According to sources, Carlie Beck, a high school cheerleading coach was fired from her job after parents of one of the children on the cheerleading squad discovered her nude Playboy CyberGirl pictures:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/30305348/




Interestingly enough, the girl and her parents went on the Today show claiming that the cheerleading coach was acting as a bad role model to the students, yet others have indicated that her firing was a revenge hit job because the coach had kicked the girl off of the cheerleading squad for missing three practices without permission, and feeling jilted she went after the coach by exposing her Playboy activities.

Who would have thought that one could take part in LEGAL activities outside of work and get fired for it?

I hope she gets her job back. I know if I was running a school I'd be offering her up several 'positions'.


Sorry. That was rude.








But she's hot.

savoirfaire said:

Total. agree.

Especially since the cheerleaders are probably already living her life without getting paid for it!

savoirfaire said:

No kidding. Messed up.

I can understand why the school fired her. I also think it was an act of revenge on the part of the cheerleader's parents.

who cares if it's legal. A high school employee shouldn't be posing nude.

JerseyKRS said:

Agreed. Whether it's legal or not is really not the issue. The school's primary concern should be with providing a focused learning environment for their students. That's instantly compromised when the students have seen the teacher naked.

violator said:

there it is.

JerseyKRS said:

According to who? I'm sure there are plenty of hot young teachers living in Europe and South America who regularly go topless on the beach and wear thongs that leave little to the imagination, yet no one makes an issue about that. In fact, a lot of schools in Brazil participate in the Carnival parades where the ladies wear practically nothing except very skimpy but elaborate outfits.

Though we Americans like to think we're so enlightened, more often than not our social attitudes are more like the repressive Islamic societies we claim to hate than like the Europeans we claim to have kinship with.

728huey said:

According to you.

You admit that American attitudes towards this sort of thing are less than 'enlightened', so doesn't that support that idea that this would be disruptive to American schoolkids?

consensual sex with an 18 year old is legal as well but not many schools would turn a blind eye to a consensual, legal, sexual relationship between a teacher and a student...I understand that my scenario isn't related to the thread topic, I'm just saying that because it's legal doesn't make it right...people lose jobs all the time for legal conduct...

JerseyKRS said:

That's lame.

roodboi said:

But that's a whole different issue. It's one thing to be having a sexual relationship with one your students at your school, whether you're actually teaching them or not, and posing nude on your free time outside of the confines of school and doing it discreetly. One is a very ethical violation, and the other is a violation a person rights to do what she wants when it is legal for others to do so. They didn't fire any of the McDonald's, Walmart, or Home Depot employees for posing nude in Playboy; as long as this teacher isn't bringing this issue to school with her, why should she be held to a different standard? Ther are teachers who have been busted for drug and alcohol violations outside of school who still have their jobs; why should she lose hers for something that's legal?

I hope she gets her job back.

If I had a Playboy with my hot teacher in it I could probably concentrate better because I wouldn't have sit there day after day imagining what she looked like naked.

728huey said:

Great post, Huey.

728huey said:

I fully understand it's different, I even said so...again, my point is that just because the activity is legal, it isn't protected from scrutiny....the school isnt violating her rights in any way...thats a bit of a stretch...the school and some parents aren't satisfied with her choices and acted as they thought accordingly...there are professions that are held to higher standards, educators are certainly included in that group...let's be real, nobody gives a shit if the cashier at walmart is posing nude...
if there is a school system that allows teachers to keep their jobs after drug and alcohol violations, then they need to review their standards as far as I'm concerned...
look, I personally don't have a problem with her actions but I fully support the school systems decision...you can't honestly believe that she never once considered that this could eventually be a problem...
and like it or not, in this country, posing nude in some folks' mind is definitely an ethical issue...

JustErin said:

Most of the time you can be so logical and well-reasoned...

728huey said:

Since when is posing nude for Playboy considered 'discreet'?

Discreet might be posing nude and posting the pictures to your private MySpace account. Or emailing them to someone in confidence. In no way, shape or form does what she did fit the bill.

JerseyKRS said:

So, what you're saying, and correct me if I'm wrong, but an employer should be allowed to have jurisdiction over our personal lives? Even if one's personal life is in violation of no law?

savoirfaire said:

If what you're doing in your private life has an effect on your employers ability to conduct their business effectively, then yes.

violator said:

thank you for fighting this battle violator. I'm too tired to type, but you're wording it perfectly.

violator said:

Now wait a minute. You're telling me then that a teacher who gets busted for a small drug violation, DUI, or domestic violence dispute off school premises and outside of school activities doesn't affect the school or the school district's ability to conduct its daily activities, but a hot teacher posing naked for a website on her own time does? That's a bunch of bullshit.

And remember that the teacher was fired because this student who violated the rules for being on the cheerleading squad three times got pissed at her because the teacher was actually upholding her rules to begin with. What kind of example does this make when some student who gets into a hissy fit with a teacher can blackmail that same teacher out of a job?

unless in her contract to be a cheerleading coach there was a morality clause then she will get her job back. or a payout.


and now I pose the question... unless you want to live a playboy life, for whom is it NOT a potentially bad decision to pose naked?

JerseyKRS said:

Actually, I was just trying to bait Erin.

violator said:

How is it compromised?

728huey said:

I'm not telling you any such thing. I'm not arguing whether a teachers' drug violations, DUI or domestic violence affect the school's ability to do business. I'm simply saying it's their right to make that determination. It's also the teachers' right to challenge that assertion in court.

You earlier used the word 'jurisdiction'. The school can't tell that teacher that she can't pose naked for Playboy, so I'm not sure that's an appropriate term. But if in doing so it becomes difficult or impossible for her to do the job they pay her to do, then they have to right to fire her for that.

CarrieMpls said:

Seeing how many typical teenage boys already objectify and disrespect women who stay out of softcore publications, I could definitely foresee a scenario where she'd lose the ability to control a classroom full of them.

emm said:

since California is an employment at will state, she'll likely get neither...
In California, employees are presumed to be "at will." At will employees can be terminated for any reason, as long as it's not illegal. Uusually, employees that work under a contract can only be fired for reasons stated in the contract. In California, the at will presumption can be overcome by evidence that despite the absence of a specified term of employment, the parties agreed that the employer's power to terminate would be limited in some way.
Although I certainly don't know the specifics of her employment, I would have a hard time believing the school system doesn't have their bases covered in this situation...




exactly...

violator said:

but shes a cheerleading coach for chica's