MuthaFunka said:

Hell No. You need to teach your daughters from birth that men are predators.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Wow. So that sounds like a healthy approach to you?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Agreed.

SCNDLS said:

They won't go to Hotel Rooms at 3 AM will they?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

And they probably won't have any healthy relationships with men either if you take the approach that all men are predators.

SCNDLS said:

I do thnik you need to warn girl in this world we live in, to watch the hell out.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Supa, didn't you just acknowledge that many people need to be taught about not making bad judgements when you said this:

Many people make bad judgement calls because that is all they know. Bringing people out of the darkness of their lives into the light is another way of prevention. for when you help people to be whole they won't be a destroyed person raising more destroyed people.

Do you mean many men or many women? It takes two to tango when it comes to rape. Therefore both parties should take responsibility for their actions, and therefore both parties should be educated. Prevention and education is the best way to deal with it because you're not faced with a big risk.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I agree, but characterizing all men as "predators" is not the best approach IMO.

angel345 said:

Uh, as a gay man I am totally at risk. I know the predatory nature that is within the male race. Unfortunately I've experienced it almost to the point of rape once. Well that time I actually lessened the pain of the experience but I was overpowered and it went to a place I didn't expect it to so I submitted to get through it and over with. So yeah, I can relate.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Also, my philosophy on forgiveness begins with the self. If you never start there you'll never truly get there. I was in an abusive relationship because that was all I knew. When I came out of it I took personal responsibility for my role in staying so yes I agree that a woman would need to come to terms with the fact that she made a bad judgement. That isn't the same as assigning blame because even though I came to terms with my role in that relationship I don't believe that I deserved to get hit or that I was to blame. My responsibility is to myself, not the victimizer.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I agree that once people learn from their mistakes, they would try their best to never let it happen again. Self-healing is part of the process to knowledge. Also, through your experiences, you can educate others.

angel345 said:

This is part of the reason why I've been so vehement. When I got with my ex, even though I had the tide of my history sweeping me towards him, I was innocent and had no idea I was entering an abusive relationship. Like many people I thought his jealousy and all that was a sign he really loved me.

It just hit a trigger because the same people placing responsibility on the rape victim are the same ones blaming the abused. The cries come out to the woman to be smarter when the cries really need to be to the men not to be fucking savages.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

And that's what men have to learn: not to be savage beasts. It just ain't cool.

MuthaFunka said:

thats a trick question cuz you got a lot of skeezers out there and also there is a difference between men and males men can be educated. males can't. women can be educated. skeezing ass heffers can't. just my

DesireeNevermind said:

I believe that knowledge should be dropped to everyone, skeezers and all because people can change once they've realized the error of their ways. If they are set in their ways, at least you can say that you've tried, and they're on their own.

angel345 said:

true true. unfortunately you got a lot of ppl set in their ways.

DesireeNevermind said:

But you do agree that both sexes need to be educated on rape prevention, so that's cool.

MuthaFunka said:

Yes Mutha, i finally see the point you were soooo desperately trying to make. but if a chick comes to your room at 3am, i dont care if shes drunk and sits her pussy smack on yo face, if she says "no", "this isnt right" "i dont have any birth control" "i have to be at work/class in the morning" "i forgot to feed my cat" "do you love me" "whats your name again?" SEND HER THE FUCK HOME AND UNTOUCHED!!!

DesireeNevermind said:

Oh, don't worry - I WILL . But other men?...not so eager to send home "in-house" pussy and even less likely to accept "No" for an answer.

MuthaFunka said:

that's why they need an education. i think supa or erin or whoever cuz i honestly done lost track in this thread, was suggesting that there are probably more of the other men than guys like you who may know better. those other guys honestly can't tell the difference between a lady and a in-house piece and therein lies the problem. those guys be inclined to rape and think nothing of it. if they want the pussy they think they entitled to it regardless of what the pussy owner has to say. i could have expressed that more fancy like but who give a fuck really!

JustErin said:

THANK YOU.

DesireeNevermind said:

The thing is, rape is such a crime of power, and getting through to men that seek and get drunk off of power is one hard-ass thing to do. It's a masogynistic world we live in and there are a ton of men who think they're "entitled" to all things female. It's been like since the start of time and a whole profession was even born from it - prostitition.

If a performer invited me to his hotel room at 3 am I would think some Sexual activity was going to happen and either I would go if I wanted to get Frisky or I'd Decline. She wasn't too smart going over there. What did she think? If he did Rape her it was because as a CELEBRITY he couldn't take no for an answer. Well, he paid for his Crime. And she got money also so it shouldn't even be discussed anymore.

angel345 said:

I said that?



I shall refuse to believe it



This is my third Mike Tyson thread

bboy87 said:

So what are the other two titles, if that's the case?
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A black man who made a $300 million dollar fortune in his career, a mistrial and to this day, many people believes Tyson, including the jury. Someone was out to lynch him, and what if Washington was used as bait, and got paid? Had he stayed with his old girlfriend from Brooklyn who supported and loved him, even when he was in and out of jail, would his life path be more stable? Just my thoughts, and life doesn't always turn out the way you expected. Everything happens for a reason.
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DesireeNevermind said:

Sure, you can lead a horse to the water, but you can't make them drink.

MRGee said:

A rapist doesn't have to be a celeb to not be able to accept "No" for an answer.

Most of us are guilty of living recklessly from time to time. In most cases, we are lucky nothing serious happens. But then again just because nothing "bad" happens or even if something "good" comes from it doesn’t mean we don’t take unnecessary risks for our own pleasure or excitement.

I am not sure about this case. But generally speaking if a girl goes with a stranger to his hotel room at 3:00 A.M., then she’s taking a risk. I would say anyone male or female who puts him/herself in a potentially bad situation is asking for trouble. Most of the time, nothing weird happens. Obviously though, there are exceptions.

No, I don’t think anyone deserves to be raped or be accused of rape. But BOTH Tyson and this girl are responsible for putting themselves in bad situations.

A lot of people crave the excitement of living on the edge. Sometimes, there are consequences. Then again, sometimes there are negative consequences for following the rules, too. Sometimes a person can make all the right or most careful decisions, and bad things still happen.

That said, I would rather not tempt fate too often by putting myself into a bad situation.

lascantas said:

Preach. That. Shit.