http://www.worldstarhipho...6Xl5jRsSPb



[Edited 4/16/09 6:04am]

He doesn't kick the boy. Only pretends to.

That kick looked pretty real to me, although it seemed more impulsive than malicious. The outcome is unfortunate, but I can't say most people wouldn't have reacted the same way. And somewhat more importantly: What that father did was well within legal provisions of defense of his child against immediate physical threat, as I understand it... at least in most areas of the U.S.
[Edited 4/16/09 13:08pm]

The kid does not react like he was kicked, looks to me like punch first ask later. I agree the father has a right to protect his offspring however that kind of reaction to what was obviously not harming his child was uncalled for.

Hope he gets his ass sent to jail

mdiver said:

Give me a fucking break. Somebody kicks my kid it would the same damn result. That guy is to be commended for his actions.

The comments on that post are an interesting contrast to a thread in P&R right now.

http://prince.org/msg/105/305058

Mars23 said:

That is interesting. And it's also unfortunate, because the "race" of anyone in this video is entirely irrelevant. It's a textbook example of legal defense -- nothing more, nothing less.

Lammastide said:

Yep. Now this kid is a "faggot" "cracker" and "retard". Just goes to show there is WAY more ignorance out there than we need.

mdiver said:

You will soon understand how protective a parent is with their children.

You have time to look at the video objectively and analyze the video. But as a parent, if I saw someone walk up to one of my daughters and kick them especially unprovoked (even if it looks like it didn't look like the kid reacted) I would lay them out the same way.

In that situation you have no idea what the intentions of the kid are. Obviously you know that they walked up to another kid and lashed out at them unprovoked. What else are they going to do? Kick again? Punch? Pull out a weapon? All you know for sure is the kid is aggressive without being provoked, and twice the size of the other kid.

Sowhat said:

That is why i said it looks like act first think later.

weused2luvhim said:

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mdiver said:

That is exactly what it is.

But in a situation like that, you really do not have time to sit back and think about it without putting your child in more danger. All you know is another kid twice the size of your own attacked your kid unprovoked. It is a natural reaction for a parent to react immediately to protect their children.

I mean if an intruder broke into your house in the middle of the night would you take the time to question them and their motives or would you react to protect you and your family?

This was a very unfortunate incident that is made even worse because the one kid has a disability.

Sowhat said:

I endeavour to think first, react second, that is not to say i can see no time when it wouldn't happen but look at this situation. The guy was backed away from the kid when he was hit, he wasnt going after him again nor threatening him again, the father could have protected his son just the same by stepping between them, in fact he had FURTHER to go to whack him.

mdiver said:

Again....it is much easier to analize and think about the situation after the fact, especially with the help of video. But in real time things happen so fast. It is instinct to instantly react to protect your kid(s).

You have this big kid who could easily be mistaken for an adult who attacked a toddler less than half his size unprovoked.

He could have just as easily have been a strung out junkie on drugs who could have done real damage or death if the parent had not reacted so fast.

Don't get me wrong, I am not an advocate for violence. But I can understand completely why the Father reacted the way he did.

mdiver said:

Idealistically I'd like to think that I'd be able to assess all those factors (the kicking guy being backed away/me being able to just as effectively stand between my child and the guy...etc).

Realistically, I'm not sure that protective instinct wouldn't kick in (and get the best of me). I think it's much easier to say how we'd handle a situation when we're not "in the moment".

Sad video.

I don't know that I wouldn't have done the same thing. What if the guy had gone further

Sowhat said:

Dont get me wrong...i understand, i just dont agree and would hope that i would react better

mdiver said:

I am in total agreement. If I were in that situation, I would hope that I would have recognized the kids disability and react differently. But that parental instinct to protect is very strong.

if we take some of the comments here to their logical conclusion, then the mother or guardian of the Down Syndrome kid should have immediately beaten the crap out of the father.

of course we all feel protective of children, whether they are ours or not. but there are ways to do so without immediately resorting to violence. the young man could have been seriously hurt.


grammar nazi edit
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IrresistibleB1tch said:

Mars23 said:

Yeah, and the comments against that father on youtube are equally disturbing.
Race has nothing to do with this, if someone walked up on my child trying that...
contact or no contact I would have done the same thing. Don't mess with my kids.

PERIOD. I know the woman with the young man w/ the DS should have kept a closer eye on him to keep him out of trouble. The little kid was lucky, that the foot didn't make direct contact with his nuts because he sure tried to hurt him.
Lucky kid... good dad.... poor young man...that he didn't have a more diligent person looking out to make sure he didn't get that far.

so he just randomly pretends to kick people special needs or not If I was that boys father I would have did the same damn thing. violence isn't key but let someone come that close to my child with an attack...

that kick looks really close and from where the father was standing looks like he was just reacting like most people would have before even realising the child was ok.
[Edited 4/16/09 10:39am]

I would have done the same thing the father did. You gotta protect your family.

I can understand protecting your child but that guy is probably just a fucking punk to begin with. The woman is seen responding right away and is nearly about to address it and he'd be able to tell the boy is down syndrome, which by no means excuses his behavior, but you don't go beating up retarded people. The child wasn't dead and dying, doesn't even look to react. It could have been handled so much better.

If it was some normal kid I'd probably think differently though.
[Edited 4/16/09 11:06am]

Yet we should all be thankful the father didn't carry a gun

PANDURITO said:

mdiver said:

I think he's absolutely right.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Me too, it was an ironic remark though

ok,it looked like the guy really kicked him....I don't blame the father. Even if he was mentally off...

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Exactly.