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Reply #30 posted 05/07/09 2:12pm

RodeoSchro

MuthaFunka said:

Graycap23 said:


Great rule. Sponsers were starting 2 get real funny about not getting their monies worth on the advertising side of the house. That A.I., thug, braid b.s. was wearing real thin on Madison Avenue. I'm glad they cleaned it up. If u are a professional, at least dress like one.

Yet they BLAST hip hop throughout the arena EVERY GAME. Bullshit rule.


In 1993 - 94, the PA at the Summit played Prince at some point every game of the year.

In 2008 - 2009, the PA at the Toyota Center (a markedly inferior arena to the Summit, IMHO) plays Prince every game.

Coincidence?!?

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Reply #31 posted 05/07/09 2:13pm

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Also, someone needs to tell the Nuggets they are the Nuggets and cannot win the NBA title.

Because if no one tells them that, they just might win it all.
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Reply #32 posted 05/07/09 2:14pm

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Graycap23 said:

MuthaFunka said:


Yet they BLAST hip hop throughout the arena EVERY GAME. Bullshit rule.

Let's agree 2 disagree. .....great rule.
Bow down.
[Edited 5/7/09 14:10pm]

clapping That means you realized the contradiction: "Let's HEAR them but not SEE them" - the classic view of the Black man in society.
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Reply #33 posted 05/07/09 2:15pm

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RodeoSchro said:

MuthaFunka said:


Yet they BLAST hip hop throughout the arena EVERY GAME. Bullshit rule.


In 1993 - 94, the PA at the Summit played Prince at some point every game of the year.

In 2008 - 2009, the PA at the Toyota Center (a markedly inferior arena to the Summit, IMHO) plays Prince every game.

Coincidence?!?

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[Edited 5/7/09 14:12pm]


When I lived in H-Town, THEY LOVED PLAYING PRINCE! The WHOLE city did! lol
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Reply #34 posted 05/07/09 2:16pm

Graycap23

MuthaFunka said:

Graycap23 said:


Let's agree 2 disagree. .....great rule.
Bow down.
[Edited 5/7/09 14:10pm]

clapping That means you realized the contradiction: "Let's HEAR them but not SEE them" - the classic view of the Black man in society.

Great rule.....that A.I. look was played about 10 minutes before it began.
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Reply #35 posted 05/07/09 2:22pm

RodeoSchro

Graycap23 said:

MuthaFunka said:


clapping That means you realized the contradiction: "Let's HEAR them but not SEE them" - the classic view of the Black man in society.

Great rule.....that A.I. look was played about 10 minutes before it began.


How come no one points out that the black men far outdress the white men? Until this rule came along, Pat Riley and Chuck Daly were the best-dressed guys in the league.

But now, no one can touch LeBron James.

Besides Mutha, check around and you'll see the players that hated this rule at its inception like it now.
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Reply #36 posted 05/07/09 2:24pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Graycap23 said:


Great rule.....that A.I. look was played about 10 minutes before it began.


How come no one points out that the black men far outdress the white men? Until this rule came along, Pat Riley and Chuck Daly were the best-dressed guys in the league.

But now, no one can touch LeBron James.

Besides Mutha, check around and you'll see the players that hated this rule at its inception like it now.

lol Yeah, brothas can get down with their shit...but it was the fear of the whole "hip hop" image that caused that dumb ass dress code.

And yeah, now dudes are cool with it...but why did it have to be forced upon them to begin with? It's like saying "You're not intelligent enough to know what's good for you, so I'm gonna tell you for you".
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Reply #37 posted 05/07/09 2:25pm

Graycap23

MuthaFunka said:

RodeoSchro said:



How come no one points out that the black men far outdress the white men? Until this rule came along, Pat Riley and Chuck Daly were the best-dressed guys in the league.

But now, no one can touch LeBron James.

Besides Mutha, check around and you'll see the players that hated this rule at its inception like it now.

lol Yeah, brothas can get down with their shit...but it was the fear of the whole "hip hop" image that caused that dumb ass dress code.

And yeah, now dudes are cool with it...but why did it have to be forced upon them to begin with? It's like saying "You're not intelligent enough to know what's good for you, so I'm gonna tell you for you".

Pretty much.....
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Reply #38 posted 05/07/09 2:26pm

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MuthaFunka said:

NDRU said:

Speaking of Artest, he's part of the reason this stuff is happening.

Stupid rules like the players have to wear suits (do they still do this?) are just an attempt to help b-ball's image. It's not really about protecting the players IMO. It's about money. Not that it's necessarily helping.

Yeah, the whole dress code is bullshit. Tellin' grown ass men how to dress. It's that fear of the Black man again.

I think Kevin Garnet looks pretty sexy in his suit at the games. I like the dress code rule. drool
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Reply #39 posted 05/07/09 2:28pm

RodeoSchro

MuthaFunka said:

RodeoSchro said:



How come no one points out that the black men far outdress the white men? Until this rule came along, Pat Riley and Chuck Daly were the best-dressed guys in the league.

But now, no one can touch LeBron James.

Besides Mutha, check around and you'll see the players that hated this rule at its inception like it now.

lol Yeah, brothas can get down with their shit...but it was the fear of the whole "hip hop" image that caused that dumb ass dress code.

And yeah, now dudes are cool with it...but why did it have to be forced upon them to begin with? It's like saying "You're not intelligent enough to know what's good for you, so I'm gonna tell you for you".


I'm sure it was money-driven, in that the NBA was not afraid of hip-hop per se, but of an outflow of advertising dollars from non-hip-hop related companies.

For instance, if you are a big advertiser with the NBA, and you sell a product not used by the hip-hop society, but you see the NBA becoming associated first and foremost with the hip-hop society, you're gonna say something about it. My guess is enough advertisers said something, and that gave the NBA the idea to make the change.

On the other hand, if the hip-hop society was the largest marketing segment in America, and all your advertisers marketed to it, you'd be encouraging every player to dress hip-hop.

But at the end of the day, I agree with Graycap. If you're going to be a professional, then dress like a professional when you're on the job. That includes the after-game interviews.
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Reply #40 posted 05/07/09 2:29pm

JasmineFire

MuthaFunka said:

Graycap23 said:


Let's agree 2 disagree. .....great rule.
Bow down.
[Edited 5/7/09 14:10pm]

clapping That means you realized the contradiction: "Let's HEAR them but not SEE them" - the classic view of the Black man in society.

so why can't a black man dress professionally and still listen to hip hop music? why is that a contradiction? I don't see anything wrong with having the players wear suits even though they blast hip hop at the games.
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Reply #41 posted 05/07/09 2:29pm

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JasmineFire said:

MuthaFunka said:


Yeah, the whole dress code is bullshit. Tellin' grown ass men how to dress. It's that fear of the Black man again.

I think Kevin Garnet looks pretty sexy in his suit at the games. I like the dress code rule. drool

Oh lawd! lol
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Reply #42 posted 05/07/09 2:30pm

JasmineFire

MuthaFunka said:

JasmineFire said:


I think Kevin Garnet looks pretty sexy in his suit at the games. I like the dress code rule. drool

Oh lawd! lol

It's the truth! A man in a well fitted suit is so damn sexy. drool Me likey!
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Reply #43 posted 05/07/09 2:32pm

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RodeoSchro said:

MuthaFunka said:


lol Yeah, brothas can get down with their shit...but it was the fear of the whole "hip hop" image that caused that dumb ass dress code.

And yeah, now dudes are cool with it...but why did it have to be forced upon them to begin with? It's like saying "You're not intelligent enough to know what's good for you, so I'm gonna tell you for you".


I'm sure it was money-driven, in that the NBA was not afraid of hip-hop per se, but of an outflow of advertising dollars from non-hip-hop related companies.

For instance, if you are a big advertiser with the NBA, and you sell a product not used by the hip-hop society, but you see the NBA becoming associated first and foremost with the hip-hop society, you're gonna say something about it. My guess is enough advertisers said something, and that gave the NBA the idea to make the change.

On the other hand, if the hip-hop society was the largest marketing segment in America, and all your advertisers marketed to it, you'd be encouraging every player to dress hip-hop.

But at the end of the day, I agree with Graycap. If you're going to be a professional, then dress like a professional when you're on the job. That includes the after-game interviews.


Of course it was money-driven...with the undertone of this "Oh my! My little white son wants to be a thug after he saw what Marbury had on!" fear.

And what's the professional attire for a basketball player?: Answer: Tennis shoes, shorts, and tank top. THAT'S what they go to work in, does anyone else HERE dress like that for work? Fuck no! lol
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Reply #44 posted 05/07/09 2:32pm

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JasmineFire said:

MuthaFunka said:


clapping That means you realized the contradiction: "Let's HEAR them but not SEE them" - the classic view of the Black man in society.

so why can't a black man dress professionally and still listen to hip hop music? why is that a contradiction? I don't see anything wrong with having the players wear suits even though they blast hip hop at the games.


Never said that can't happen. Where are you getting that from? Show me the part where I wrote that?
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Reply #45 posted 05/07/09 2:38pm

JasmineFire

MuthaFunka said:

JasmineFire said:


so why can't a black man dress professionally and still listen to hip hop music? why is that a contradiction? I don't see anything wrong with having the players wear suits even though they blast hip hop at the games.


Never said that can't happen. Where are you getting that from? Show me the part where I wrote that?

the "see them but not hear them" response to GrayCap's post about agreeing to disagree. Perhaps I'm interpreting it wrong but your posts up to that point read to me as if you think that it's not "black" to wear suits and look professional. It also seemed like you think that having a black basketball player in a suit at a game where they are blasting hip hop music is somehow contradictory. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted you but that's what your posts read like to me.
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Reply #46 posted 05/07/09 2:38pm

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Today's NBA is soft compared to back in the day. When cats like Wes Unseld, Dave Cowens, Paul Silas and Maurice Lucas fouled your ass, THAT was a foul! Drive the lane on them, and you wound up with a footprint on your chest.


Those were the days!!! I missed those days, even though I was a young hoops fan back then, I just remember Maurice Lucans when he played for Portland, he would tell opponents before the game even started, that he was going to hurt them, just so they could prepare for the pain. Awwww those were the days.
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Reply #47 posted 05/07/09 2:53pm

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JasmineFire said:

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Never said that can't happen. Where are you getting that from? Show me the part where I wrote that?

the "see them but not hear them" response to GrayCap's post about agreeing to disagree. Perhaps I'm interpreting it wrong but your posts up to that point read to me as if you think that it's not "black" to wear suits and look professional. It also seemed like you think that having a black basketball player in a suit at a game where they are blasting hip hop music is somehow contradictory. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted you but that's what your posts read like to me.


No, my point is, let them wear what they want - whether that be suits, jeans or sweats. They're in a damn gym for Christ's sake. And as far as the music, m point was - why is it ok to play the music from the people their dress style emulates?
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Reply #48 posted 05/07/09 3:02pm

JasmineFire

MuthaFunka said:

JasmineFire said:


the "see them but not hear them" response to GrayCap's post about agreeing to disagree. Perhaps I'm interpreting it wrong but your posts up to that point read to me as if you think that it's not "black" to wear suits and look professional. It also seemed like you think that having a black basketball player in a suit at a game where they are blasting hip hop music is somehow contradictory. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted you but that's what your posts read like to me.


No, my point is, let them wear what they want - whether that be suits, jeans or sweats. They're in a damn gym for Christ's sake. And as far as the music, m point was - why is it ok to play the music from the people their dress style emulates?

aaahh! I understand what you're saying now.
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Reply #49 posted 05/07/09 3:06pm

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MuthaFunka said:

RodeoSchro said:



In 1993 - 94, the PA at the Summit played Prince at some point every game of the year.

In 2008 - 2009, the PA at the Toyota Center (a markedly inferior arena to the Summit, IMHO) plays Prince every game.

Coincidence?!?

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[Edited 5/7/09 14:12pm]


When I lived in H-Town, THEY LOVED PLAYING PRINCE! The WHOLE city did! lol

Every arena I've been to plays Prince that's never changed. lol
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Reply #50 posted 05/07/09 3:11pm

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MuthaFunka said:


lol Yeah, brothas can get down with their shit...but it was the fear of the whole "hip hop" image that caused that dumb ass dress code.

And yeah, now dudes are cool with it...but why did it have to be forced upon them to begin with? It's like saying "You're not intelligent enough to know what's good for you, so I'm gonna tell you for you".


I'm sure it was money-driven, in that the NBA was not afraid of hip-hop per se, but of an outflow of advertising dollars from non-hip-hop related companies.

For instance, if you are a big advertiser with the NBA, and you sell a product not used by the hip-hop society, but you see the NBA becoming associated first and foremost with the hip-hop society, you're gonna say something about it. My guess is enough advertisers said something, and that gave the NBA the idea to make the change.

On the other hand, if the hip-hop society was the largest marketing segment in America, and all your advertisers marketed to it, you'd be encouraging every player to dress hip-hop.

But at the end of the day, I agree with Graycap. If you're going to be a professional, then dress like a professional when you're on the job. That includes the after-game interviews.

The problem with this is that the "hip hop society" is largely made up of teenaged to twentysomething white boys with substantial discretionary income. So from a marketing standpoint it makes more sense to use hip-hop influenced imagery because it is now synonymous with America's youth culture and not restricted to the "urban" (read: black) market anymore.
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Reply #51 posted 05/07/09 3:58pm

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Graycap23 said:

lol.....those were they days. detriot used 2 beat Mj into a coma.


Hell yeah...you don't let a muthaphucka drive the lane without paying the price. He'll think twice about driving again. I hate how the league has become so pussified.


The NBA got pussified when they ban hand checking. THIS alone took all the fun out of playing defense. And it also made defense assignments against Kobe Bryant more difficult because of it.
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Reply #52 posted 05/07/09 4:03pm

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But suspending TOP players at Money time? (Playoffs)
No other sports does this dumb shit and they don't have these problems.


That's because basketball is "considered" a non-contact sport, so when players DO tangle, it's usually no protection between them and the risk of injury is a lot higher than, say, football.


Have you ever seen a pick and roll play during the Utah Jazz's Malone/Stockton era? There were always contact when someone was pick.
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Reply #53 posted 05/07/09 4:23pm

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kpowers said:




Yes only no-name players should ever be suspended in any sport.

lol.....no one should be suspended in the playoffs.



no....some one HAS to, so to be fair it should be a no-name player
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Reply #54 posted 05/07/09 4:23pm

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RodeoSchro said:

In 1993 - 94, the PA at the Summit played Prince at some point every game of the year.

In 2008 - 2009, the PA at the Toyota Center (a markedly inferior arena to the Summit, IMHO) plays Prince every game.

Coincidence?!?

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[Edited 5/7/09 14:12pm]


Isn't The Summit now Joel Osteen's megachurch? innocent pray beg angel

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Reply #55 posted 05/07/09 4:50pm

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JasmineFire said:

MuthaFunka said:



No, my point is, let them wear what they want - whether that be suits, jeans or sweats. They're in a damn gym for Christ's sake. And as far as the music, m point was - why is it ok to play the music from the people their dress style emulates?

aaahh! I understand what you're saying now.

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Reply #56 posted 05/07/09 4:51pm

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SCNDLS said:

MuthaFunka said:



When I lived in H-Town, THEY LOVED PLAYING PRINCE! The WHOLE city did! lol

Every arena I've been to plays Prince that's never changed. lol

I've been to Staples here in L.A. a few times and ain't never heard that skinny muthafucka with the hiiiiigh voice played.
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Reply #57 posted 05/07/09 4:52pm

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TonyVanDam said:

MuthaFunka said:



That's because basketball is "considered" a non-contact sport, so when players DO tangle, it's usually no protection between them and the risk of injury is a lot higher than, say, football.


Have you ever seen a pick and roll play during the Utah Jazz's Malone/Stockton era? There were always contact when someone was pick.

Yeah, to call hoops a non-contact sport is bogus.
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Reply #58 posted 05/07/09 4:52pm

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SCNDLS said:


Every arena I've been to plays Prince that's never changed. lol

I've been to Staples here in L.A. a few times and ain't never heard that skinny muthafucka with the hiiiiigh voice played.

Really? I've heard Kiss playing on TV at Laker games. hmmm
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Reply #59 posted 05/07/09 4:53pm

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SCNDLS said:

MuthaFunka said:


I've been to Staples here in L.A. a few times and ain't never heard that skinny muthafucka with the hiiiiigh voice played.

Really? I've heard Kiss playing on TV at Laker games. hmmm

Then again...I haven't been to a Laker game...just Clippers lol
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