JustErin said:

Very true. That IS in fact you're right, especially as an adult. But as a RESPONSIBLE ADULT, you should have enough wisdom, knowledge, and experience to realize that this MAY NOT be a "good situation" by going back to the room WITH A COMPLETE STRANGER. So again, that women BEARS THAT RESPONSIBILITY and she can blame NO ONE ELSE for making that decision. So yes, "No means no" but the better decision is to not even TAKE THAT CHANCE WITH YOUR OWN LIFE to begin with.

JustErin said:

Imagine how many times Casanovafunka had chicks over at 3 A.M!

MuthaFunka said:

That is what I thought.....

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Show me where ANYONE here said "She deserved to be raped"? No one has said that. All I'm saying is SHE BEARS RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL. She's a grown ass woman. She took her life into her own hands. Mike had NOTHING to do with THAT part of the equation that night.

JustErin said:

So you think just because YOU'RE ok with it, then it ISN'T IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR? Oh fuck! Good luck, Erin. For real.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

And they ALL came by on their own regard. THEY took THAT chance. But let's omit women's responsibility to use sound judgment - SIMPLY BECAUSE PEOPLE HOOK UP LIKE THAT ALL THE DAMN TIME!

Graycap23 said:

Isn't that the title of THIS thread?

MuthaFunka said:

Irresponsible behaviour does not grant a hall pass on rape. It does not transfer ANY amount of responsibility of the act of rape from the abuser to the victim. None.

JustErin said:

It doesn't. A person always has the right not to have their body and soul violated.

MuthaFunka said:

But her going over to his hotel has absolutely NOTHING to do with being responsible for being raped. She was not "asking" to be raped simply by showing up.
She may have shown up expecting sex and decided he smelled funky, had an ugly penor, whatever. All KINDS of reason for changing her mind.
Or maybe she really thought she was just gonna hang out with Mike Tyson, a cool famous guy she met earlier that day. How exciting to be invited to hang out with him.
None of this means it was OK for him to continue if she said to stop. She bears absolutly NO responsibility for being raped. None. Period.

MuthaFunka said:

How manys post does the org average before it is off topic?

JustErin said:

Uh, show me where I said "Irresponsible behavior is grounds for rape"? Show me. You can't. I never said that. ALL I said is - THAT WOMAN BEARS RESPONSIBILITY ON WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT. Now, NONE OF US HERE know what happened. ONLY 2 people know. What we DO know is that SHE went over there ON HER OWN to where ANYTHING could've happened to her ass. NO ONE here can dispute that. At all.

CarrieMpls said:

No you didn't just say pen0r

MuthaFunka said:

So because they showed up that gives you the right to rape them?

Cause that's what you're saying here.

MuthaFunka said:

What you describe is called LIFE. Walk on the sidewalk, get hit by an out of control car. Anything can happen to people at anytime. a person always has the right to not be violated, no matter the situation.

CarrieMpls said:

WRONG. She went over there AND THAT PUT HERSELF AT RISK! Period. Also, who said she was raped? You don't know. I don't know. The only 2 people that know are her and Mike.

But you never answered my question that I posed:

Would YOU go to the hotel room at 3AM of a man you just met hours ago?

MuthaFunka said:

You are saying that if this woman was raped, she is partly to blame for that happening.

Is that not what you're saying here?

CarrieMpls said:

Wrong. That's what YOU'RE saying. That's what YOU want to see instead of what's REALLY being said. That's not my problem.

I've always been split on this case. I think she's a pure dumbass for going to his room. But I also know he's a fucking mental case & wouldn't doubt he did rape her, that she did say no at some point & that he just did what the fuck he wanted to do.

The shit is just bad all around. & nobody knows the truth but those 2 idiots...

Graycap23 said:

Depends. What forum?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Bullshit, dawg! So she was just walking down the street and Mike Tyson's dick hopped the curb and went up in her?

MuthaFunka said:

At this point in my life I don't go anywhere at 3 am.

But I have in the past, yes. And I've invited men over to my hotel room that I just met a few hours before.

MuthaFunka said:

The end result of your logic is her showing up puts the responsibility on her. I can understand being a man who has to consider a false accusation but get your head on right with this crap.

JustErin said:

Uh, yes. It's ALWAYS been about the Tyson rape case. SHE made the decision - a dumb one - to go to a strange man's room at 3AM...and damn that "time" she went, the sole fact that she didn't know this dude is enough to NOT venture there.

So, if you're in a bad neighborhood and you get mugged or car-jacked, you are responsible for that happening, cause you shouldn't have been in that nighborhood to begin with, then?

CalhounSq said:

Exactly. BOTH are at fault here.

CarrieMpls said:

Then let me say this...Yo ass got hella lucky and you're hella-fuckin' lucky to still be here. Now, do you have daughters?

CarrieMpls said:

yeah really, just cuz that chick showed up (and i cut her slack for being only 18 at the time) doesn't mean she's easy pickings. she was a naive girl not an experienced woman.

i think she went there to have sex but his kind of sex was not what she had in mind, i think he got rough with her and then it turned into rape. if she was such a hard ass, we would still be hearing from her like we do that funky ass robin givens. That's who Mike should be mad at....the wife that left him! but then again i guess not only is he not a rapist but hes not a spouse beater either.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Bullshit. You're making up your own story. If you haven't yet figured out the discussion, then I can't help you, playa. Done deal.

MuthaFunka said:

Ok, so you're talking about this case. If she was raped, she is partly to blame for that act.

Got it.

But you're also saying, "to go to a strange man's room at 3AM" so that pretty much indicates that you feel this way about any woman that does that (whether this is your intention or not - this is exactly how it's coming off).

Or you're just saying that you somehow feel this way only in regards to this woman?