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PrintableMsMisha319 said: It just isn't attractive to me. It looks dirty and in my opinion, it makes the person look dirty.
Smooches;) Wow... Anyone seen this documentary yet? http://jezebel.com/513709...-good-hair Funnyman Chris Rock tackles a serious subject in his documentary film debuting at the Sundance Film Festival. It's called Good Hair.
While the flick is "loaded" with Rock's "wisecracking humor," he reportedly takes a grave and honest look at the cultural pressures and identity issues that come with having "black hair." Rock explains: "I have daughters, and I'm really dealing with them and their hair a lot, and my friends have daughters, and we talk about our daughters' hair issues." In a Reuters Q&A, Rock adds: "I had no idea of the business of hair. I had no idea that it was as organized as Apple or Microsoft or General Motors. I had no idea the chemicals could be scary and damaging." The film, which is being produced by HBO but may get a theatrical release first, shows "neighborhood salons, businesses dealing in hair-care products and the streets of India, where human hair is a huge export industry for hair weaves." In addition, Rock examines why some African-American women feel they need long, silky, straight hair to fit into white society. Executive producer Nelson George says: "It's this whole thing about approval. That approval is not simply, 'I want white people to love me.' It's like, 'I need a job. I want to move forward, and if I have a hairstyle that is somewhat intimidating, that's going to stop me from moving forward.'" One might wonder whether Rock's perspective — as a man, a father and a comedian — can do justice to a subject he has no first-hand personal experience with. But consider this heartbreaking passage from Good Hair's description on the Sundance site: When Chris Rock’s daughter, Lola, came up to him crying and asked, “Daddy, how come I don’t have good hair?” the bewildered comic committed himself to search the ends of the earth and the depths of black culture to find out who had put that question into his little girl's head! "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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paintedlady said: MsMisha319 said: That's assuming quite a bit, don't you think? My hair actually does not grow out nappy  I have had friends who have worn their hair natural and I've always thought it wasn't attractive. It looks like a rats nest to me 
People are allowed to have opinions. I only shared mine because the question was asked. Smooches;) I was going by your picture that was posted in the cat thread. So I try never to assume.... you look like you wear your hair relaxed. there ARE different textures of "nappy". You can have a loose nap or a tight nap. Nappy just means "tight curl". I myself have a "nap" to my hair.
no assumption there if you consider all that I know and say. I am curious to your answer is all. No need to try to be evasive. Just answer another question since you are so misunderstood. I just want to know why you feel the way you do. Actually, I do not relax my hair. Not every person of color does. I definitely understand the different textures of "nappy". People in my family have all types of hair, from thick, wavy and soft to brittle and dry. I guess the "natural" hair that I see always looks dry and brittle. That's not attractive. My hair is naturally curly, but not tight enough that you can't comb through it. More like I used a small curling iron to create ringlets. Oh, and I don't feel misunderstood. This is the internet. I don't really care too much about what people think or feel about me 
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noimageatall said: MsMisha319 said: It just isn't attractive to me. It looks dirty and in my opinion, it makes the person look dirty.
Smooches;) Wow... Anyone seen this documentary yet? http://jezebel.com/513709...-good-hair Funnyman Chris Rock tackles a serious subject in his documentary film debuting at the Sundance Film Festival. It's called Good Hair.
While the flick is "loaded" with Rock's "wisecracking humor," he reportedly takes a grave and honest look at the cultural pressures and identity issues that come with having "black hair." Rock explains: "I have daughters, and I'm really dealing with them and their hair a lot, and my friends have daughters, and we talk about our daughters' hair issues." In a Reuters Q&A, Rock adds: "I had no idea of the business of hair. I had no idea that it was as organized as Apple or Microsoft or General Motors. I had no idea the chemicals could be scary and damaging." The film, which is being produced by HBO but may get a theatrical release first, shows "neighborhood salons, businesses dealing in hair-care products and the streets of India, where human hair is a huge export industry for hair weaves." In addition, Rock examines why some African-American women feel they need long, silky, straight hair to fit into white society. Executive producer Nelson George says: "It's this whole thing about approval. That approval is not simply, 'I want white people to love me.' It's like, 'I need a job. I want to move forward, and if I have a hairstyle that is somewhat intimidating, that's going to stop me from moving forward.'" One might wonder whether Rock's perspective — as a man, a father and a comedian — can do justice to a subject he has no first-hand personal experience with. But consider this heartbreaking passage from Good Hair's description on the Sundance site: When Chris Rock’s daughter, Lola, came up to him crying and asked, “Daddy, how come I don’t have good hair?” the bewildered comic committed himself to search the ends of the earth and the depths of black culture to find out who had put that question into his little girl's head! That would be a very interesting documentary that I'd love to see. I have always wondered about this "good hair" as well. Though I don't relax my hair and I hate to wear it naturally curly, thus flat ironing it, I have never felt that I had "good hair". In school, I heard it all the time because it was long and I didn't "perm" it. I actually rebelled against that idea as a teenager, by cutting it all off and coloring it. Now, I've come to terms with my hair: the good and the bad. I think people have to do what works for their hair. If wearing it natural works for you, then great. If relaxing it makes you happy, even better. It shouldn't be about what others think. Smooches;) | |
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MsMisha319 said: paintedlady said: I was going by your picture that was posted in the cat thread. So I try never to assume.... you look like you wear your hair relaxed. there ARE different textures of "nappy". You can have a loose nap or a tight nap. Nappy just means "tight curl". I myself have a "nap" to my hair.
no assumption there if you consider all that I know and say. I am curious to your answer is all. No need to try to be evasive. Just answer another question since you are so misunderstood. I just want to know why you feel the way you do. Actually, I do not relax my hair. Not every person of color does. Talk about assumptions!... I know not every person relaxes their hair, hell I used to relax all different people's hair (Jewish, Middle-Eastern, etc.)
If you press n curl, or straighten with heat it will look the same as if you relax the curl with chemicals if the root is curlier than the shaft of the hair. this is why I said that. I definitely understand the different textures of "nappy". People in my family have all types of hair, from thick, wavy and soft to brittle and dry. I guess the "natural" hair that I see always looks dry and brittle. That's not attractive. My hair is naturally curly, but not tight enough that you can't comb through it. More like I used a small curling iron to create ringlets. Oh, and I don't feel misunderstood. This is the internet. I don't really care too much about what people think or feel about me
Smooches;) "the natural texture looks dry and brittle"... that can be true in some cases if the hair isn't conditioned properly.... but curly hair shouldn't look like straight hair. The light just will not reflect the same off of it. Just like dk. brown hair tends to shine more than blond hair. Different hair colors have that effect as well. | |
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damn....i guess hair IS a serious business...y'all bout to come 2 blows over this. Almost better than television. | |
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TonyVanDam said: MuthaFunka said: 
Damn the hair...who is this bad ass muthafucka with all that ay-yass!  Exactly! Hairstyle isn't a factor at all.  Her mammaries look damn good, too! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MsMisha319 said: noimageatall said: That would be a very interesting documentary that I'd love to see. I have always wondered about this "good hair" as well. Though I don't relax my hair and I hate to wear it naturally curly, thus flat ironing it, I have never felt that I had "good hair". In school, I heard it all the time because it was long and I didn't "perm" it. I actually rebelled against that idea as a teenager, by cutting it all off and coloring it. Now, I've come to terms with my hair: the good and the bad. I think people have to do what works for their hair. If wearing it natural works for you, then great. If relaxing it makes you happy, even better. It shouldn't be about what others think. Smooches;) I press n curl my hair.... chopped it all off as a teen and had my friends like "Why'd you do that!!!  " so I can relate. I always hated the notion of
"bad" or "good" hair. I hate when people emphasize that. My family does that too much, and those moms never realize what messed thoughts they place in their daughters and sons heads. | |
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PANDURITO said: paintedlady said: Stop harassing those that want answers.
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paintedlady said: MsMisha319 said: Actually, I do not relax my hair. Not every person of color does. Talk about assumptions!... I know not every person relaxes their hair, hell I used to relax all different people's hair (Jewish, Middle-Eastern, etc.)
If you press n curl, or straighten with heat it will look the same as if you relax the curl with chemicals if the root is curlier than the shaft of the hair. this is why I said that. I definitely understand the different textures of "nappy". People in my family have all types of hair, from thick, wavy and soft to brittle and dry. I guess the "natural" hair that I see always looks dry and brittle. That's not attractive. My hair is naturally curly, but not tight enough that you can't comb through it. More like I used a small curling iron to create ringlets. Oh, and I don't feel misunderstood. This is the internet. I don't really care too much about what people think or feel about me
Smooches;) "the natural texture looks dry and brittle"... that can be true in some cases if the hair isn't conditioned properly.... but curly hair shouldn't look like straight hair. The light just will not reflect the same off of it. Just like dk. brown hair tends to shine more than blond hair. Different hair colors have that effect as well. That's it. Those that I see around me, their natural hair looks like it isn't properly conditioned. It looks dry, brittle and dirty. I never see anyone whose natural hair looks like Lenny Kravitz, ya know? Well maintained. His dreads I actually liked. For the most part, they looked pretty good
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BobGeorge909 said: damn....i guess hair IS a serious business...y'all bout to come 2 blows over this. Almost better than television.
Many women are judged harshly over it... many women are taught to hate themselves for it. Many men diss women for that very reason.... hair texture.  | |
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MuthaFunka said: TonyVanDam said: Exactly! Hairstyle isn't a factor at all. Her mammaries look damn good, too! mmmhmmmm...mammaries as in MAMMA! | |
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BobGeorge909 said: MuthaFunka said: Her mammaries look damn good, too! mmmhmmmm...mammaries as in MAMMA! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: BobGeorge909 said: mmmhmmmm...mammaries as in MAMMA! Lawd..... | |
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paintedlady said: MsMisha319 said: That would be a very interesting documentary that I'd love to see. I have always wondered about this "good hair" as well. Though I don't relax my hair and I hate to wear it naturally curly, thus flat ironing it, I have never felt that I had "good hair". In school, I heard it all the time because it was long and I didn't "perm" it. I actually rebelled against that idea as a teenager, by cutting it all off and coloring it. Now, I've come to terms with my hair: the good and the bad. I think people have to do what works for their hair. If wearing it natural works for you, then great. If relaxing it makes you happy, even better. It shouldn't be about what others think. Smooches;) I press n curl my hair.... chopped it all off as a teen and had my friends like "Why'd you do that!!! " so I can relate. I always hated the notion of
"bad" or "good" hair. I hate when people emphasize that. My family does that too much, and those moms never realize what messed thoughts they place in their daughters and sons heads. I agree 
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noimageatall said: I had to go here...
they all used texturizers!!
why you think it look so acid wet like that? [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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noimageatall said: I had to go here...
LOL! That's a whole 'nother natural.... 
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paintedlady said: Nappy - over curly hair, usually fine (superfine in most cases) in texture. The most delicate hair, which needs the most TLC.
So people, please stop thinking "bad" or "coarse" when it comes to nappy hair. If you see a person with a loose curl, don't call it "pretty" hair in comparison to the curlier (nappier) variety, ALL hair is pretty when its properly maintained. Nappy hair is the most versatile hair, also the hardest to grow long since its so fine it tends to break. Be proud to be nappy all you beautiful brothas and sistas (and a few of you Jewish people too ).  You're right, the Jewish female physician in the office where I work has "nappy" hair. It is very frizzy, and guess what? So is her mother's hair. Her mother's hair looks like a swept up afro. The physician I'm talking about, her hair is frizzy every, single day. One time she had it straightened and blow-dried and she hated it, although it did look nice. I'm not kidding. I see quite a number of white males and females with "frizzy" hair textures. Also, some Hispanics, and Egyptians as well. It is true, kinky, nappy does go further than African-Americans who have this type of hair texture. Just look at Hugo Chavez's hair. Interesting to say the least. [Edited 4/18/09 17:57pm] | |
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noimageatall said: Clean enough for me.
Girl, you better stop posting those fine brothas' pics.....  | |
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2elijah said: paintedlady said: Nappy - over curly hair, usually fine (superfine in most cases) in texture. The most delicate hair, which needs the most TLC.
So people, please stop thinking "bad" or "coarse" when it comes to nappy hair. If you see a person with a loose curl, don't call it "pretty" hair in comparison to the curlier (nappier) variety, ALL hair is pretty when its properly maintained. Nappy hair is the most versatile hair, also the hardest to grow long since its so fine it tends to break. Be proud to be nappy all you beautiful brothas and sistas (and a few of you Jewish people too ). You're right, the Jewish female physician in the office I work has "nappy" hair. It is very frizzy, and guess what? So is her mother's hair. Her mother's hair looks like a swept up afro. The physician I'm talking about, her hair is frizzy every, single day. One time she had it straightened and blow-dried and she hated it, although it did look nice. I'm not kidding. I see quite a number of white males and females with "frizzy" hair textures. Also, some Hispanics, and Egyptians as well. It is true, kinky, nappy does go further than African-Americans who have this type of hair texture. Just look at Hugo Chavez's hair. Interesting to say the least. [Edited 4/18/09 17:41pm]
It is also normal for most people to have at least 3-6 different textures in their own heads as well. Some can have a tighter nap in the crown, or below the occipital bone. In my head, my middle-back left quadrant is nappier than the rest. | |
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2elijah said: noimageatall said: Clean enough for me.
Girl, you better stop posting those fine brothas' pics..... Don't listen to Duecy... keep the fine brotha's coming!!!  | |
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paintedlady said: BobGeorge909 said: damn....i guess hair IS a serious business...y'all bout to come 2 blows over this. Almost better than television.
Many women are judged harshly over it... many women are taught to hate themselves for it. Many men diss women for that very reason.... hair texture. Not to mention how young girls are pressured when it comes to hair. Some girls in my niece's class took a scissors and cut off 5 inches of her hair. Her mother had her hair in braids. My niece's hair is long to the middle of her back. Her hair texture is like Ananda Lewis, and she is dark-skinned. Problem is, people have this assumption that when they see darker-skinned women with long hair or in braids, they assume it's not their hair. They immediately thought my niece was wearing extensions. My sister was pissed when her daughter came home and told her what those girls did, and had to go up to the school the next day and talk to the teacher. Question is, why'd they have to do that in the first place. A shame isn't it? All for hair. [Edited 4/18/09 17:55pm] | |
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paintedlady said: 2elijah said: Girl, you better stop posting those fine brothas' pics..... Don't listen to Duecy... keep the fine brotha's coming!!! I was being sarcastic because the pics are beautiful... | |
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paintedlady said: 2elijah said: You're right, the Jewish female physician in the office I work has "nappy" hair. It is very frizzy, and guess what? So is her mother's hair. Her mother's hair looks like a swept up afro. The physician I'm talking about, her hair is frizzy every, single day. One time she had it straightened and blow-dried and she hated it, although it did look nice. I'm not kidding. I see quite a number of white males and females with "frizzy" hair textures. Also, some Hispanics, and Egyptians as well. It is true, kinky, nappy does go further than African-Americans who have this type of hair texture. Just look at Hugo Chavez's hair. Interesting to say the least. [Edited 4/18/09 17:41pm]
It is also normal for most people to have at least 3-6 different textures in their own heads as well. Some can have a tighter nap in the crown, or below the occipital bone. In my head, my middle-back left quadrant is nappier than the rest. Really? I had no idea, but then again, I did notice one side of my hair is thicker than the other side, so I guess you're right. | |
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2elijah said: paintedlady said: Many women are judged harshly over it... many women are taught to hate themselves for it. Many men diss women for that very reason.... hair texture. Not to mention how young girls are pressured when it comes to hair. Some girls in my niece's class took a scissors and cut off 5 inches of her hair. Her mother had her hair in braids. My niece's hair is long to the middle of her back. Her hair texture is like Ananda Lewis, and she is dark-skinned. Problem is, people have this assumption that when they see darker-skinned women with long hair or in braids, they assume it's not their hair. My sister was pissed when her daughter came home and told her that, and had to go up to the school the next day and talk to the teacher. A shame isn't it? All for hair. Damn shame, that's awful. The abuse that some knuckleheads put girls through. Unbelievable!
My Aunts/cousins treat my daughter better than my niece... all because of hair texture. disgusting. | |
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2elijah said: paintedlady said:
It is also normal for most people to have at least 3-6 different textures in their own heads as well. Some can have a tighter nap in the crown, or below the occipital bone. In my head, my middle-back left quadrant is nappier than the rest. Really? I had no idea, but then again, I did notice one side of my hair is thicker than the other side, so I guess you're right. The differences are subtle, but they are there. Same reason why most hairdressers start relaxing the "edges" or the nape of the neck first. | |
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paintedlady said: 2elijah said: Not to mention how young girls are pressured when it comes to hair. Some girls in my niece's class took a scissors and cut off 5 inches of her hair. Her mother had her hair in braids. My niece's hair is long to the middle of her back. Her hair texture is like Ananda Lewis, and she is dark-skinned. Problem is, people have this assumption that when they see darker-skinned women with long hair or in braids, they assume it's not their hair. My sister was pissed when her daughter came home and told her that, and had to go up to the school the next day and talk to the teacher. A shame isn't it? All for hair. Damn shame, that's awful. The abuse that some knuckleheads put girls through. Unbelievable!
My Aunts/cousins treat my daughter better than my niece... all because of hair texture. disgusting. That's the way I feel about my Mother. For years it seems other people always went crazy over her hair. My mother has always had long ass hair down to the middle of her back. She's in her 80s now and wears it in two long braids across her chest. Now my mom never really had to perm her hair, but she chose to, because her hair texture is thick, and she's very tender-headed, so perms worked for her in the manageability department. But, it seems people were always infatuated with her hair. For goodness sakes, it's just hair. My friends, her friends, other people over the years that met her, always praised her for her hair. Now they do the same thing to some of my nieces. It's ridiculous. [Edited 4/18/09 20:12pm] | |
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