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X-Men Origins: Wolverine *SPOILERS*

Probably spoilers, anyway. I didn't see another thread, so....


So did anyone see it? Just got back.

I have 3 major gripes.

First, the CGI claws are really shit. They should have spent a little extra money in a few of the scenes where they are prominently featured as focal points to make them more real.

Second, dialogue was kind of crap.

Third... how the hell are you going to make a movie called "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" and then have his escape from the Weapon X compound after the adamantium bonding process last all of 5 seconds? And I don't even remember him killing anyone at that point. Really, is there ANY other reason to make this movie other than THAT scene? And then to race through it and gloss over it like that? Come on!


Otherwise, it was alright. A mixed back, much the same as the 3rd X-Men movie. Doesn't really live up to his potential, but the fanboy wank moments still make me giddy.

Is it just me, or is the favorite scene the part when all the kids get out and Professor X finds them? touched



Oh, and as for the eye candy, there was a lot of sexiness in this movie. Hugh Jackman is hotter than ever. I swear I got a boner a few times.

I'm surprised they didn't trot out Ryan Reynolds' fine ass and put his body on display more. Well, before they turned him into an unrecognizable mutilated freak,

Oh, and Liev Schriber got buff. And sexy. How'd that happen?
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Reply #1 posted 05/01/09 10:24pm

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a few positive points...


streamlining Wolverine's continuity from the complete mess they've made of it in the last 10-15 years was nice.

they really didn't hold back much on giving people what they came for, which is lots of Wolverine/Sabretooth fight scenes.

Gambit wasn't annoying.

the spinning decapitated head destroying the nuclear reactor with optic blasts was kind of a neat touch.

Will.I.Am didn't suck.



oh, and i guess a few negative points too:

i know he was kind of there for comic relief, but the part with Blob was stupid and i'm not sure he translated well to the screen.

am i the only person that missed the part, whenever it was, that they decided to start calling Wolverine "Logan" for the rest of the movie, instead of James/Jimmy?
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Reply #2 posted 05/01/09 10:31pm

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I dunno, I liked it.

To me, it was not quite as good as X2, but it was a little better than X3.


I really really really wish they didn't completely fuck Deadpool up tho disbelief
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Reply #3 posted 05/01/09 10:34pm

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errant said:

Probably spoilers, anyway. I didn't see another thread, so....


So did anyone see it? Just got back.

I have 3 major gripes.

First, the CGI claws are really shit. They should have spent a little extra money in a few of the scenes where they are prominently featured as focal points to make them more real.

Second, dialogue was kind of crap.

Third... how the hell are you going to make a movie called "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" and then have his escape from the Weapon X compound after the adamantium bonding process last all of 5 seconds? And I don't even remember him killing anyone at that point. Really, is there ANY other reason to make this movie other than THAT scene? And then to race through it and gloss over it like that? Come on!


Otherwise, it was alright. A mixed back, much the same as the 3rd X-Men movie. Doesn't really live up to his potential, but the fanboy wank moments still make me giddy.

Is it just me, or is the favorite scene the part when all the kids get out and Professor X finds them? touched



Oh, and as for the eye candy, there was a lot of sexiness in this movie. Hugh Jackman is hotter than ever. I swear I got a boner a few times.

I'm surprised they didn't trot out Ryan Reynolds' fine ass and put his body on display more. Well, before they turned him into an unrecognizable mutilated freak,

Oh, and Liev Schriber got buff. And sexy. How'd that happen?



other than the boner part, i agree 100% with all that stuff you wrote.
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Reply #4 posted 05/01/09 10:39pm

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Nikademus said:

I dunno, I liked it.

To me, it was not quite as good as X2, but it was a little better than X3.


I really really really wish they didn't completely fuck Deadpool up tho disbelief



the thing about X3 is that while i don't particularly care for that movie (why'd they bother with Dark Phoenix if they were just going to let it lay there)... it does have that scene at Jean Grey's house where she kills Xavier. that one is a real stunner and i don't think anything else in any of the X-Men movies has (or can) top it. (except for maybe the giddiness that the White House scene with Nightcrawler in X2 gives me)
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Reply #5 posted 05/01/09 10:53pm

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I liked it, thought Hugh and Liev did great jobs. But I felt the movie was rather predictable, could see the plot twists a mile away.
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Reply #6 posted 05/01/09 10:55pm

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errant said:

Nikademus said:

I dunno, I liked it.

To me, it was not quite as good as X2, but it was a little better than X3.


I really really really wish they didn't completely fuck Deadpool up tho disbelief



the thing about X3 is that while i don't particularly care for that movie (why'd they bother with Dark Phoenix if they were just going to let it lay there)... it does have that scene at Jean Grey's house where she kills Xavier. that one is a real stunner and i don't think anything else in any of the X-Men movies has (or can) top it. (except for maybe the giddiness that the White House scene with Nightcrawler in X2 gives me)


yeah...Deadpool is the Wolverine movie's Jean Grey, a totally wasted opportunity.

And I do agree, X3 had some good scenes. It's just that when compared to the previous 2 films, it's just so obvious that X3 could have been so much better than it was. It was the same thing with Spiderman 3 come to think of it.
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Reply #7 posted 05/01/09 10:56pm

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I think I generally liked it too. Though I have high expectations for anything X-Men related, being an uber-fan of the comics, so I came away slightly disappointed.

But I suppose those high expectations really should have been at least a little deflated after reading the last 20 years worth of the comics themselves. confused
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Reply #8 posted 05/01/09 10:58pm

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Nikademus said:

errant said:




the thing about X3 is that while i don't particularly care for that movie (why'd they bother with Dark Phoenix if they were just going to let it lay there)... it does have that scene at Jean Grey's house where she kills Xavier. that one is a real stunner and i don't think anything else in any of the X-Men movies has (or can) top it. (except for maybe the giddiness that the White House scene with Nightcrawler in X2 gives me)


yeah...Deadpool is the Wolverine movie's Jean Grey, a totally wasted opportunity.

And I do agree, X3 had some good scenes. It's just that when compared to the previous 2 films, it's just so obvious that X3 could have been so much better than it was. It was the same thing with Spiderman 3 come to think of it.



i actively hated Spider-man 3 as i was watching it. it really pissed me of, considering that Spider-man 2 might actually be my all-time favorite superhero movie.


all i can say is thank god there was no mention of Romulus in this movie. woot! it gets bonus points just for that.
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as for Deadpool, you know... they made a few offhand comments about him not shutting up. but he only had like 3 lines in the whole movie. if that.

and they did kind of fuck him up. he's the kind of character who would work well in a movie of his own, a dark comedy about crazed vigilante-ism, but not now.

not even sure why they bothered to use him in this way, except that he's a character with a Weapon X connection. but then, they didn't use Maverick of Fantomex, so big deal.
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Reply #10 posted 05/02/09 6:39am

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i am glad Gambit was in it and my favourite part was when Professor X turned
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what i would love is another X-Men movie with a storyline from where Professor X find them onwards they could create a good storyline without having to worry about which 'star' has the most scenes/lines etc (didnt see any particularly famous actor/actesses amongst the mutants that escaped) and have it focus on less known characters such as Gambit or Jubilee.
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Reply #11 posted 05/02/09 6:42am

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Alas poor Deadpool they fucked you up. I thought the movie was OK. Jackman was good in it. I wish the X-Men franchise could be made by the Marvel Studios to really do it justice.
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Reply #12 posted 05/02/09 7:15am

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I thought it was an okay movie. Nothing too spectacular. biggrin

We should have seen more naked Wolverine. I mean, the camera should have been CARESSING Hugh's gorgeous body! razz

Gambit didn't have a french accent. mad
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Reply #13 posted 05/02/09 7:20am

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make sure to wait for after the credits run, small clip leaving things alil open
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scififilmnerd said:

I thought it was an okay movie. Nothing too spectacular. biggrin

We should have seen more naked Wolverine. I mean, the camera should have been CARESSING Hugh's gorgeous body! razz

Gambit didn't have a french accent. mad



Gambit doesn'thave a French accent. He has a Creole accent. The actor made an attempt. Occasionally. lol
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Mauve said:

make sure to wait for after the credits run, small clip leaving things alil open



oh hell. i figured. i didn't stay. and i'm not paying to see it again. what is it? there's a spoiler warning in the title of this thread, so go ahead and share.
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Reply #16 posted 05/02/09 8:09am

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errant said:

Nikademus said:

I dunno, I liked it.

To me, it was not quite as good as X2, but it was a little better than X3.


I really really really wish they didn't completely fuck Deadpool up tho disbelief



the thing about X3 is that while i don't particularly care for that movie (why'd they bother with Dark Phoenix if they were just going to let it lay there)... it does have that scene at Jean Grey's house where she kills Xavier. that one is a real stunner and i don't think anything else in any of the X-Men movies has (or can) top it. (except for maybe the giddiness that the White House scene with Nightcrawler in X2 gives me)

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errant said:




the thing about X3 is that while i don't particularly care for that movie (why'd they bother with Dark Phoenix if they were just going to let it lay there)... it does have that scene at Jean Grey's house where she kills Xavier. that one is a real stunner and i don't think anything else in any of the X-Men movies has (or can) top it. (except for maybe the giddiness that the White House scene with Nightcrawler in X2 gives me)

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nod that and seeing Spider-man web-slinging through New York for the first time had me on the verge of tears of joy. redface
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Reply #18 posted 05/02/09 11:44am

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errant said:

Mauve said:

make sure to wait for after the credits run, small clip leaving things alil open



oh hell. i figured. i didn't stay. and i'm not paying to see it again. what is it? there's a spoiler warning in the title of this thread, so go ahead and share.


The endings are on youtube, so you can still see 'em nod
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Reply #19 posted 05/02/09 11:59am

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Generally I liked it, but it wasn't anything spectacular.

The movie, like the X movies, suffered from too many underdeveloped secondary characters, even to the point of not making certain characters names clear to the audience. I know the storylines function as ensemble pieces, but without the room comics allow to elaborate on every aspect this and the X trilogy should have streamlined its cast more.

Will.I.Am was better than expected.

They made it pointedly clear that Wolverine is Canadian, something I honestly was not expecting. woot! canada

The actor who plays Gambit was born in the city I lived in for 17 years. Cool. smile
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as for Deadpool, you know... they made a few offhand comments about him not shutting up. but he only had like 3 lines in the whole movie. if that.

and they did kind of fuck him up. he's the kind of character who would work well in a movie of his own, a dark comedy about crazed vigilante-ism, but not now.

not even sure why they bothered to use him in this way, except that he's a character with a Weapon X connection. but then, they didn't use Maverick of Fantomex, so big deal.



Actually Maverick WAS in the movie, he was Agent Zero.

I did not know this untill I looked it up...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Zero
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Reply #21 posted 05/02/09 2:40pm

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I thought it was a great combination of action and storytelling although I can agree with Meow about the character names because I'm more familiar with the TV Xmen than the comic books. I have to rely on my sons to fill in the gaps for me.

I had a lot of favorite scenes. Professor X saving the kids of course, the bar fight scene, Hugh Jackman with no clothes on, (hot diggity damn, I wanted to bite him!), the helicopter chase, and best of all...Gambit! I LOVE Gambit! woot!

(shut up Threadbare, lol)

My least favorite was the Will.I.AM segment. Sorry, but I thought his acting was dreadful and the fat suit they had on whatshisname looked too cartoonish.

How comes everybody's saying they screwed up Deadpool???
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I had a lot of favorite scenes. Professor X saving the kids of course, the bar fight scene, Hugh Jackman with no clothes on, (hot diggity damn, I wanted to bite him!), the helicopter chase, and best of all...Gambit! I LOVE Gambit! woot!

(shut up Threadbare, lol)


I went with an old friend and, right after the scene where he abandoned Victor and the gang, she turned to me and said:
"That Wolverine is just so fine... You hear me???"

I thought Kayla (sp?) was absolutely gorgeous, which points to problematic casting. Men typically don't have trouble bending to the will of beautiful women.

Oh, and babynoz... way to get into the character... rolleyes
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babynoz said:



I had a lot of favorite scenes. Professor X saving the kids of course, the bar fight scene, Hugh Jackman with no clothes on, (hot diggity damn, I wanted to bite him!), the helicopter chase, and best of all...Gambit! I LOVE Gambit! woot!

(shut up Threadbare, lol)


I went with an old friend and, right after the scene where he abandoned Victor and the gang, she turned to me and said:
"That Wolverine is just so fine... You hear me???"

I thought Kayla (sp?) was absolutely gorgeous, which points to problematic casting. Men typically don't have trouble bending to the will of beautiful women.

Oh, and babynoz... way to get into the character... rolleyes




I was just giving you a little pokey-poke because you don't like Gambit, stickpoke

How would you have portrayed Kayla???
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Reply #24 posted 05/02/09 3:28pm

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I went with an old friend and, right after the scene where he abandoned Victor and the gang, she turned to me and said:
"That Wolverine is just so fine... You hear me???"

I thought Kayla (sp?) was absolutely gorgeous, which points to problematic casting. Men typically don't have trouble bending to the will of beautiful women.

Oh, and babynoz... way to get into the character... rolleyes




I was just giving you a little pokey-poke because you don't like Gambit, stickpoke

How would you have portrayed Kayla???


He's a step above Plunger Man and other dubious superheroes. The movie made the charged-card thing a whole lot fiercer than I expected. lol

Oh, and Kayla?


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babynoz said:





I was just giving you a little pokey-poke because you don't like Gambit, stickpoke

How would you have portrayed Kayla???


He's a step above Plunger Man and other dubious superheroes. The movie made the charged-card thing a whole lot fiercer than I expected. lol

Oh, and Kayla?


[Edited 5/2/09 15:30pm]


Jaysus! You got some 'splainin to do on that one bro, eek .

Gambit's card thingie was cool as hell even though I am biased. biggrin
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How comes everybody's saying they screwed up Deadpool???



Because THIS is Deadpool...




The film version is NOTHING LIKE HIM AT ALL. There was no reason whatsoever for what they did to him in the movie, it made no sense. They should have just made a new character.
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Reply #27 posted 05/02/09 7:32pm

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Nikademus said:

babynoz said:


How comes everybody's saying they screwed up Deadpool???



Because THIS is Deadpool...




The film version is NOTHING LIKE HIM AT ALL. There was no reason whatsoever for what they did to him in the movie, it made no sense. They should have just made a new character.


Thanks for answering my question!

I was thinking that maybe they were trying to portray Deadpool in the early stages of his creation or something, but my son says Deadpool and Weapon XI should have been 2 separate characters.

Man, I gotta do a better job of keeping up with this stuff. lol
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Reply #28 posted 05/02/09 8:12pm

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It was just ok for me shrug I have to agree with the OP. some of the more essential scenes could have been played out longer.

I'm pleased they finally got around to adding Gambit love I'm not the biggest X-Men fan (I was always more into Batman boxed) but he was always my fave. nod
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It was just ok for me shrug I have to agree with the OP. some of the more essential scenes could have been played out longer.

I'm pleased they finally got around to adding Gambit love I'm not the biggest X-Men fan (I was always more into Batman boxed) but he was always my fave. nod
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Me too. I dig Gambit, even though he really is kind of lame power-wise. The dude was a blatant attempt at a sexually appealing male superhero -a rare thing- and even in the 90's cartoon, it worked. I've got no complaints. razz
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