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PrintableVendetta1 said: Cinnie said: I'm not comfortable with "commendable" but certainly understandable, which some of you deny even that much. As if you would be sooo cool with the same situation.
Sorry Cinnie but it is not understandable to me. I do not use violence to solve my problems. As I said before, I am raising a violent child. so violent, I would not take him into social situations because of the public's ignorance. If you guys think what that dad did is okay, what a sorry state the world is in.
"Hi there, ahh ma'am? yeah over here if I could pull your attention away from the cashier for a moment. Yeah, see I didn't want to be the one to stop your DS son from kicking my son, so I just yeah, yep he just kicked him again... anyway I just wanted you to know I am soooo cool with all of this and understand what raising a DS son 3 times the size of my toddler must be. It takes a village but I was wondering if I could be your new husband and help you raise your family. I'm from the org... we don't fight, we only love to make things better." [Edited 4/19/09 20:24pm] And with that, I really am outta here. But should the public really be held accountable to be knowledgeable of your child's condition and violence? Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: LiquidGold said: What did the toddler do wrong? That's not the point. EVERY PARENT needs to keep tabs on their kids at all times especially considering the kind of world we live. He did. The kid walked up to the counter and his father was behind him. I have a nephew that age. If my nephew walked in and ran to the the counter and I'm right behind him with my eye on him, what's the problem? Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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Sowhat said: GetAwayFromMe said: Against my better judgment, I'll put it my two cents. Ready?
The guy is a total fucking idiot and anyone who believes that his reaction was just is as idiotic as he is, and I hope you do not have kids. If you do, stay the FUCK away from me with your violence. I'd have that guys ass thrown in jail so fast it wouldn't even be funny. He's a criminal, a scumbag...who assaulted what looks to me like a minor child. I cannot believe that a lot of you have this violent mentality, it's really quite pathetic. As long as you leave my kids alone we're cool. If you ever touched one of my kids like he did, I wouldn't do the same, I'd send your ass to jail and then sue the shit out of you. | |
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If that was my kid,
i would have picked him up by the ankles and swung him hitting the DS's mom dead in the face. Then jumped over the counter and demanded the cash from the registers. After that i would have filled a cup from the fountain with some Dr.Pepper , then hopped in my car and head straight to my nearest dealer and picked up a 1/4Ooz. From there stop at the 7/11 on the way home for some papers. To make a thief, make an owner; to create crime, create laws. | |
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GetAwayFromMe said: Sowhat said: As long as you leave my kids alone we're cool. If you ever touched one of my kids like he did, I wouldn't do the same, I'd send your ass to jail and then sue the shit out of you. The response isn't even close to equivalent of anything that was done. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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TonyVanDam said: JustErin said: But why do you feel the need to know exactly what someone would say or do? Isn't hearing that they know what they wouldn't do enough? Anyway, here's what I would do. I would be angry, believe me...I would. I would immediately go over and push the kid away or grab my son away or get in between, probably yelling, "Hey!" or something along those lines. But no way in hell would I react the way this father did. That is very easy (but understandable) for you to say that because you're not a man. Also, you can never ever begin to understand what it might be like to be a man who just witnessed some guy (normal, DS, whatever) kicking your son, your male heir to your throne (symbolically speaking). . [Edited 4/20/09 23:44pm] | |
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I find it interesting how some on this thread have ignored other orgers responses that actually have children that have a disability like Down Syndrome.
The personal attacks are ignorant and uncalled for. I guess some will say anything to excuse violence against another human being. The whole, if you do not use violence or force back then you are a pussy bs amazes me. Those are the same ppl that complain about society going to shit. 
No one really knows for sure what they would do in this situation unless they were actually in it. I am with Irresistible Bitch all of the way, as usual, she uses common sense and rationality with regards to this situation. [Edited 4/21/09 4:21am] | |
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shanti0608 said: I find it interesting how some on this thread have ignored other orgers responses that actually have children that have a disability like Down Syndrome.
I personally have not ignored their responses. I feel horrible for the boy with DS who got hit. He probably had no idea what he did was wrong. But my point of view is that with everything happening so fast, my guess is the Father did not even notice that the kid had DS until after the fact. shanti0608 said: The personal attacks are ignorant and uncalled for.
100% agree. shanti0608 said: I guess some will say anything to excuse violence against another human being.
I don't see this as random violence against another person. I see it as an instant response by a Father protecting his child from someone who attacked his son unprovoked in a violent manner. shanti0608 said: The whole, if you do not use violence or force back then you are a pussy bs amazes me.
I may have missed a post or two but I didn't see that here on this thread. shanti0608 said: Those are the same ppl that complain about society going to shit.
I believe this is an Apples to Oranges type situation. Protection vs violence for violonce sake or violence to prove a point or get your way. shanti0608 said: No one really knows for sure what they would do in this situation unless they were actually in it.
Exactly!!! shanti0608 said: [I am with Irresistible Bitch all of the way, as usual, she uses common sense and rationality with regards to this situation.
Again, common sense and rationallity with time to sit back, digest the situation, think about it and then respond. In reality none of us here really know what was going on in the Fathers mind when he responded. At what point did the Father realize the boy had DS? What level of danger did the Father think his son was in? Did the boy with DS threaten the little boy? When the little boy was kicked, even though he did not physically react, did he say anything like "Ouch!" or "Daddy!" or "Help me!"? Does the little boy have any kind of medical conditions that make him very delicate? Did the Father think his son was kicked harder than he was? Etc..... "Always blessings, never losses......"
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Sowhat said: shanti0608 said: I find it interesting how some on this thread have ignored other orgers responses that actually have children that have a disability like Down Syndrome.
I personally have not ignored their responses. I feel horrible for the boy with DS who got hit. He probably had no idea what he did was wrong. But my point of view is that with everything happening so fast, my guess is the Father did not even notice that the kid had DS until after the fact. Exactly!!! shanti0608 said: [I am with Irresistible Bitch all of the way, as usual, she uses common sense and rationality with regards to this situation.
Again, common sense and rationallity with time to sit back, digest the situation, think about it and then respond. In reality none of us here really know what was going on in the Fathers mind when he responded. At what point did the Father realize the boy had DS? What level of danger did the Father think his son was in? Did the boy with DS threaten the little boy? When the little boy was kicked, even though he did not physically react, did he say anything like "Ouch!" or "Daddy!" or "Help me!"? Does the little boy have any kind of medical conditions that make him very delicate? Did the Father think his son was kicked harder than he was? Etc..... Thanks for your response. I was not pointing a finger at you, that is why I said "some". I think you can have common sense and think rationally even in an emergency/crisis situation.  [Edited 4/21/09 8:25am] | |
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I think he should have realised the guy had DS and was probably not normally functioning.[Snip -Mars23] So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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