I'm not comfortable with "commendable" but certainly understandable, which some of you deny even that much. As if you would be sooo cool with the same situation.

"Hi there, ahh ma'am? yeah over here if I could pull your attention away from the cashier for a moment. Yeah, see I didn't want to be the one to stop your DS son from kicking my son, so I just yeah, yep he just kicked him again... anyway I just wanted you to know I am soooo cool with all of this and understand what raising a DS son 3 times the size of my toddler must be. It takes a village but I was wondering if I could be your new husband and help you raise your family. I'm from the org... we don't fight, we only love to make things better."
[Edited 4/19/09 20:24pm]

Cinnie said:

Cinnie said:

It scary to think that people seriously think punching the shit outta him or the silliness above are the only options with dealing with the situation.

But I guess I'm not surprised. Many people seem to just think in extremes all the time.

ThreadBare said:

I'm just not surprised, is all.

Cinnie said:

Sorry Cinnie but it is not understandable to me. I do not use violence to solve my problems. As I said before, I am raising a violent child. so violent, I would not take him into social situations because of the public's ignorance. If you guys think what that dad did is okay, what a sorry state the world is in.

And with that, I really am outta here.

as a mother of a DS child ...you cant always have your eyes on them 24/7..it is a difficult job..the kick was wrong..but what is this MAN teaching his 4 year old son by slamming to the ground the person that slightly kicked his son????? if i were the mother of that DS child i would have called the police..he assaulted the DS child/man (however old he is)...however wrong the kick was this father of the 4 year old reacted with violence he is obviously a violent man

anyway that is all for me

too many posts on this thread of people who HAVE NO CLUE ..

if anyone (disabled or not) kicked my child like that i would see if my child was ok FIRST then talk to the person who did it....

Vendetta1 said:

I'm about to be outta here too. I feel like I went through this fight from every perspective here and it is tiring all around. I was defending one side partially to hear the reasoning that should have been used and no one can come up with it.

JustErin said:

Well, no one who said they would briefly reason the situation verbally has actually typed out the words they would use in this situation, so I was hoping typing that silliness would make someone tell me what they really meant. So far no one has. IrresistibleB1tch came close.

mdiver said:

What a fucking shitty thing to say. Like you know anyone's "core" anything based on this one weird situation.

TonyVanDam said:

Ok, whatever you say

Cinnie said:

Well unless you don't post what you actually believe then it stands dude.

babooshleeky said:

Exactly!

Ive noticed alot of the gay people on here seem to have a problem with the father its alright for you because your never going to be in that position are you??

Smoothradio said:

Because gay people don't look after nephews or nieces or sometimes adopt children do they.

Smoothradio said:

You've noticed a lot in your short time here. You must be psychic or something.

And approx 17% of your posts to date are anti-gay. FYI.

Cinnie said:

I have a fairly good idea exactly how I would've reacted in that situation. I would've stepped in, like the father in the video did, but just with my arm out, considering how things turned out probably not even touching the man who kicked (since he backed away after kicking), but to get between him and my kid in case he kicked again. I then would've turned to see how my child is. There is absolutely no way I would have struck the guy, down syndrome or not. Once I'd made sure my child was ok I would've talked to the mother.

That's not some idealistic, hippy-loving bullshit with the benefit of hindsight. That's just being a regular, decent, balanced person not given to outbursts of violent behaviour.

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[Edited 4/20/09 3:28am]

mcmeekle said:

I am pretty sure that at least 50% of my posts are TOTALLY gay

mdiver said:

Only 50%?

Smoothradio said:

Care to name them, i am pretty sure you are way off beam with that.

So most of the people im seeing talking out against his actions are straight. I also fail to see how your conclusion can be drawn from the idea that they will never be in that position?????

Or are you just trolling?

Fauxie said:

Im sorry but you will not act the same with children who arent really yours. Its just the way it is!

Smoothradio said:

That's bullshit to me personally, and I'm sure it is to others here too. I don't have children of my own yet but do you honestly think I'd act any differently if it were one of my nephews or friends' children? Nice trolling.

Fauxie said:

Yes!

Smoothradio said:

I have children and would react in the same way with any child in my care. Be it nieces, nephews, neighbour's kids.

Smoothradio said:

whatever. what you said was ridiculous and uncalled for.

mcmeekle said:

Smoothradio said:

Step away from the alcohol...

Well, as a father myself, I can certainly relate to what a difficult situation this must have been. I have sympathy with the point that one can never be sure of ones reactions until a situation occurs. And I further understand the overwhelming defensive feelings that any parent has towards their children.

However, I simply can not imagine reacting in the same manner as this man. My first reaction, in the event that no further violence was ongoing (as in this instance) would be to place myself between my child and the perpetrator and create clear distance between the two. Now, in this particular circumstance, that would give me all the time I need to establish that the "attacking" child was disabled with DS. That would all I need to know to realise that no violence on my part is nessecary (baring some further threatedning.attacking intent from the child). I would then seek to bring the mother into the situation and no doubt I might give her some (probably ignorant, but fueled by anger) advice about keeping her child under better control. However, I can't emphasise enough how relevent the fact of his disability is. And I simply don't accept that the father did not see this (or did not have time etc). You;d have to be an idiot not to instantly recognise the child for what he is. And if he didn't have time, thats because he gave himself none.

If the child were not disabled, then I would follow the same course of action, but my "advice" would likely be addressed to the attacking child, not the mother. And I'm sure I would have some choice words and threats of my own. But to instantly run in and floor the child? Sorry, thats just not behaviour I can see from myself, and I fail to understand how any reasonable person would act the same...

Cinnie said:

But why do you feel the need to know exactly what someone would say or do? Isn't hearing that they know what they wouldn't do enough?

Anyway, here's what I would do. I would be angry, believe me...I would. I would immediately go over and push the kid away or grab my son away or get in between, probably yelling, "Hey!" or something along those lines.

But no way in hell would I react the way this father did.

Fauxie said:

Exactly.

JustErin said:

Exactly exactly.