meow85 said:

I'm not sure I buy the "barely legal" thing as a "phenomenon."

As someone else on this thread noted, we're probably genetically programmed to be sexally attracted to people in their mid-to-late teens and early 20's. These are, after all, the prime reproductive years, when our bodies are best able to handle it and seek it out and produce the best offspring that we can.

To me it's not about the law, though clearly the law is important if you don't want your ass thrown in prison. There's no doubt a 15 or 16 year old can be physically attractive, but if you're in your twenties it's creepy lusting after such a girl since you're an adult and while their body may be that of an adult, they're basically a child. Lusting after a 'barely legal' 18 year old when you're 21 yourself? Fair enough, but where do you draw the line? It points towards something a little disconcerting, in the words used, in the angle that's pushed, in the nature of the appeal. How about a 50 year old lusting after an 18 year old? I find that quite creepy from a moral standpoint, but it's legal, and understandable up to a point. At 27 I've no interest in a 'barely legal' 18 year old, though I may find some 18 year olds attractive. I think it's about where you're coming from. In the UK haven't we had topless models on page 3 of tabloid newspapers who were legally able to be there once 16 (so they made a big fuss about the date of their birthday when they could legally pose topless)? That's dodgy. The older I get the more I view girls of that age, even up to 21, more as if they were my potential daughter in the near future, or hypothetical younger sister, rather than someone to lust after, and like I said, I'm only 27 myself. Sex involving adults is for adults and while young teens are sexually active I don't think that makes it ok to sexualize them at every opportunity (in movies, on TV, in music etc.), knowingly pushing the angle of their youth. When a guy's lusting after an 18 year old, is it because she's young and so more youthful and attractive because of it (most want this, right?) or is it solely because she's young?

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Imago said:

Can you be a 20 year old hippie for me?

I'm confident some of you folks are waiting on Dave1992 to reach 18 years of age

meow85 said:

bboy87 said:

To me it's not about the law, though clearly the law is important if you don't want your ass thrown in prison. There's no doubt a 15 or 16 year old can be physically attractive, but if you're in your twenties it's creepy lusting after such a girl since you're an adult and while their body may be that of an adult, they're basically a child. Lusting after a 'barely legal' 18 year old when you're 21 yourself? Fair enough, but where do you draw the line? It points towards something a little disconcerting, in the words used, in the angle that's pushed, in the nature of the appeal. How about a 50 year old lusting after an 18 year old? I find that quite creepy from a moral standpoint, but it's legal, and understandable up to a point. At 27 I've no interest in a 'barely legal' 18 year old, though I may find some 18 year olds attractive. I think it's about where you're coming from. In the UK haven't we had topless models on page 3 of tabloid newspapers who were legally able to be there once 16 (so they made a big fuss about the date of their birthday when they could legally pose topless)? That's dodgy. The older I get the more I view girls of that age, even up to 21, more as if they were my potential daughter in the near future, or hypothetical younger sister, rather than someone to lust after, and like I said, I'm only 27 myself. Sex involving adults is for adults and while young teens are sexually active I don't think that makes it ok to sexualize them at every opportunity (in movies, on TV, in music etc.), knowingly pushing the angle of their youth. When a guy's lusting after an 18 year old, is it because she's young and so more youthful and attractive because of it (most want this, right?) or is it solely because she's young?

shit. Meow85 got me being the dirty old man I've been complaining about

meow85 said:

meow85 said:

Fauxie said:

Judging from the way words like "barely legal" and even "teen" are emphasised in that kind or porn, I'm guessing the appeal is more because the actress or model is so young.

Fauxie said:

Madonna returns to Jesus

Madonna is back in the arms of 22-year-old Brazilian model Jesus Luz, who is comforting the singer after her failed adoption bid.


Madonna has reunited with Jesus Luz.

The '4 Minutes' singer was photographed holding hands with the 22-year-old Brazilian model at a Kabbalah centre in New York yesterday (16.04.09).

The couple - who were rumored to have split last month after Madonna refused to meet her lover's mother - were later spotted having dinner at exclusive Manhattan restaurant Morandi.

An onlooker said: "Madonna couldn't wipe the smile off her face and was clearly glad to have Jesus around again."

The 50-year-old star was left devastated when a Malawian judge rejected her bid to adopt four-year-old orphan Mercy James two weeks ago.

She reportedly didn't eat for days, was seen sobbing in public and even gave up her grueling exercise regime.

A source said: "Madonna attended a Passover dinner in London held by members of her Kabbalah faith and broke down in tears about Mercy.

"She has abandoned her strict macrobiotic diet and has even stopped training since she returned from Malawi and seems to be in a trance a lot of the time. She has already dropped 5 lbs."

Madonna's spirits are said to have been boosted since she rekindled her romance with Jesus.

Another source added: "She has been through heartache and it made her re-evaluate what's important. She missed her man."

Madonna has appealed the court's ruling on the adoption.

meow85 said:

Yes. Though not so much is so young, but looks so young. I think they're after girls who look younger than legal age even if they're pushing the 'just 18' aspect. 18, legal, but looks 16 = perfect? What could be better for someone looking for that? A genuine 16 year old. Shaky ground, no doubt. How about if they were 18 but somehow looked 14 or 15? It's dodgy to me that some could be comfortable getting aroused by that because of being able to justify themselves legally. Plenty of ppl are pushing this. It may all be above board with the law but morally I think it's fucked.