MIGUELGOMEZ said:

you must be dysexlick or something

Imago said:

I think you've just solved the mystery of the "hiss"...

rushing07 said:

I would think there were easier ways to measure that 3.5k temperature reading.

Imago said:

RenHoek said:

Oh Ren,
You are always good for supporting my shit threads.

I did research the subject at hand, so I can say that' I'm not guilty of lying this time--just plagiarism.

Imago said:

research = google/wiki

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In 1965, Arno Penzias and Robert Woodrow Wilson had built a Dicke radiometer that they intended to use for radio astronomy and satellite communication experiments.

Their equipment kept picking up an excess 3.5k temperature reading that they could not account for.

Penzias and Wilson were fucking pissed, yall. (ok, maybe not pissed, but they were definitely concerned.) They did what they could to try and snuff out this 'noise'.
Just think about it this way: Imagine watching Gavin & Stacey on BBC and constantly hearing a low level hiss through the reception on the T.V. you paid way too much money for that some third world bloke worked way too many hours assembling, but still can't feed his family). Wouldn't you want to figure out what the source of it was, and how to get rid of it? Who wants to hear a low level hiss over Nessa (the main character in the show) and her nuggets of comedic wisdom? Nope. nobody--the noise needed to be eliminated.


soooo.....

They built and rebuilt parts. Insulated and re-insulated parts. Still the 'hiss' continued. Still the signal was ever-present. Let me tell you, those motherfuckers were perplexed! CONFUSED as shit!

The noise would not stop. It was like one of ocean's 'question' threads--always there, but no one could figure out why, bless her heart

Finally, they made a short phone call to some Princeton blokes about this interference that they were trying to get rid of. Of course, the Princeton blokes famously quipped, "Boys, we've been scooped."

You see, 10 miles down the road, in Princeton, some motherfuckers named George Gamow, Ralph Alpher and Robert Herman were trying to prove the theory of the "Big Bang", which claims that the Universe was born from a tiny dot in the nothingness and is still expanding today. Moreover, they had predicted that the very first remnants of the "big bang" would reach the earth in the form of microwave background radiation. They had been searching for this radiation for several years.

Penzias and Wilson, a couple of radio astronomers, trying to find out how to reduce 'interference' on their equipment, had discovered the afterbirth of a big, messy, super-violent, octo-mom dimensional beginning to the Universe, and went on the receive the 1978 Nobel Prize in Physics.

When the big bang happened, it started with an infinitely small 'singularity' where all the contents of our current Universe was squeezed into a space so infinitely tiny, we can't even begin to imagine the scale or lack there of. Think of something unbelievably tiny--say, mdiver's brain. Then reduce that even more. When the expansion began, within 2 seconds, the Universe was several billion billion billion miles across and expanding faster than the speed of light. The residue left over from that period of time was the 3.5k excess temperature that the radio telescopes Penzias and Wilson were trying to ignore.



Is there a cosmic noise in your life that you've been repressing? Is there something that's been nagging at your big, juicy, telescope that you have been trying to snuff out? Is there an obvious background radiation that you see before your eyes that you just haven't been receptive to?

Or perhaps someone close to you?


The afterbirth of the Universe in you is ready for you to sip. Open up and say 'ahhh', you skanks.



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I love these threads!

what surrounded the initial material which exploded?...was it just space with no material in it?...how far does it reach, and if it has a border, what is containing it?...if it has no borders, it just goes on to infinity, and the limitlessness of it all is beyond comprehension.

I wonder if MDiver got the personal reference contained in the original article.

BlackAdder7 said:

There was no emptiness that surrounded it, which is what makes it difficult for scientists to explain. The singularity was a true singularity--nothing existed outside of it...even nothingness as we know it would not have existed outside of it.

Space, the dimensions we know of, gravity, everything--all existed within the singularity and none of these things would have made any sense outside of the singularity. At least this is the current explanation.


Although it is believed that our Universe is a gigantic 'curved' Universe (the closest way to describe it is a 'bubble' which isn't even accurate), so far we've looked back 13.x billion years and have not been able to find a curve. It appears that space so far as we've been able to measure is flat. The reason why this is perplexing is if you think of us as being at the center of a baloon, and then measuring the distances of one side of a baloon, then the distance of another part of the baloon (a few inches to the right or so), then somewhere in between, we'd notice that the surface of the baloon was 'curved'. This would mean to us that we're on the inside of some type of round 'bubble'.
When we do this with space, so far as we can tell, we get flatness. This means the Universe goes on forever. If it goes on forever, this means that just by sheer numbers, there are infinite instances of 'us' as we know it, and infinit variants of 'us' in inifnite timelines, etc. etc. just by sheer numbers.

Michiu (sp?) Kocku(sp?) believes that space is curved but we're not able to detect it on our scale. He reckons it to being like standing on the surface of the earth if you're an insect or something, and trying to see the curvature of the earth. Not likely,

Imago said:

I'm trying to get through A BRIEF HISTORY OF TIME and it's blowing my mind. Some of the concepts I kinda get but some, whew, I can't even think about because it just seems too amazing.

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

A better book, in my opinion is Bill Bryson's "History of Nearly Everything". Bryson is not a scientist but a story teller. So his take on science, it's concepts and advancement is truly mesmerizing. I couldn't put his book down. It also makes a really good audiobook.

Imago said:

Believe it or not, that book is on my list. I read THE MOTHER TONGUE by him and I loved it!!!!! Phil's (Mdiver) sister turned me on to him.

I too have a Dick Radiometer.

what surrounded the initial material which exploded?...was it just space with no material in it?...how far does it reach, and if it has a border, what is containing it?...if it has no borders, it just goes on to infinity, and the limitlessness of it all is beyond comprehension.

I wonder if MDiver got the personal reference contained in the original article.

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

maybe the galaxies are all goldy bits of jizz spewn across the space time continuum. big old ovum planets and comet sperm crisscrossing paths again and again, sometimes with intriguing results. and if that's so, maybe the original logos, god's first echoing words must have been something like: YEESSSSS!!