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Born in the wrong body... has anyone seen this show on MSNBC? How do you think you would handle it if your spouse said to you one day "I want to be a Man/Woman" ? Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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EmeraldSkies said: has anyone seen this show on MSNBC? How do you think you would handle it if your spouse said to you one day "I want to be a Man/Woman" ?
i could i mean. i mean if i had a partner. i think i would fall in love with them not their genitals. i mean if they change gender they still remain the same personality. i don't know does that make me pansexual? i thought i bordered asexuality.. [Edited 4/18/09 11:19am] [Edited 4/18/09 11:19am] | |
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baroque said: EmeraldSkies said: has anyone seen this show on MSNBC? How do you think you would handle it if your spouse said to you one day "I want to be a Man/Woman" ?
i could i mean. i mean if i had a partner. i think i would fall in love with them not their genitals. i mean if they change gender they still remain the same personality. i don't know does that make me pansexual? i thought i bordered asexuality.. [Edited 4/18/09 11:19am] [Edited 4/18/09 11:19am] What he said. Wouldn't bother me any. More likely than not it'd take me by surprise, but I'd adjust. If I really loved the person it wouldn't be for what's between their legs anyway. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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People divorce over loud snoring or bad smell but they'll gladly accept sex change, right | |
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That would be the end of the sexual relationship if it was someone I was with. I want the junk to stay put. I'd still maintain the close friendship as much as possible, or at least I'd try. I'm sure I wouldn't stop caring about this hypothetical person, but the relationship would pretty much be over once the frank and beans were gone. [Edited 4/18/09 14:47pm] | |
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PANDURITO said: People divorce over loud snoring or bad smell but they'll gladly accept sex change, right I honestly would. And not just because I dig boys and girls equally, either. If I loved someone, it wouldn't be for what was between their legs but for who they are. Though to be honest, if the person in question was just a bed buddy I might dump them, since in that case is would be the body I was after. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: PANDURITO said: People divorce over loud snoring or bad smell but they'll gladly accept sex change, right I honestly would. And not just because I dig boys and girls equally, either. If I loved someone, it wouldn't be for what was between their legs but for who they are. Though to be honest, if the person in question was just a bed buddy I might dump them, since in that case is would be the body I was after. think about it like this the point of sex is climaxing and having a good time. regardless of what the person has both people can reach to that point. hell even without genitals in question. i just assume it felt better when your in love with the person regardless of what gender they happen to be. this is also in response to pandurito. [Edited 4/18/09 17:24pm] | |
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PANDURITO said: People divorce over loud snoring or bad smell but they'll gladly accept sex change, right see in that case sex was the majority of the relationship. of course people need to divorce over superficial shit like that. | |
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Yes, but the case we're discussing is admitting your beloved one has been always lying to you.
You don't wake up one day and decide you were born in the wrong body. So...Is a long term lie acceptable in a relationship? | |
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I'd be sympathetic towards him or her. | |
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EmeraldSkies said: I honestly would'nt be able to stay in the relationship. They might still be the person that you fell in love inside,but I am not physically attracted to women,so it be like having a relationship with someone that is now trapped in the shell of someone that you don't recognize anymore. We could stay friends,but that would be it for me.
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I honestly would'nt be able to stay in the relationship. They might still be the person that you fell in love inside,but I am not physically attracted to women,so it be like having a relationship with someone that is now trapped in the shell of someone that you don't recognize anymore. We could stay friends,but that would be it for me. Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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what can i say? i'm a gay bottom. i'd always love him, but i need a dick Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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Well, if my spouse was a man, it would be kind of cool to have a vagina to fuck.
I rather like vaginas. If my spouse was a woman, there's still an asshole I guess. But honestly, it would be more than I could handle. I'd have to leave them. I'd feel really bad about it, but I've been left for far less. I wonder how marriages normally end in situations like this? | |
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baroque said: meow85 said: I honestly would. And not just because I dig boys and girls equally, either. If I loved someone, it wouldn't be for what was between their legs but for who they are. Though to be honest, if the person in question was just a bed buddy I might dump them, since in that case is would be the body I was after. think about it like this the point of sex is climaxing and having a good time. regardless of what the person has both people can reach to that point. hell even without genitals in question. i just assume it felt better when your in love with the person regardless of what gender they happen to be. this is also in response to pandurito. [Edited 4/18/09 17:24pm] That is very much true. However, if I'm with someone just for the sex chances are what they do or don't have played into the attraction for me. Love with sex is a great idea but IMO it's not necessary to have fun. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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cborgman said: what can i say? i'm a gay bottom. i'd always love him, but i need a dick
No offense, it just came off (no pun intended) sounding funny. | |
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iinthesky85 said: cborgman said: what can i say? i'm a gay bottom. i'd always love him, but i need a dick
No offense, it just came off (no pun intended) sounding funny. it was meant to Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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cborgman said: what can i say? i'm a gay bottom. i'd always love him, but i need a dick
LMFAO! So with you on needin dick, but regardless of position, there's just one type of lovebelow-hole I'm willin to diddle. [Edited 4/19/09 20:09pm] | |
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Imago said: Well, if my spouse was a man, it would be kind of cool to have a vagina to fuck.
I rather like vaginas. If my spouse was a woman, there's still an asshole I guess. But honestly, it would be more than I could handle. I'd have to leave them. I'd feel really bad about it, but I've been left for far less. I wonder how marriages normally end in situations like this? I know a lesbian couple, one partner of which underwent procedures to become male. His partner at first was shocked! It effectively put her into an opposite-sex relationship, which she NEVER thought she'd be in! But things worked out. They've been together for years now and they recently bore a child with help from a donor friend. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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I would probably leave. Because I feel that the person knew about how they felt before we got together. I just think its rather selfish for that person to get involved in a relationship when they are not sure about themself. | |
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johnart said: cborgman said: what can i say? i'm a gay bottom. i'd always love him, but i need a dick
LMFAO! So with you on needin dick, but regardless of position, there's just one type of lovebelow-hole I'm willin to diddle. [Edited 4/19/09 20:09pm] I just don't know. But it would definitely be a test of all tests. | |
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I'm gay and married to a woman. I am naturally inclined toward a sort of male aesthetic, sensibility, unnamable energy, yet part of what I've come to love about my wife is the way she wears her individual femininity. If she one day resolved that she'd live a more fulfilling life as a male, I'd support her... but I honestly don't know if I'd be capable of sustaining a partnership. The sum of what my spouse currently is would be substantively "recalculated," if that makes sense. And I don't know if I'd be struck by that new combination. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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johnart said: cborgman said: what can i say? i'm a gay bottom. i'd always love him, but i need a dick
LMFAO! So with you on needin dick, but regardless of position, there's just one type of lovebelow-hole I'm willin to diddle. [Edited 4/19/09 20:09pm] top, you have no idea... Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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I feel ya chris I guess I am shallow too, I mean I have girlfriends and gay friends already. I need a husband and even though I'd still love him/her, the marriage would be over and I'd be looking for more dick and husband lovin also sometimes people lie to themselves for far longer than they should.It's really not about the partner in the relationship. Can you imagine how hard is must be to finally admit that to yourself, knowing that the people in your life will be affected and may abandon you for it? I don't think that is selfish, I think that is fear.I know that would scare the shit outta me. Once the fear has been conquered the level of emancipation must be mind blowing. No I don't think that is selfish at all really, sad more than anything. We all should know that diversity makes for a rich tapestry, and we must understand that all the threads of the tapestry are equal in value no matter what their color. Maya Angelou | |
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Lammastide said: Imago said: Well, if my spouse was a man, it would be kind of cool to have a vagina to fuck.
I rather like vaginas. If my spouse was a woman, there's still an asshole I guess. But honestly, it would be more than I could handle. I'd have to leave them. I'd feel really bad about it, but I've been left for far less. I wonder how marriages normally end in situations like this? I know a lesbian couple, one partner of which underwent procedures to become male. His partner at first was shocked! It effectively put her into an opposite-sex relationship, which she NEVER thought she'd be in! But things worked out. They've been together for years now and they recently bore a child with help from a donor friend. You were one of those persons, weren't you? This is the org. You have nothing to hide. | |
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Imago said: Lammastide said: I know a lesbian couple, one partner of which underwent procedures to become male. His partner at first was shocked! It effectively put her into an opposite-sex relationship, which she NEVER thought she'd be in! But things worked out. They've been together for years now and they recently bore a child with help from a donor friend. You were one of those persons, weren't you? This is the org. You have nothing to hide. I'd have remained a woman. They've got better wardrobe choices. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Lammastide said: Imago said: You were one of those persons, weren't you? This is the org. You have nothing to hide. I'd have remained a woman. They've got better wardrobe choices. that story is just so hardcore. I'd stop my romantic relationship but never my intimate one. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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butterfli25 said: I feel ya chris
I guess I am shallow too, I mean I have girlfriends and gay friends already. I need a husband and even though I'd still love him/her, the marriage would be over and I'd be looking for more dick and husband lovin also sometimes people lie to themselves for far longer than they should.It's really not about the partner in the relationship. Can you imagine how hard is must be to finally admit that to yourself, knowing that the people in your life will be affected and may abandon you for it? I don't think that is selfish, I think that is fear.I know that would scare the shit outta me. Once the fear has been conquered the level of emancipation must be mind blowing. No I don't think that is selfish at all really, sad more than anything. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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EmeraldSkies said: has anyone seen this show on MSNBC? How do you think you would handle it if your spouse said to you one day "I want to be a Man/Woman" ?
well, i'm lucky. i've worked with the TG community and i've taken workshops and read books and so on. it's not something i consider shocking or transgressive. of course, i would naturally freak out more than just a bit if my partner came to me with the news that he wanted to be a she, and it would certainly effect the future of our relationship, but i would hope however we decide to let the decision alter our relationship would be done in a way where i could still honor and support my partner, regardless of whatever. [Edited 4/20/09 19:22pm] | |
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EmeraldSkies said: has anyone seen this show on MSNBC? How do you think you would handle it if your spouse said to you one day "I want to be a Man/Woman" ?
For one thing, he would have to start shaving his legs. The Normal Whores Club | |
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