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PrintableSupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Just because she is too stupid to recognize this doesn't mean you have to be
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PANDURITO said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Just because she is too stupid to recognize this doesn't mean you have to be
You're just bitter cause you're time has passed to try out for Miss America I won't even lie about it. Hell Yes I am! 
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: PANDURITO said: I must have missed that part  of course you did. Marriage comes with rights, responsibilities and benefits that are only afforded through marriage. Support a ban on equality, you support the denial of rights confered to straight people. Just because she is too stupid to recognize this doesn't mean you have to be Supa, let me ask this... suppose she had said, "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, but I believe in civil unions for gay couples." What would you think about that answer instead? To me that would have been a complete BS answer that is neither here nor there... I find it weird though that the public accepts this BS as being "equal rights" for gays. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: SilverlakePhil said: In her interviews she keeps mentioning her answer comes "from the heart". That remark is what bothers me. That she believes "in her heart" that Gay couples do not deserve the recognition of Marriage and all the rights it entails. A woman like her who probably had dozens of Gays design her clothes, do her makeup,hair, how to walk the runway, etc., basically helped her put her where she is at now, still believes this, because it's not "biblecally correct" baffles me.
Maybe if she can see the lives of hundreds of Gay Couples throughout the world and see that we go through all the same problems that Straights do,like paying the mortgae, raising children, it will change her perspective.I can only hope. She's a princess who has been put on a pedestal because of her looks. She only has to consider herself and she will skate through this life with the easiest of ease. Too bad she can't face the many gay people who helped her in one way or another to get to where she is now. This has little to do with her looks and pretty much everything to do with how fucked up religion is. | |
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JustErin said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: She's a princess who has been put on a pedestal because of her looks. She only has to consider herself and she will skate through this life with the easiest of ease. Too bad she can't face the many gay people who helped her in one way or another to get to where she is now. This has little to do with her looks and pretty much everything to do with how fucked up religion is. Her looks allow her to get away with everything in her life. Religion being fucked up is the icing on the shit cake. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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coolcat said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: of course you did. Marriage comes with rights, responsibilities and benefits that are only afforded through marriage. Support a ban on equality, you support the denial of rights confered to straight people. Just because she is too stupid to recognize this doesn't mean you have to be Supa, let me ask this... suppose she had said, "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, but I believe in civil unions for gay couples." What would you think about that answer instead? To me that would have been a complete BS answer that is neither here nor there... I find it weird though that the public accepts this BS as being "equal rights" for gays. I'd think she was at least civilized 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: JustErin said: This has little to do with her looks and pretty much everything to do with how fucked up religion is. Her looks allow her to get away with everything in her life. Religion being fucked up is the icing on the shit cake. I disagree. Being good looking does not give you everything you want in life. | |
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JustErin said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Her looks allow her to get away with everything in her life. Religion being fucked up is the icing on the shit cake. I disagree. Being good looking does not give you everything you want in life. You're Canadian. It works diffently here 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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JustErin said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Her looks allow her to get away with everything in her life. Religion being fucked up is the icing on the shit cake. I disagree. Being good looking does not give you everything you want in life. That's for damn sure  Otherwise, I'd have EVERYTHING 
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MsMisha319 said: She was ASKED  What's the big deal?
This is going too far Again, Miss What's-her-face (The actual winner), can't be too happy about all this coverage the loser is receiving.
Smooches;) The big deal is that, as I said, if you have to warn folks that what you're about to say is likely to offend, then you shouldn't be saying it...my point of view is from my profession...I'm an equal opportunity advisor....and one of the tenets we preach on endlessly is that if you have to justify or preface a remark, joke, or comment with "no offense", then what you end up doing is the exact opposite....she could've stated her position based on how she really felt, but the FACT that she made it a point to warn of a potential offense being taken shows definitively that her position is one based on a bias against gay folk getting married in the same sense that "regular" people do.... ....nevermind the fact that "regular" folks tend to get divorced with the regularity of the 60 minute hour... [Edited 4/22/09 22:55pm] He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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coolcat said: reneGade20 said: This isn't about me or anyone freaking out about anything Ms. Vapid said or didn't say...I don't give a rats ass that she said what she said.....seriously....but I also know that, like I said, if you have to warn folks that you're about to offend them, then what you're about to say really doesn't need to be said because it's likely going to be OFFENSIVE!! Then should she have said, "I refuse to answer the question" ? or should she have lied? If we want to avoid offending people... then we should stop asking provocative questions... again this isn't about her answer...and as the part of my comment that you chose to quote points out, I really don't give a shit how she feels about the issue....we're all entitled to our opinions....but my problem is that she felt the need to warn folks that she was about to offend them... as a society we NEED to keep asking provacative questions....but instead of cloaking our opinions in religious bullshit and rhetoric, just be straight....her assertion that she was being "biblically" correct is a direct jab at folks who see homosexuality as genetic predisposition instead of as the church sees it being a morally deficient choice... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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reneGade20 said: MsMisha319 said: She was ASKED What's the big deal?
This is going too far Again, Miss What's-her-face (The actual winner), can't be too happy about all this coverage the loser is receiving.
Smooches;) The big deal is that, as I said, if you have to warn folks that what you're about to say is likely to offend, then you shouldn't be saying it...my point of view is from my profession...I'm an equal opportunity advisor....and one of the tenets we preach on endlessly is that if you have to justify or preface a remark, joke, or comment with "no offense", then what you end up doing is the exact opposite....she could've stated her position based on how she really felt, but the FACT that she made it a point to warn of a potential offense being taken shows definitively that her position is one based on a bias against gay folk getting married in the same sense that "regular" people do.... ....nevermind the fact that "regular" folks tend to get divorced with the regularity of the 60 minute hour... [Edited 4/22/09 22:55pm] When you say she shouldn't be saying it... what are you referring to... are you saying she shouldn't have said "no offense" ? | |
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reneGade20 said: MsMisha319 said: She was ASKED What's the big deal?
This is going too far Again, Miss What's-her-face (The actual winner), can't be too happy about all this coverage the loser is receiving.
Smooches;) The big deal is that, as I said, if you have to warn folks that what you're about to say is likely to offend, then you shouldn't be saying it...my point of view is from my profession...I'm an equal opportunity advisor....and one of the tenets we preach on endlessly is that if you have to justify or preface a remark, joke, or comment with "no offense", then what you end up doing is the exact opposite....she could've stated her position based on how she really felt, but the FACT that she made it a point to warn of a potential offense being taken shows definitively that her position is one based on a bias against gay folk getting married in the same sense that "regular" people do.... ....nevermind the fact that "regular" folks tend to get divorced with the regularity of the 60 minute hour... [Edited 4/22/09 22:55pm] YOU get what I meant about the "offend" part. People have the right to their opinion, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to get offended by what they say. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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coolcat said: reneGade20 said: The big deal is that, as I said, if you have to warn folks that what you're about to say is likely to offend, then you shouldn't be saying it...my point of view is from my profession...I'm an equal opportunity advisor....and one of the tenets we preach on endlessly is that if you have to justify or preface a remark, joke, or comment with "no offense", then what you end up doing is the exact opposite....she could've stated her position based on how she really felt, but the FACT that she made it a point to warn of a potential offense being taken shows definitively that her position is one based on a bias against gay folk getting married in the same sense that "regular" people do.... ....nevermind the fact that "regular" folks tend to get divorced with the regularity of the 60 minute hour... [Edited 4/22/09 22:55pm] When you say she shouldn't be saying it... what are you referring to... are you saying she shouldn't have said "no offense" ? Yeah...that's what I'm saying. If she feels that way, good for her..but she set herself up to be called out/questioned/ridiculed by letting everyone know that she was about to say something that somewhere in her head she knew was going to offend someone.... I know that for some it's a grey area...but the central tenet of my job is this simple phrase: IMPACT vs. INTENT...in other words, the speaker's intent (be it joke, remark, or statement of fact) is immaterial to the impact upon the listener...just because you say "no offense intended", it doesn't exonerate you from responsibility if you offend someone... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: reneGade20 said: The big deal is that, as I said, if you have to warn folks that what you're about to say is likely to offend, then you shouldn't be saying it...my point of view is from my profession...I'm an equal opportunity advisor....and one of the tenets we preach on endlessly is that if you have to justify or preface a remark, joke, or comment with "no offense", then what you end up doing is the exact opposite....she could've stated her position based on how she really felt, but the FACT that she made it a point to warn of a potential offense being taken shows definitively that her position is one based on a bias against gay folk getting married in the same sense that "regular" people do.... ....nevermind the fact that "regular" folks tend to get divorced with the regularity of the 60 minute hour... [Edited 4/22/09 22:55pm] YOU get what I meant about the "offend" part. People have the right to their opinion, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to get offended by what they say.  that's cuz I'm C-A-T smart..... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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