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Reply #30 posted 04/17/09 7:44pm

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Anxiety said:

why can't the airlines do what movie theaters and performance venues do?

why can't they have some seating set aside for 'seatmates of size' - like, have seats that can be modified into "doublewide" seats, and have one or two rows made available in case people request it? i mean, what about people who are confined to motorized wheelchairs? what about people who "take up room" because of an apparatus connected to a disability?

i understand in a situation where someone tries to get a ticket last minute and there's only one or two seats left on a flight. you can only do so much in situations like that. but if someone gets their ticket well in advance, i think the airline should be more accommodating and less callous.


Where's the accomodation for people who've paid full price for their own seat and are forced to share half of it with a complete stranger?
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Reply #31 posted 04/17/09 7:46pm

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Lammastide said:

Anxiety said:

why can't the airlines do what movie theaters and performance venues do?

why can't they have some seating set aside for 'seatmates of size' - like, have seats that can be modified into "doublewide" seats, and have one or two rows made available in case people request it? i mean, what about people who are confined to motorized wheelchairs? what about people who "take up room" because of an apparatus connected to a disability?

i understand in a situation where someone tries to get a ticket last minute and there's only one or two seats left on a flight. you can only do so much in situations like that. but if someone gets their ticket well in advance, i think the airline should be more accommodating and less callous.

Thank you.

You may be pleasantly surprised to know that Air Canada has recently adopted just such a policy. You may be less surprised to know that certain folk threw a hissy fit over even this. confused

I suspect that some people are just so miserable, they can't stand courtesies that make other people less miserable.
[Edited 4/16/09 19:40pm]



What about courtesy toward customers forced to share a seat with half the ass of some big person sitting next to them?

If anyone else wants extra space they have to pay for it. Why should one group of people be excepted from that?
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Reply #32 posted 04/17/09 7:53pm

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meow85 said:

Anxiety said:

why can't the airlines do what movie theaters and performance venues do?

why can't they have some seating set aside for 'seatmates of size' - like, have seats that can be modified into "doublewide" seats, and have one or two rows made available in case people request it? i mean, what about people who are confined to motorized wheelchairs? what about people who "take up room" because of an apparatus connected to a disability?

i understand in a situation where someone tries to get a ticket last minute and there's only one or two seats left on a flight. you can only do so much in situations like that. but if someone gets their ticket well in advance, i think the airline should be more accommodating and less callous.


Where's the accomodation for people who've paid full price for their own seat and are forced to share half of it with a complete stranger?

They no longer have to share, since the larger person was given a seat they can fit into. That's the point. Everyone is accomdated.
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Reply #33 posted 04/17/09 8:15pm

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CarrieMpls said:

meow85 said:



Where's the accomodation for people who've paid full price for their own seat and are forced to share half of it with a complete stranger?

They no longer have to share, since the larger person was given a seat they can fit into. That's the point. Everyone is accomdated.

But if I want an extra seat for the sake of comfort, I'd have to pay for it.

No one is comfortable in airline seating, so why should one group of people be given special accommodation?
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Reply #34 posted 04/17/09 8:19pm

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meow85 said:

CarrieMpls said:


They no longer have to share, since the larger person was given a seat they can fit into. That's the point. Everyone is accomdated.

But if I want an extra seat for the sake of comfort, I'd have to pay for it.

No one is comfortable in airline seating, so why should one group of people be given special accommodation?


Because this isn't "special" accomodation, it's allowing them a seat they can physically fit into. If you are smaller than the size of the standard seat you are already getting that. And as I said before, it benefits everyone.
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Reply #35 posted 04/17/09 8:48pm

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That is cold, but fair in a lot of ways.
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Reply #36 posted 04/17/09 9:26pm

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meow85 said:

Lammastide said:


Thank you.

You may be pleasantly surprised to know that Air Canada has recently adopted just such a policy. You may be less surprised to know that certain folk threw a hissy fit over even this. confused

I suspect that some people are just so miserable, they can't stand courtesies that make other people less miserable.
[Edited 4/16/09 19:40pm]



What about courtesy toward customers forced to share a seat with half the ass of some big person sitting next to them?

If anyone else wants extra space they have to pay for it. Why should one group of people be excepted from that?

I defer to CarrieMpls.
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Reply #37 posted 04/17/09 9:57pm

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CarrieMpls said:

meow85 said:



Where's the accomodation for people who've paid full price for their own seat and are forced to share half of it with a complete stranger?

They no longer have to share, since the larger person was given a seat they can fit into. That's the point. Everyone is accomdated.



How would you propose this seating was arranged?
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Reply #38 posted 04/17/09 10:14pm

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Sorry, I gotta agree with the airlines on this one.
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Reply #39 posted 04/17/09 10:19pm

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CarrieMpls said:

meow85 said:


But if I want an extra seat for the sake of comfort, I'd have to pay for it.

No one is comfortable in airline seating, so why should one group of people be given special accommodation?


Because this isn't "special" accomodation, it's allowing them a seat they can physically fit into. If you are smaller than the size of the standard seat you are already getting that. And as I said before, it benefits everyone.

How is allowing people extra seats without having to pay for them not special accommodation? Even those of us who are smaller than the bodies airline seats are designed for aren't comfortable in the allotted space.
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Reply #40 posted 04/17/09 10:31pm

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Sorry, I gotta agree with the airlines on this one.



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Reply #41 posted 04/17/09 10:46pm

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xenon said:

CarrieMpls said:


They no longer have to share, since the larger person was given a seat they can fit into. That's the point. Everyone is accomdated.



How would you propose this seating was arranged?

Easy. Retrofit a few wider seats. shrug Air Canada has done this -- not only for class III morbidly obese passengers, but those traveling with, say, necessary medical devices, service animals and assistive chaperones. And they're doing just fine. And no one is squished.
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Reply #42 posted 04/17/09 11:43pm

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Larger person next to me or no larger person next to me, flying is an ever increasingly uncomfortable & unpleasant experience.
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Reply #43 posted 04/17/09 11:49pm

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meow85 said:

CarrieMpls said:



Because this isn't "special" accomodation, it's allowing them a seat they can physically fit into. If you are smaller than the size of the standard seat you are already getting that. And as I said before, it benefits everyone.

How is allowing people extra seats without having to pay for them not special accommodation? Even those of us who are smaller than the bodies airline seats are designed for aren't comfortable in the allotted space.


Because it's not about comfort, it's about being able to physically fit into the seat. And even if it were about comfort, then it's allowing YOU not to be squished by someone stuffed into the seat next to you who can't fit there.

If you can't see why everyone getting a seat they can physically fit into for the same price is fair, then I'm not sure I can explain it to you.
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Reply #44 posted 04/18/09 12:17am

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CarrieMpls said:

meow85 said:


How is allowing people extra seats without having to pay for them not special accommodation? Even those of us who are smaller than the bodies airline seats are designed for aren't comfortable in the allotted space.


Because it's not about comfort, it's about being able to physically fit into the seat. And even if it were about comfort, then it's allowing YOU not to be squished by someone stuffed into the seat next to you who can't fit there.

If you can't see why everyone getting a seat they can physically fit into for the same price is fair, then I'm not sure I can explain it to you.


It's a valid point, and even if the cost of flying is directly related to the limited space & the fact that every pound counts towards fuel costs then the ultimate solution would be to charge sliding scale prices based on weight/height & give an accordingly sized seat. And I don't see that happening.
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Reply #45 posted 04/18/09 1:27am

Anxiety

meow85 said:

Anxiety said:

why can't the airlines do what movie theaters and performance venues do?

why can't they have some seating set aside for 'seatmates of size' - like, have seats that can be modified into "doublewide" seats, and have one or two rows made available in case people request it? i mean, what about people who are confined to motorized wheelchairs? what about people who "take up room" because of an apparatus connected to a disability?

i understand in a situation where someone tries to get a ticket last minute and there's only one or two seats left on a flight. you can only do so much in situations like that. but if someone gets their ticket well in advance, i think the airline should be more accommodating and less callous.


Where's the accomodation for people who've paid full price for their own seat and are forced to share half of it with a complete stranger?


if i'm sitting in a full seat and the person sitting next to me is taking up one or two seats, what problem is it of mine? i'm more annoyed when a parent sitting next to me lets their screaming kid sit on their lap. i'm like, GREAT. not only do i have to sit next to this irritating stranger, but now it's a stranger with two heads and one of them is flinging snot at me. rolleyes
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Reply #46 posted 04/18/09 1:30am

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meow85 said:

CarrieMpls said:



Because this isn't "special" accomodation, it's allowing them a seat they can physically fit into. If you are smaller than the size of the standard seat you are already getting that. And as I said before, it benefits everyone.

How is allowing people extra seats without having to pay for them not special accommodation? Even those of us who are smaller than the bodies airline seats are designed for aren't comfortable in the allotted space.


morbidly obese people sure have some nerve making their bodies all big like that. who do they think they are, the king of siam? nuts
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Reply #47 posted 04/18/09 1:31am

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Sorry, I gotta agree with the airlines on this one.


way to stick it to the man. lol
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Reply #48 posted 04/18/09 5:47am

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Dayclear said:

Sorry, I gotta agree with the airlines on this one.


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Reply #49 posted 04/18/09 6:06am

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over the phone you could lol and when you present in person there will be a right kerfuffle! disbelief


i guess you could show up in person wearing a fat suit and then once you board the plane you could take it off in the lavatory, then walk out and yell "i'm THIN! it's a MIRACLE!" and have a whole row to your skinny little self. maybe even get on oprah.



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