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In general I avoid conflict at all costs. But somehow when it comes to certain things in my work life I simply can’t let things go. I have been told there are people who have been afraid of me in the past and even my boss jokes about trying to get certain things done when I’m out of the office (at the same time, he encourages and values my outspoken opinions on things as well, so I know it’s all good). I’m trying to not be such a bitch and look for better/other ways to deal with certain things but when I know I’m right that proves difficult for me. |
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sometimes i feel like i should be more outspoken and opinionated, especially when i'm in situations where people around me are talking smack about things that i personally take offense to.
but i think it's wiser to consider where that would get me. would people really learn from what i have to say? would i open up any kind of meaningful dialogue? would i stand to gain anything from it? or would it just turn in to a nasty headbutting session that ends up in hurt feelings and resentments? i think there is a point where it's perfectly acceptable to say, "okay, that's it, you're gonna hear from ME now," but mostly i think it's just as empowering for me to keep my mouth shut as it is to let it all hang out. | |
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most of the time i just need to shut the fuck up.
I've been trying real hard as of late to do this, and typically satisfied with the out come when i do. To make a thief, make an owner; to create crime, create laws. | |
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I don't think i have ever convinced anybody of anything by shouting and screaming that they are wrong
best thing to do is keep quite and leave them to nature What you don't remember never happened | |
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Anxiety said: sometimes i feel like i should be more outspoken and opinionated, especially when i'm in situations where people around me are talking smack about things that i personally take offense to.
but i think it's wiser to consider where that would get me. would people really learn from what i have to say? would i open up any kind of meaningful dialogue? would i stand to gain anything from it? or would it just turn in to a nasty headbutting session that ends up in hurt feelings and resentments? i think there is a point where it's perfectly acceptable to say, "okay, that's it, you're gonna hear from ME now," but mostly i think it's just as empowering for me to keep my mouth shut as it is to let it all hang out. exactly how i feel about it. some people would hope for you to engage just so they could provoke a certain reaction out of you. but a fun thing to do here would be to keep on twisting/taking their quotes out of context all along, in the worst way possible give them a little taste! | |
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Anxiety said: sometimes i feel like i should be more outspoken and opinionated, especially when i'm in situations where people around me are talking smack about things that i personally take offense to.
but i think it's wiser to consider where that would get me. would people really learn from what i have to say? would i open up any kind of meaningful dialogue? would i stand to gain anything from it? or would it just turn in to a nasty headbutting session that ends up in hurt feelings and resentments? i think there is a point where it's perfectly acceptable to say, "okay, that's it, you're gonna hear from ME now," but mostly i think it's just as empowering for me to keep my mouth shut as it is to let it all hang out. This really is it for me - explained perfectly | |
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My general stance is that people have a right to think whatever they want. I don't have to agree with them - and I don't have a right not to be offended. I can choose whether to engage them or not. I get to decide how their words affect me.
I try to keep in mind that there are probably just as many opinions I hold that are offensive to someone else as there are opinions of others that are offensive to me. But to be honest, it's rarely peoples' opinions that bother me. Their manner counts for a great deal more. Nobody likes to be made to feel stupid or wrong - particularly when all the other person has on their side is their own opinion. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Anxiety said: When's the last time someone pushed YOU to a place where you had to just plain break down the facts to them?
One of my co-workers has a habit of telling others how to do their jobs. She picked the wrong day to do it to me, and I let loose with f-bombs & b-bombs. Bitch had it coming, and I haven't talked to her since - she's dead to me(that was over a year ago). Only time I bite my tongue is with family & friends, but I let it loose with strangers. I'm trying to do a better job of controlling my temper, but MFers keep dragging me back in. | |
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Genesia said: My general stance is that people have a right to think whatever they want. I don't have to agree with them - and I don't have a right not to be offended. I can choose whether to engage them or not. I get to decide how their words affect me.
I try to keep in mind that there are probably just as many opinions I hold that are offensive to someone else as there are opinions of others that are offensive to me. But to be honest, it's rarely peoples' opinions that bother me. Their manner counts for a great deal more. Nobody likes to be made to feel stupid or wrong - particularly when all the other person has on their side is their own opinion. | |
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Genesia said: My general stance is that people have a right to think whatever they want. I don't have to agree with them - and I don't have a right not to be offended. I can choose whether to engage them or not. I get to decide how their words affect me.
I try to keep in mind that there are probably just as many opinions I hold that are offensive to someone else as there are opinions of others that are offensive to me. But to be honest, it's rarely peoples' opinions that bother me. Their manner counts for a great deal more. Nobody likes to be made to feel stupid or wrong - particularly when all the other person has on their side is their own opinion. 99% of the time this is my philosophy too, which I have never really thought out so eloquently...it's always just been more of an unarticulated, mostly instinctive way of going about my days. it's good to see your attitude spelled out like that. it kind of defines for me what i already know but never really mapped out. | |
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johnart said: ZombieKitten said: people here in USA let it all out baby
Are you on your way??? Friday | |
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uPtoWnNY said: Anxiety said: When's the last time someone pushed YOU to a place where you had to just plain break down the facts to them?
One of my co-workers has a habit of telling others how to do their jobs. She picked the wrong day to do it to me, and I let loose with f-bombs & b-bombs. Bitch had it coming, and I haven't talked to her since - she's dead to me(that was over a year ago). Only time I bite my tongue is with family & friends, but I let it loose with strangers. I'm trying to do a better job of controlling my temper, but MFers keep dragging me back in. oh, when a co-worker treats me inappropriately with regards to work-related stuff, i have no problem nipping that right in the bud. double that if it's a superior being inappropriate, which seems to be most often the case. | |
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Gawd, I had to think about it I'm pretty good at being calm, even when a mf is trying to get on my nerves. The last blowup I can remember was years ago, unfortunately at work I just remember yelling across a room at this dude, him yelling back @ me, CUSS WORDS & it wasn't even work related, he'd said something dumber than usual & I couldn't take it that day
I've been way more mellow since. In fact there's been some incidences where I needed to come for a bitch but didn't. I need a little of that back | |
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I was being stalked by an old co-worker for four years. I was in no position to do anything about it. Considering I thought it would totally be worth it to go to jail just so I could slap that bitch, never flipping out in her presence tells me I can pick my battles pretty well.
I read old bitches at Bingo all the time though I never strike first but strike me and you're getting knocked the hell out. Verbally of course U edit! [Edited 4/28/09 10:22am] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Anxiety said: still, though...sometimes it just feels like people want to corner you and force you down to their level. it's a disgusting feeling. it's a kind of violation as far as i'm concerned.
I don't see it that way at all. I see them climbing up to your perch trying to pull you down. It's OK to kick their ass the hell off! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Anxiety said: Ace said: You know Miss California?! actually, the argument started because of that ho. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Anxiety said: still, though...sometimes it just feels like people want to corner you and force you down to their level. it's a disgusting feeling. it's a kind of violation as far as i'm concerned.
I don't see it that way at all. I see them climbing up to your perch trying to pull you down. It's OK to kick their ass the hell off! but i'm not trying to invite anyone to my perch in the first place! don't touch my perch! [Edited 4/28/09 10:25am] | |
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Anxiety said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I don't see it that way at all. I see them climbing up to your perch trying to pull you down. It's OK to kick their ass the hell off! but i'm not trying to invite anyone to my perch! Exactly why you need to kick them the phuc off when they are an Alanis Morrisette song! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Anxiety said: heybaby said: I've yet to see Chris really really angry but I'm sure its a mutha when it comes out i don't want to go into too many details. let's just say i've had to deal with someone who, for the past couple of years, has been very vocal about their socio-political views. and let's just say their political aesthetic runs a few inches to the right of archie bunker. and for the past couple of years, i've kept my mouth shut, because i really haven't wanted to engage with this person about politics or social issues, because i knew i had nothing to say which could change this person, and i've already heard enough of their ignorant point of view to know they would NEVER be changing me. but last week, they finally wore me down. in the middle of a "harmless" discussion, they slipped some prejudiced BS in the conversation and i finally let them have it. really, i just stated my opinion as calmly and as gently as i could, but that started to escalate, and it just got worse and worse until the reading of the beads was forced to happen. i'm kind of like threadbare. i tend to prefer letting powers greater than myself take care of people who need to have lessons taught to them. god/fate/The Way/whatever you want to call it, that force in life does a better job of kicking people in the ass than i ever could. still, though...sometimes it just feels like people want to corner you and force you down to their level. it's a disgusting feeling. it's a kind of violation as far as i'm concerned. good for you! | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I was being stalked by an old co-worker for four years. I was in no position to do anything about it. Considering I thought it would totally be worth it to go to jail just so I could slap that bitch, never flipping out in her presence tells me I can pick my battles pretty well.
I read old bitches at Bingo all the time though I never strike first but strike me and you're getting knocked the hell out. Verbally of course U edit! [Edited 4/28/09 10:22am] What? Someone stalked you for four years? The bingo part, I wouldn't pay those old ladies no mind. | |
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I don't go around people who I would have to cuss tha fuck out. Online, I just speak my mind, no matter what. | |
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Vendetta1 said: I don't go around people who I would have to cuss tha fuck out. Online, I just speak my mind, no matter what.
what about people you have no choice but to be around regularly? co-workers, people like that? | |
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angel345 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I was being stalked by an old co-worker for four years. I was in no position to do anything about it. Considering I thought it would totally be worth it to go to jail just so I could slap that bitch, never flipping out in her presence tells me I can pick my battles pretty well.
I read old bitches at Bingo all the time though I never strike first but strike me and you're getting knocked the hell out. Verbally of course U edit! [Edited 4/28/09 10:22am] What? Someone stalked you for four years? The bingo part, I wouldn't pay those old ladies no mind. She was a personal friend of the boss and she treated the entire staff like filth. She was obsessed with me. On her last day I had to learn the distribution for some reports and as we were walking back from passing them out she says "I know you're happy I'm leaving". I didn't say a word and just kept smiling in the sun And just because a lady is old don't mean I gotta let her shove me out of line and yell at me! I don't take no crap from old ladies. I'll cut them some slack but if evil is covered in wrinkled skin, I don't spare it. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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CarrieMpls said: Anxiety said: i was merely acting in self defense. I know! I was shoving and swearing myself. I forgot about that | |
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heybaby said: CarrieMpls said: I know! I was shoving and swearing myself. I forgot about that oh, that's right...we were all there for that throwdown! | |
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Anxiety said: Vendetta1 said: I don't go around people who I would have to cuss tha fuck out. Online, I just speak my mind, no matter what.
what about people you have no choice but to be around regularly? co-workers, people like that? | |
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Vendetta1 said: I don't go around people who I would have to cuss tha fuck out. Online, I just speak my mind, no matter what.
I won't name names but the look on somebody's face when you straight out said NO was priceless. She's rude! I didn't notice I really don't! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Vendetta1 said: I don't go around people who I would have to cuss tha fuck out. Online, I just speak my mind, no matter what.
I won't name names but the look on somebody's face when you straight out said NO was priceless. She's rude! I didn't notice I really don't! Do I like them? If not, fuck 'em. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: angel345 said: What? Someone stalked you for four years? The bingo part, I wouldn't pay those old ladies no mind. She was a personal friend of the boss and she treated the entire staff like filth. She was obsessed with me. On her last day I had to learn the distribution for some reports and as we were walking back from passing them out she says "I know you're happy I'm leaving". I didn't say a word and just kept smiling in the sun And just because a lady is old don't mean I gotta let her shove me out of line and yell at me! I don't take no crap from old ladies. I'll cut them some slack but if evil is covered in wrinkled skin, I don't spare it. Wow! that sounds like harassment, but you've handled that well somehow. What stopped you from taking legal action against this woman? I used to go to bingo halls a lot in the 90's with my friend and her mother. The most I've won was $400 dollars, and her mother won $3,000 dollars. The elderly ones I've seen were pretty cool, including the workers | |
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Vendetta1 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I won't name names but the look on somebody's face when you straight out said NO was priceless. She's rude! I didn't notice I really don't! Do I like them? If not, fuck 'em. Yes and I don't know I thought the same thing you did so I just shut my mouth and said nothing 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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