MuthaFunka said:

We gotta give it a date to be done by, let's say by May of 2010? That gives 'em a year, cool?

MuthaFunka said:

Let's all be honest here. He ducked Cotto. He did.

JerseyKRS said:

Only to get a bigger payday from oscar. Happens all the time.

MuthaFunka said:

but Cotto was the more dangerous fight!! You see my knock on him?!?

JerseyKRS said:

Money talks, yo. That's all boxing is about these days - the big payday. Oscar was a MUCH BIGGER payday than Cotto.

Agreed. but don't holler to me how you're the best of all time, know what I mean?? That's all I'm saying. I totally hate taking this stance because Floyd is one of the most talented fighters I've seen. But dude takes the easy way out. Or the most expensive one.

MuthaFunka said:

Agreed. but don't holler to me how you're the best of all time, know what I mean?? That's all I'm saying. I totally hate taking this stance because Floyd is one of the most talented fighters I've seen. But dude takes the easy way out. Or the most expensive one.

JerseyKRS said:

Abdul said:

I mean, I know you're not supposed to get hit, it's one of the objects of the sport, but sometimes I believe that was paramount for Pernell, at the expense of everything else. He also LOVED to complain in the ring. Shut up and fight.

JerseyKRS said:

his fights have always put me to sleep

I mean, I know you're not supposed to get hit, it's one of the objects of the sport, but sometimes I believe that was paramount for Pernell, at the expense of everything else. He also LOVED to complain in the ring. Shut up and fight.

Manny is unbeaten at this weight, and everyone keeps bringing up how his forward style is beatable. Freddy Roach has mentioned this, and I've def. noticed it in his latest fights....he has become a COMPLETE fighter. He has plenty head movement, presents many different angles, and his right hand has become as strong as his left. It's tough to notice when people are just paying attention to his offensive style, but it is there. ,

Corrales -too little



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Let's all be honest here. He ducked Cotto. He did.

JerseyKRS said:

his fights have always put me to sleep

MuthaFunka said:

Nope that all came down to $$$$ and Oscar was willing to pay Floyd more then Cotto's promoter Bob Arum to get in the ring

Abdul said:

lol, no worries. It's good to talk boxing!


BTW, I didn't see him fight, but my old man did, and he's always told me about how great of a defensive fighter Willie Pep was. Sweet Pea was always too ho hum for me.

I mean, I know you're not supposed to get hit, it's one of the objects of the sport, but sometimes I believe that was paramount for Pernell, at the expense of everything else. He also LOVED to complain in the ring. Shut up and fight.

Manny is unbeaten at this weight, and everyone keeps bringing up how his forward style is beatable. Freddy Roach has mentioned this, and I've def. noticed it in his latest fights....he has become a COMPLETE fighter. He has plenty head movement, presents many different angles, and his right hand has become as strong as his left. It's tough to notice when people are just paying attention to his offensive style, but it is there. He is a great, yes, great, technical fighter now.

IF Floyd accepts that fight, which I truly believe he won't NO MATTER the payday, it will be the toughest fight of his career, which isn't saying much. THAT is why he won't take it. He does not fight any and everyone. I would have more respect for him if he did that. Mind you, I think Floyd is incredibly talented, absolutely to be mentioned in the best pound for pound. But he likes to blabber about how he's the best boxer in history, and for that you need to take on every challenger, and not a year or two after the match up should have happened. You don't get to talk about being better than Robinson, Louis, Ali etc. by winning against:

Hatton -outclassed him
De La Hoya -clearly past his prime
Baldomir -again, outclassed
Judah -overrated for years
Gatti -a punching bag
Corrales -too little

I could go on and on.....

If Floyd wants to be mentioned amongst the greats in the sport, he NEEDS to not only take the fight with Manny BEFORE THE SUMMER OF 2010, but he needs to win DECISIVELY. I would love for him to shut me up, I really would. But Floyd isn't taking ANY fight that he might lose, bet money on that shit.

Hatton outclassed Floyd? Utter horse shit.

And as for your contention that Floyd needs to win decisively against Pacman to be considered a true great - thats just more manure.

Otherwise, I agreed with your post. When it comes to Floyd though, your strong dislike of him really clouds your judgment.

JerseyKRS said:

papaaisaway said:

I was saying Hatton wasn't in Floyds class, as in Floyd is a better fighter than him.

Do you think Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the greatest boxer of all time? That's the problem I have with him. Nothing more.

Sorry. I misuderstood you.

And no, he isn't the greatest of all time, and yes he does have a big mouth but he (along with Pacman now) is the most impressive boxer I've seen in a helluva while.

He should be fighting to secure his place in the history of the sport at this point

Uh, he's undefeated, 39 wins...and you STILL question his place in boixing history? Dude, just keep it real and say "I hate Floyd" and be done with it.

MuthaFunka said:

I DON'T hate him!!!!

Tell his ass to fight any and all takers, aside from obvious scrubs of course, then I'll be happy!

Arum's on crack - but he's only doing what he's supposed to do to sweeten the purse for their fight. Pac ain't fightin' Cotto.