Hell fuckin' yeah I'm responsible for putting myself in that situation. EVERY SINGLE MAN ON THIS PLANET THAT HAS SEX IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SITUATIONS THAT MAY ARISE FROM THAT DECISION. Period. This shit could happen to ANYBODY.

Ya'll tripping cuz you know good and gatdamn well that if you saw a story on the news about 2 unknown people and the woman was raped or even killed in the hotel room of a dude she met earlier that day. The FIRST thing that would come to mind is, "What the hell was she doing in a stranger's hotel room at 3 am?" Does it make what he did right? No. But he wouldn't have been able to do it if SHE didn't put herself in harm's way.

That's how I view this whole Craigslist murder. No reputable masseuse is going to advertise in that joint when EVERYBODY knows what Craigslist is really used for. Did she deserve to die? Hell, no, but I wasn't surprised either.

Hell fuckin' yeah I'm responsible for putting myself in that situation. EVERY SINGLE MAN ON THIS PLANET THAT HAS SEX IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SITUATIONS THAT MAY ARISE FROM THAT DECISION. Period. This shit could happen to ANYBODY.

Had she not gone. NO RAPE/FALSE CLAIM OF RAPE. Can you dispute that?

IG-FUCKING-ZACKLY! - When did I omit MIKE'S responsibility? NEVER. Again, YOU GUYS READ WHAT YOU WANTED TO READ! Again - NOT MY PROBLEM.

But Carrie...you're avoiding my question - Do you have daughters?

This is scary logic to me. Yikes.

Wrong.

This is scary logic to me. Yikes.

SO wrong.

Oh c;mon, SC! LOGIC/COMMON SENSE doesn't come into play! This is about "Going back to a stranger's room" simply because "I do it all the time!"

Ya'll tripping cuz you know good and gatdamn well that if you saw a story on the news about 2 unknown people and the woman was raped or even killed in the hotel room of a dude she met earlier that day. The FIRST thing that would come to mind is, "What the hell was she doing in a stranger's hotel room at 3 am?" Does it make what he did right? No. But he wouldn't have been able to do it if SHE didn't put herself in harm's way.

That's how I view this whole Craigslist murder. No reputable masseuse is going to advertise in that joint when EVERYBODY knows what Craigslist is really used for. Did she deserve to die? Hell, no, but I wasn't surprised either.

Who said they "do it all the time"?

What was said was that this kind of thing happens all the time. Even you admit to doing it.

Nobody is saying that people shouldn't use good/better/wise judgement. Funka's whole premise is that she is responsible for her rape because she chose to be with a man afterhours at his place. We can all agree that certain situations can be dangerous and all that but this is just classic blame the victim.

regardless of whether or not good judgement was used a woman always has the right to say no and not to be raped. I know you're not disputing this but Mutha needs serious lessons on how to get his point accross because that is the logical conclusion of his stance. I'm not the only one who sees that.

I see, your post came off as you saying you were not responsible at all for being accused or rape as you said it was all on HER.

But now I see you say you are partly responsible.

Ok.

I never said anyone does it all the time. And I've had 1 nite stands. Luckily, nothing happened. No claims of rape or prostitution or anything like that!

Which totally begs the questions. WHAT DOES RESPONSIBLITY MEAN TO MUTHA?

It's real simple, Soopstah - Whatever choices I make, bad or good - I'M TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR. Mike was that night. So was Desiree. BOTH were responsible for whatever happened that night.

Well, that's the problem - a lot of women don't wanna take responsibility for THEIR action in cases like this. The solution - Don't take ya fast ass over there in the first place. That GUARANTEES that nothing happens - consensual or not. It's Mike fuckin' Tyson, not Mike fuckin' Jackson.

Show me where ANYONE here said "She deserved to be raped"? No one has said that. All I'm saying is SHE BEARS RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL. She's a grown ass woman. She took her life into her own hands. Mike had NOTHING to do with THAT part of the equation that night.

But her going over to his hotel has absolutely NOTHING to do with being responsible for being raped. She was not "asking" to be raped simply by showing up.
She may have shown up expecting sex and decided he smelled funky, had an ugly penor, whatever. All KINDS of reason for changing her mind.
Or maybe she really thought she was just gonna hang out with Mike Tyson, a cool famous guy she met earlier that day. How exciting to be invited to hang out with him.
None of this means it was OK for him to continue if she said to stop. She bears absolutly NO responsibility for being raped. None. Period.

It's not the woman's fault she's young...a teen. If she was 30..then she should have known better. You can't trust most men at all. Most are lunatics. I don't know how all these women hook up with strange men in a hotel room or other places...they are brave.

I have been to hotel rooms at night with men I hardly knew. I never had the intention to have sex with them. Just because I go to a room hasn't got anything to do with agreeing to sex.

I have been to hotel rooms at night with men I hardly knew. I never had the intention to have sex with them. Just because I go to a room hasn't got anything to do with agreeing to sex.

Like it's "going to Starbucks"

Like it's "going to Starbucks"