, a pediatric oncologist who recommended Daniel undergo chemotherapy and radiation. They later informed him that Daniel would not undergo any more chemotherapy. Bostrom said Daniel's tumor shrunk after the first chemotherapy session, but X-rays show it has grown since he stopped the chemotherapy. "My son is not in any medical danger at this point," Colleen Hauser testified at a court hearing last week. She also testified that Daniel is a medicine man and elder in the Nemenhah Band. The family's attorney, Calvin Johnson, said Daniel made the decision himself to refuse chemotherapy, but Brown County said he did not have an understanding of what it meant to be a medicine man or an elder. Court filings also indicated Daniel has a learning disability and can't read. The Hausers have eight children. Colleen Hauser told the New Ulm Journal newspaper that the family's Catholicism and adherence to the Nemenhah Band are not in conflict, and that she has used natural remedies to treat illness. Nemenhah was founded in the 1990s by Philip Cloudpiler Landis, who said Thursday he once served four months in prison in Idaho for fraud related to advocating natural remedies. Landis said he founded the faith after facing his diagnosis of a cancer similar to Daniel Hauser. He said he treated it with diet choices, visits to a sweat lodge and other natural remedies. So I wonder if they are already administering this natural treatment on him? I know that there are other ways to treat cancer naturally that work. If they are, then why the court order? It's not like they are not treating it... | |
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wildgoldenhoney said: So I wonder if they are already administering this natural treatment on him? I know that there are other ways to treat cancer naturally that work. If they are, then why the court order? It's not like they are not treating it... Sadly, the child has a highly curable form of cancer (Hodgkins lymphoma) and his treatments were going well. It's insane that they're abandoning a treatment that has a 90% cure rate for something unproven. I dont disagree with alternative treatments ALONG with traditional medical treatments (especially ones with a proven high cure rate), or spiritual interventions that are desired, but to go to alternative treatments when the ones being used are working doesn't seem to make any sense. Forget parental rights. Parents don't have rights as if they own their children like a dog or a house that they can sell. Parents have DUTIES and obligations to their children because they brought them into the world. A duty to give them love, security, protect their health, give them self esteem, and help them reach their potential. Isn't it strange that Parental "RIGHTS" are only ever invoked when it involves wasting a young life for the consciences of the deluded parent? [Edited 5/16/09 8:48am] "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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shellyevon said: wildgoldenhoney said: So I wonder if they are already administering this natural treatment on him? I know that there are other ways to treat cancer naturally that work. If they are, then why the court order? It's not like they are not treating it... Sadly, the child has a highly curable form of cancer (Hodgkins lymphoma) and his treatments were going well. It's insane that they're abandoning a treatment that has a 90% cure rate for something unproven. I dont disagree with alternative treatments ALONG with traditional medical treatments (especially ones with a proven high cure rate), or spiritual interventions that are desired, but to go to alternative treatments when the ones being used are working doesn't seem to make any sense. Forget parental rights. Parents don't have rights as if they own their children like a dog or a house that they can sell. Parents have DUTIES and obligations to their children because they brought them into the world. A duty to give them love, security, protect their health, give them self esteem, and help them reach their potential. Isn't it strange that Parental "RIGHTS" are only ever invoked when it involves wasting a young life for the consciences of the deluded parent? [Edited 5/16/09 8:48am] Co-sign everything you said. Parental "rights" should never mean that a child should have to do because of their parents' beliefs. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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shellyevon said: wildgoldenhoney said: So I wonder if they are already administering this natural treatment on him? I know that there are other ways to treat cancer naturally that work. If they are, then why the court order? It's not like they are not treating it... Sadly, the child has a highly curable form of cancer (Hodgkins lymphoma) and his treatments were going well. It's insane that they're abandoning a treatment that has a 90% cure rate for something unproven. I dont disagree with alternative treatments ALONG with traditional medical treatments (especially ones with a proven high cure rate), or spiritual interventions that are desired, but to go to alternative treatments when the ones being used are working doesn't seem to make any sense. Forget parental rights. Parents don't have rights as if they own their children like a dog or a house that they can sell. Parents have DUTIES and obligations to their children because they brought them into the world. A duty to give them love, security, protect their health, give them self esteem, and help them reach their potential. Isn't it strange that Parental "RIGHTS" are only ever invoked when it involves wasting a young life for the consciences of the deluded parent? [Edited 5/16/09 8:48am] There are other proven forms of treatment. http://prince.org/msg/100/279110 And I try to not assume that just because they seek out an alternative form of treatment, that they don't care for the well-being of their child. If you love your child, surely you would walk each avenue examining everything that will help. | |
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wildgoldenhoney said: shellyevon said: Sadly, the child has a highly curable form of cancer (Hodgkins lymphoma) and his treatments were going well. It's insane that they're abandoning a treatment that has a 90% cure rate for something unproven. I dont disagree with alternative treatments ALONG with traditional medical treatments (especially ones with a proven high cure rate), or spiritual interventions that are desired, but to go to alternative treatments when the ones being used are working doesn't seem to make any sense. Forget parental rights. Parents don't have rights as if they own their children like a dog or a house that they can sell. Parents have DUTIES and obligations to their children because they brought them into the world. A duty to give them love, security, protect their health, give them self esteem, and help them reach their potential. Isn't it strange that Parental "RIGHTS" are only ever invoked when it involves wasting a young life for the consciences of the deluded parent? [Edited 5/16/09 8:48am] There are other proven forms of treatment. http://prince.org/msg/100/279110 And I try to not assume that just because they seek out an alternative form of treatment, that they don't care for the well-being of their child. If you love your child, surely you would walk each avenue examining everything that will help. Doctors have said Daniel's cancer had up to a 90 percent chance of being cured with chemotherapy and radiation. Without those treatments, doctors said his chances of survival are 5 percent. Maybe the alternatives work, but the parents don't have any solid basis for their objections in this particular case. Religious rights are important but they do not supercede a child's right to medical care. It cannot be guaranteed the child will stay in the religion when he grows up. The important thing is to give him a chance to grow up. I f the parents have found a truly viable alternative, the court will allow it. [Edited 5/16/09 22:34pm] "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before | |
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