But what's funny is, is how some of y'all don't want to place ANY accountability on her. None. And that's one of the prime reasons these sorta things happen. Some of you will say she lied but you won't hold her accountable for making an unwise decision to begin with? That shit makes no sense. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: JustErin said: And don't forget. Let's place some of the blame on the woman for being there in the first place. Woman should just not be around strange men alone because that's what can happen. Let's not try to change men's attitude towards women in the first place. No, let's just continue to just say, "well, that's just the way things are" and leave it at that. Oh, so you know ALL THE TIME what's gonna happen when you're in a hotel room with a strange man? Huh? | |
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MuthaFunka said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: You're assuming she knew what the hell was gonna happen (rape). What is "accountablity"? Does she not file rape charges? Ce la vie? Que Sera Sera. What the hell is your problem? I know you're not alone with this lunacy but goddamn. . [Edited 4/23/09 13:43pm] Dawg, you have absolutely no sense of what you just said. You just said she was accountable for "filing rape charges" - WTF? That makes NO SENSE. At all. Think about that and see why it doesn't make any sense. Wow! You make no sense. What is your definition of her "holding herself accountable" in that situation? HOW DOES SHE DO THAT?. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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JustErin said: MuthaFunka said: Oh, so you know ALL THE TIME what's gonna happen when you're in a hotel room with a strange man? Huh? Just what I said: Everytime you go to these rooms with these unknown men, you're telling us that you know EXACTLY what's gonna happen each and every time? nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: But what's funny is, is how some of y'all don't want to place ANY accountability on her. None. And that's one of the prime reasons these sorta things happen. Some of you will say she lied but you won't hold her accountable for making an unwise decision to begin with? That shit makes no sense.
Wise or unwise, she doesn't deserve to be raped nor should she be blamed for it. Woman kind is reduced to Jody Foster in the Accused the way you explain things. It's sickening. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: MuthaFunka said: Dawg, you have absolutely no sense of what you just said. You just said she was accountable for "filing rape charges" - WTF? That makes NO SENSE. At all. Think about that and see why it doesn't make any sense. Wow! You make no sense. What is your definition of her "holding herself accountable" in that situation? HOW DOES SHE DO THAT?. Dude, if you honestly don't know...then you're not equipped to discuss this with me. For real. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: MuthaFunka said: But what's funny is, is how some of y'all don't want to place ANY accountability on her. None. And that's one of the prime reasons these sorta things happen. Some of you will say she lied but you won't hold her accountable for making an unwise decision to begin with? That shit makes no sense.
Wise or unwise, she doesn't deserve to be raped nor should she be blamed for it. Woman kind is reduced to Jody Foster in the Accused the way you explain things. It's sickening. I'll make a deal with you - If you can show me where I said "She deserved to be raped" I'll delete my account. If you can't, then you delete YOUR account. Deal? nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: JustErin said: Huh? Just what I said: Everytime you go to these rooms with these unknown men, you're telling us that you know EXACTLY what's gonna happen each and every time? You don't know exactly what is going to happen to you EVER warning - graphic Oh My God! He dared to walk in the crosswalk. Now he's dead. He needs to take responsibility! . [Edited 4/23/09 13:53pm] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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MuthaFunka said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: You make no sense. What is your definition of her "holding herself accountable" in that situation? HOW DOES SHE DO THAT?. Dude, if you honestly don't know...then you're not equipped to discuss this with me. For real. I don't know. That's why I'm asking you to define what you mean by she needs to hold herself accountable. How does she do that. Define it for me. And don't take the pussy way out by doing what you just did. Educate me. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: MuthaFunka said: Dude, if you honestly don't know...then you're not equipped to discuss this with me. For real. I don't know. That's why I'm asking you to define what you mean by she needs to hold herself accountable. How does she do that. Define it for me. And don't take the pussy way out by doing what you just did. Educate me. And that's the problem. You REALLY don't and I doubt you'll ever know the point of all this. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: MuthaFunka said: Just what I said: Everytime you go to these rooms with these unknown men, you're telling us that you know EXACTLY what's gonna happen each and every time? You don't know exactly what is going to happen to you EVER warning - graphic Oh My God! He dared to walk in the crosswalk. Now he's dead. He needs to take responsibility! . [Edited 4/23/09 13:53pm] Actually this guy did not die. | |
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Graycap23 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: You don't know exactly what is going to happen to you EVER warning - graphic Oh My God! He dared to walk in the crosswalk. Now he's dead. He needs to take responsibility! . [Edited 4/23/09 13:53pm] Actually this guy did not die. Well all the better for him to hold himself accountable for his actions! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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MuthaFunka said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I don't know. That's why I'm asking you to define what you mean by she needs to hold herself accountable. How does she do that. Define it for me. And don't take the pussy way out by doing what you just did. Educate me. And that's the problem. You REALLY don't and I doubt you'll ever know the point of all this. Exactly as I predicted 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Graycap23 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: You don't know exactly what is going to happen to you EVER warning - graphic Oh My God! He dared to walk in the crosswalk. Now he's dead. He needs to take responsibility! . [Edited 4/23/09 13:53pm] Actually this guy did not die. HE PARALYZED? BRAIN DAMAGED? RICH OFF THE LAWSUIT AT LEAST? | |
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MuthaFunka said: JustErin said: Huh? Just what I said: Everytime you go to these rooms with these unknown men, you're telling us that you know EXACTLY what's gonna happen each and every time? No. Where did I say that? | |
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JustErin said: MuthaFunka said: Just what I said: Everytime you go to these rooms with these unknown men, you're telling us that you know EXACTLY what's gonna happen each and every time? No. Where did I say that? I never said you said that. I just said you don't know what's gonna happen when you go to a strange man's room. And you agree, because you don't. So why INCREASE your chances of something bad happening to you when you could avoid the situation altogether? nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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DesireeNevermind said: Graycap23 said: Actually this guy did not die. HE PARALYZED? BRAIN DAMAGED? RICH OFF THE LAWSUIT AT LEAST? If I remember correctly, he was not even injured. | |
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Graycap23 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: You don't know exactly what is going to happen to you EVER warning - graphic Oh My God! He dared to walk in the crosswalk. Now he's dead. He needs to take responsibility! . [Edited 4/23/09 13:53pm] Actually this guy did not die. No, what Soopa's saying is: Desiree had the same exact chance of being sexually assaulted that night, whether she stayed in her hotel room or wther she went to Mike's room. The chances were the exact same. Going to a stranger's hotel room at 3am made no bit of a difference because that night she was gonna get sexually assaulted wherever she was. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Graycap23 said: Actually this guy did not die. No, what Soopa's saying is: Desiree had the same exact chance of being sexually assaulted that night, whether she stayed in her hotel room or wther she went to Mike's room. The chances were the exact same. Going to a stranger's hotel room at 3am made no bit of a difference because that night she was gonna get sexually assaulted wherever she was. That is not what I said. You are putting the oness on the woman, making it all about her. Women can be as careful as possible and still get raped. The issue is that a woman, no matter if she has bad judgement or not, has ALL RIGHTS to say no and the responsibility is on the man for perpetrating a crime on her. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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DesireeNevermind said: But come on y'all. She probably thought he was trustworthy. Don't all fans think their idols are harmless? How many of you wouldn't hesitate to go to Prince's hotel room at 3 in the AM?
Look at how many people dogged Givens. This girl probably thought Mike was getting a raw deal all around and that he was nothing but a misunderstood gentleman. When this story broke there was talk that she didn't really want to go but her friends kept egging her on and Mike kept calling and begging her to come. Maybe she felt pressure. Ummmm, Mike Tyson, "harmless???" He made his living beating mofos down and had confessed to hitting his wife on national tv. I wouldn't use the word harmless to describe that ear chomping nut. As for Prince, sure I'd go but I got a good 50 pounds and 4 inches on that lil nucca so he would be more at risk of being sexually assaulted by ME. Oh, and in THIS case she had been flirting with him all day and he had been saying nasty shit to her all day at the pageant rehearsal. She admitted to this. So I'm STILL calling "bullshit" on her going up to conversate with that crazy muthafucka at 3 in tha morning. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: MuthaFunka said: No, what Soopa's saying is: Desiree had the same exact chance of being sexually assaulted that night, whether she stayed in her hotel room or wther she went to Mike's room. The chances were the exact same. Going to a stranger's hotel room at 3am made no bit of a difference because that night she was gonna get sexually assaulted wherever she was. That is not what I said. You are putting the oness on the woman, making it all about her. Women can be as careful as possible and still get raped. The issue is that a woman, no matter if she has bad judgement or not, has ALL RIGHTS to say no and the responsibility is on the man for perpetrating a crime on her. Nope. Wrong. That's pretty much what you said "It can happen anywhere". nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: JustErin said: No. Where did I say that? I never said you said that. I just said you don't know what's gonna happen when you go to a strange man's room. And you agree, because you don't. So why INCREASE your chances of something bad happening to you when you could avoid the situation altogether? How about we deal with the root of the problem instead of "avoiding situations"? But no one ever wants to do that, do they? | |
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SCNDLS said: DesireeNevermind said: But come on y'all. She probably thought he was trustworthy. Don't all fans think their idols are harmless? How many of you wouldn't hesitate to go to Prince's hotel room at 3 in the AM?
Look at how many people dogged Givens. This girl probably thought Mike was getting a raw deal all around and that he was nothing but a misunderstood gentleman. When this story broke there was talk that she didn't really want to go but her friends kept egging her on and Mike kept calling and begging her to come. Maybe she felt pressure. Ummmm, Mike Tyson, "harmless???" He made his living beating mofos down and had confessed to hitting his wife on national tv. I wouldn't use the word harmless to describe that ear chomping nut. As for Prince, sure I'd go but I got a good 50 pounds and 4 inches on that lil nucca so he would be more at risk of being sexually assaulted by ME. Oh, and in THIS case she had been flirting with him all day and he had been saying nasty shit to her all day at the pageant rehearsal. She admitted to this. So I'm STILL calling "bullshit" on her going up to conversate with that crazy muthafucka at 3 in tha morning. now now... i wont say she was flirting. i saw the rehearsal vidz and she was just being that shy girl all amped cuz ole Mikey boy was paying attention to her. There were plenty other more attractive girls there who let their adoration be fully known. I read where someone had told him to stay away from her cuz she was a "good girl" which translates to virgin and you know thats gonna put a mofo like Mike in bull heat! While I don't condone her or anyone going to a man's, no wait, an athlete's room at 3 am unchaperoned, I still dont think she brought the rape on herself. Mike was gonna get him some that night from somebody. She just happened to be there and its terrible what happened to her. I mean the police reports said he bit her pussy in addition to raping her!!! WTF? | |
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SCNDLS said: DesireeNevermind said: But come on y'all. She probably thought he was trustworthy. Don't all fans think their idols are harmless? How many of you wouldn't hesitate to go to Prince's hotel room at 3 in the AM?
Look at how many people dogged Givens. This girl probably thought Mike was getting a raw deal all around and that he was nothing but a misunderstood gentleman. When this story broke there was talk that she didn't really want to go but her friends kept egging her on and Mike kept calling and begging her to come. Maybe she felt pressure. Ummmm, Mike Tyson, "harmless???" He made his living beating mofos down and had confessed to hitting his wife on national tv. I wouldn't use the word harmless to describe that ear chomping nut. As for Prince, sure I'd go but I got a good 50 pounds and 4 inches on that lil nucca so he would be more at risk of being sexually assaulted by ME. Oh, and in THIS case she had been flirting with him all day and he had been saying nasty shit to her all day at the pageant rehearsal. She admitted to this. So I'm STILL calling "bullshit" on her going up to conversate with that crazy muthafucka at 3 in tha morning. Yeah, they can almost pass for "the harmless twins": nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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JustErin said: MuthaFunka said: I never said you said that. I just said you don't know what's gonna happen when you go to a strange man's room. And you agree, because you don't. So why INCREASE your chances of something bad happening to you when you could avoid the situation altogether? How about we deal with the root of the problem instead of "avoiding situations"? But no one ever wants to do that, do they? Ok, so how do we end sexual assualt? nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: SCNDLS said: Ummmm, Mike Tyson, "harmless???" He made his living beating mofos down and had confessed to hitting his wife on national tv. I wouldn't use the word harmless to describe that ear chomping nut. As for Prince, sure I'd go but I got a good 50 pounds and 4 inches on that lil nucca so he would be more at risk of being sexually assaulted by ME. Oh, and in THIS case she had been flirting with him all day and he had been saying nasty shit to her all day at the pageant rehearsal. She admitted to this. So I'm STILL calling "bullshit" on her going up to conversate with that crazy muthafucka at 3 in tha morning. Yeah, they can almost pass for "the harmless twins": Prince is not physically capable of rape? | |
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MuthaFunka said: JustErin said: How about we deal with the root of the problem instead of "avoiding situations"? But no one ever wants to do that, do they? Ok, so how do we end sexual assualt? It all starts with how we are raising our boys. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: SCNDLS said: Ummmm, Mike Tyson, "harmless???" He made his living beating mofos down and had confessed to hitting his wife on national tv. I wouldn't use the word harmless to describe that ear chomping nut. As for Prince, sure I'd go but I got a good 50 pounds and 4 inches on that lil nucca so he would be more at risk of being sexually assaulted by ME. Oh, and in THIS case she had been flirting with him all day and he had been saying nasty shit to her all day at the pageant rehearsal. She admitted to this. So I'm STILL calling "bullshit" on her going up to conversate with that crazy muthafucka at 3 in tha morning. now now... i wont say she was flirting. i saw the rehearsal vidz and she was just being that shy girl all amped cuz ole Mikey boy was paying attention to her. There were plenty other more attractive girls there who let their adoration be fully known. I read where someone had told him to stay away from her cuz she was a "good girl" which translates to virgin and you know thats gonna put a mofo like Mike in bull heat! While I don't condone her or anyone going to a man's, no wait, an athlete's room at 3 am unchaperoned, I still dont think she brought the rape on herself. Mike was gonna get him some that night from somebody. She just happened to be there and its terrible what happened to her. I mean the police reports said he bit her pussy in addition to raping her!!! WTF? But how do you know any of that? Based on what? And she just didn't "happen to be there" - she WENT there and that's how she "happened" there. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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JustErin said: MuthaFunka said: Yeah, they can almost pass for "the harmless twins": Prince is not physically capable of rape? Show me where I said that. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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DesireeNevermind said: SCNDLS said: Ummmm, Mike Tyson, "harmless???" He made his living beating mofos down and had confessed to hitting his wife on national tv. I wouldn't use the word harmless to describe that ear chomping nut. As for Prince, sure I'd go but I got a good 50 pounds and 4 inches on that lil nucca so he would be more at risk of being sexually assaulted by ME. Oh, and in THIS case she had been flirting with him all day and he had been saying nasty shit to her all day at the pageant rehearsal. She admitted to this. So I'm STILL calling "bullshit" on her going up to conversate with that crazy muthafucka at 3 in tha morning. now now... i wont say she was flirting. i saw the rehearsal vidz and she was just being that shy girl all amped cuz ole Mikey boy was paying attention to her. There were plenty other more attractive girls there who let their adoration be fully known. I read where someone had told him to stay away from her cuz she was a "good girl" which translates to virgin and you know thats gonna put a mofo like Mike in bull heat! While I don't condone her or anyone going to a man's, no wait, an athlete's room at 3 am unchaperoned, I still dont think she brought the rape on herself. Mike was gonna get him some that night from somebody. She just happened to be there and its terrible what happened to her. I mean the police reports said he bit her pussy in addition to raping her!!! WTF? They had interactions that were not on that brief film. I don't believe anyone brings a rape on themselves, but in this case I don't believe she was raped at ALL. Besides, how can you be a virgin if you accused a former boyfriend of rape??? Nuthin' but game. | |
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