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Printablegrandebelle said: DigitalLisa said: This is just a thought 2 provoke 2 the mind. The question isn't really new, but it's always interesting.I'm not trying to bash all men, but some men tend 2 not like the fact that a woman may be smarter then he is, or stronger then he is, or even be the bread winner in the family. Will there ever be equal opportunity between the two sexes or will this always be a man's world ?
What do u think ? I think men have come a long way towards accepting intelligent women. theres ALWAYS been men who liked women to b the bread winners so THEY could stay home & lay around... dont know much about those guys & dont plan to, but guys worth MY time WANT a woman to b intelligent, whether or not they want or need her to work outside the home. however, i feel the MAN should be AS smart as me, or SMARTER than me. i doubt that i could respect a man that had less upstairs than i did. i need to feel i can look up to him, to be protected by him, to respect his decisions as having the final say in matters. thats not to say he HAS to be higher educated than me, but i'd like him 2 be equally intelligent or more intelligent than i in most matters, i.e. common sense issues & every day sort of things, as well as important issues. i guess i'm saying 4 me, a man should wear the pants in the family. But why does anyone have to "wear the pants in the family"? Why assign that? Isn't it just natural to trade off dominance in a relationship--depending on what the issue is and how each is feeling that day? I think men and women in a household (or any working relationship) need to do what comes naturally to each partner based upon what they're good at and enjoy. Why must things be so gender based? | |
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That's social conditioning 4 u...
I think intelligent women are sought after more than not. | |
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AnotherLover2 said: grandebelle said: DigitalLisa said: This is just a thought 2 provoke 2 the mind. The question isn't really new, but it's always interesting.I'm not trying to bash all men, but some men tend 2 not like the fact that a woman may be smarter then he is, or stronger then he is, or even be the bread winner in the family. Will there ever be equal opportunity between the two sexes or will this always be a man's world ?
What do u think ? I think men have come a long way towards accepting intelligent women. theres ALWAYS been men who liked women to b the bread winners so THEY could stay home & lay around... dont know much about those guys & dont plan to, but guys worth MY time WANT a woman to b intelligent, whether or not they want or need her to work outside the home. however, i feel the MAN should be AS smart as me, or SMARTER than me. i doubt that i could respect a man that had less upstairs than i did. i need to feel i can look up to him, to be protected by him, to respect his decisions as having the final say in matters. thats not to say he HAS to be higher educated than me, but i'd like him 2 be equally intelligent or more intelligent than i in most matters, i.e. common sense issues & every day sort of things, as well as important issues. i guess i'm saying 4 me, a man should wear the pants in the family. But why does anyone have to "wear the pants in the family"? Why assign that? Isn't it just natural to trade off dominance in a relationship--depending on what the issue is and how each is feeling that day? I think men and women in a household (or any working relationship) need to do what comes naturally to each partner based upon what they're good at and enjoy. Why must things be so gender based? I agree let a woman be a woman and a man be a man. Hey anotherlover  | |
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4LOVE said: AnotherLover2 said: grandebelle said: DigitalLisa said: This is just a thought 2 provoke 2 the mind. The question isn't really new, but it's always interesting.I'm not trying to bash all men, but some men tend 2 not like the fact that a woman may be smarter then he is, or stronger then he is, or even be the bread winner in the family. Will there ever be equal opportunity between the two sexes or will this always be a man's world ?
What do u think ? I think men have come a long way towards accepting intelligent women. theres ALWAYS been men who liked women to b the bread winners so THEY could stay home & lay around... dont know much about those guys & dont plan to, but guys worth MY time WANT a woman to b intelligent, whether or not they want or need her to work outside the home. however, i feel the MAN should be AS smart as me, or SMARTER than me. i doubt that i could respect a man that had less upstairs than i did. i need to feel i can look up to him, to be protected by him, to respect his decisions as having the final say in matters. thats not to say he HAS to be higher educated than me, but i'd like him 2 be equally intelligent or more intelligent than i in most matters, i.e. common sense issues & every day sort of things, as well as important issues. i guess i'm saying 4 me, a man should wear the pants in the family. But why does anyone have to "wear the pants in the family"? Why assign that? Isn't it just natural to trade off dominance in a relationship--depending on what the issue is and how each is feeling that day? I think men and women in a household (or any working relationship) need to do what comes naturally to each partner based upon what they're good at and enjoy. Why must things be so gender based? I agree let a woman be a woman and a man be a man. Hey anotherlover Hey, 4Love, if that's really a picture of you, I must say you're quite handsome and you've got that "dangerous" look down really well!  | |
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AnotherLover2 said: grandebelle said: DigitalLisa said: This is just a thought 2 provoke 2 the mind. The question isn't really new, but it's always interesting.I'm not trying to bash all men, but some men tend 2 not like the fact that a woman may be smarter then he is, or stronger then he is, or even be the bread winner in the family. Will there ever be equal opportunity between the two sexes or will this always be a man's world ?
What do u think ? I think men have come a long way towards accepting intelligent women. theres ALWAYS been men who liked women to b the bread winners so THEY could stay home & lay around... dont know much about those guys & dont plan to, but guys worth MY time WANT a woman to b intelligent, whether or not they want or need her to work outside the home. however, i feel the MAN should be AS smart as me, or SMARTER than me. i doubt that i could respect a man that had less upstairs than i did. i need to feel i can look up to him, to be protected by him, to respect his decisions as having the final say in matters. thats not to say he HAS to be higher educated than me, but i'd like him 2 be equally intelligent or more intelligent than i in most matters, i.e. common sense issues & every day sort of things, as well as important issues. i guess i'm saying 4 me, a man should wear the pants in the family. But why does anyone have to "wear the pants in the family"? Why assign that? Isn't it just natural to trade off dominance in a relationship--depending on what the issue is and how each is feeling that day? I think men and women in a household (or any working relationship) need to do what comes naturally to each partner based upon what they're good at and enjoy. Why must things be so gender based? I didnt mean it to sound like "a man wearing the pants" is written in cement. of course there will b times when a couple will share equally the issues at hand, but usually it has to b one of u who has the final say and i prefer it to b the man in MOST cases. thats why 4 me i have 2 totally look up 2 and respect him intellectually, so i can b "ok" with "his" decisions. i have just got out of a marriage where I made all the decisions/choices in most matters. whether it was where 2 go, or what 2 do. my x was "ok" with my judgement. this was "all good" in the beginning, but i was stressed and tired of it after a time. lots of responsibility, and if i ever chose wrong of course he had someone 2 blame. me. he really wanted 2 b "the boss", but was not good at it at all. he was a college grad and i was going 2 college at the time, but everyone knew i was smarter in everyday matters and important issues. what i'm getting 2 here is; one or the other really has to finalize things, or maybe take turns? all i know, is after this experience, i'm ready 4 a man to take over. i didnt like being in control. i felt like his mother most of the time. i really feel that even today, most men rule in the home, even tho there r more & more women doing so. May the BELLS ring 4 U even when ur not in love.  | |
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my girlfriend is VERY intelligent...she has an honours degree in maths and will start her phd soon...she also has a book published on mathematical modelling...and was dux(top) of her school... i LOVE her intelligence...it was one of the main things that attracted me to her...(i also don't mind the fact that she's a FOX!!) 
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grandebelle said: AnotherLover2 said: grandebelle said: DigitalLisa said: This is just a thought 2 provoke 2 the mind. The question isn't really new, but it's always interesting.I'm not trying to bash all men, but some men tend 2 not like the fact that a woman may be smarter then he is, or stronger then he is, or even be the bread winner in the family. Will there ever be equal opportunity between the two sexes or will this always be a man's world ?
What do u think ? I think men have come a long way towards accepting intelligent women. theres ALWAYS been men who liked women to b the bread winners so THEY could stay home & lay around... dont know much about those guys & dont plan to, but guys worth MY time WANT a woman to b intelligent, whether or not they want or need her to work outside the home. however, i feel the MAN should be AS smart as me, or SMARTER than me. i doubt that i could respect a man that had less upstairs than i did. i need to feel i can look up to him, to be protected by him, to respect his decisions as having the final say in matters. thats not to say he HAS to be higher educated than me, but i'd like him 2 be equally intelligent or more intelligent than i in most matters, i.e. common sense issues & every day sort of things, as well as important issues. i guess i'm saying 4 me, a man should wear the pants in the family. But why does anyone have to "wear the pants in the family"? Why assign that? Isn't it just natural to trade off dominance in a relationship--depending on what the issue is and how each is feeling that day? I think men and women in a household (or any working relationship) need to do what comes naturally to each partner based upon what they're good at and enjoy. Why must things be so gender based? I didnt mean it to sound like "a man wearing the pants" is written in cement. of course there will b times when a couple will share equally the issues at hand, but usually it has to b one of u who has the final say and i prefer it to b the man in MOST cases. thats why 4 me i have 2 totally look up 2 and respect him intellectually, so i can b "ok" with "his" decisions. i have just got out of a marriage where I made all the decisions/choices in most matters. whether it was where 2 go, or what 2 do. my x was "ok" with my judgement. this was "all good" in the beginning, but i was stressed and tired of it after a time. lots of responsibility, and if i ever chose wrong of course he had someone 2 blame. me. he really wanted 2 b "the boss", but was not good at it at all. he was a college grad and i was going 2 college at the time, but everyone knew i was smarter in everyday matters and important issues. what i'm getting 2 here is; one or the other really has to finalize things, or maybe take turns? all i know, is after this experience, i'm ready 4 a man to take over. i didnt like being in control. i felt like his mother most of the time. i really feel that even today, most men rule in the home, even tho there r more & more women doing so. But see, there you go again using words like "rule" and "judgment" and "boss"...words of hierarchy and power.  I realize that power struggles exist within all groups in our society, but to break it down to that as far as a family goes--damn, that's pretty sad! And what is power? What it is, and where it exists, depends on what is valued in the household--for many, what's valued is money, so whoever makes the most money has the power to make the most important decisions, whether it's spoken or silent power. In other situations, the person who can play the mindgames the best, who deals out the emotional pain, has the power in the home. There's also the power that comes with physical dominance where that person rules because people are afraid they'll get physically hurt.
I understand what you're saying, I think, grandbelle which is that you took on the responsibility long enough and it would've been nice to have some help shouldering the burden. What I'm saying, though, is that it doesn't have to be one extreme or the other. People can share responsibilities. To accomplish it, it takes grown up, mature people who want to see their home, their children, and their relationship flourish. But it can be done. Women don't have to "wear the pants" or let someone else wear them--they can be equal partners, being responsible but yet demanding accountability from their male partner, too. When we give up allpower and responsibility, we make ourselves childlike and we are at the mercy of the one we've given all of the power to... | |
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MrBliss said: my girlfriend is VERY intelligent...she has an honours degree in maths and will start her phd soon...she also has a book published on mathematical modelling...and was dux(top) of her school... i LOVE her intelligence...it was one of the main things that attracted me to her...(i also don't mind the fact that she's a FOX!!)
What's a "fox" in your opinion, Mr. Bliss? | |
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Most of my girlfriends have been really smart. I can think of only 2 that I've dated who've been less than really brighted.
One of those not-so-smart women was convinced she was a genius (yes, at times, it was comical). I cannot thank God enough for my beautiful, intelligent (i mean, really, really smart), funny, sweet, thoughtful and oh-so-nice girlfriend. She's the bomb. We have long conversations/debates about all sorts of topics on an almost-weekly basis. She's great. For those that think men don't appreciate brainy women, you couldn't be further off base. We love them, at least I do. And, yes, we really like it if they're also really fine. Which she is, as well. :wOOt: | |
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AnotherLover2 said: MrBliss said: my girlfriend is VERY intelligent...she has an honours degree in maths and will start her phd soon...she also has a book published on mathematical modelling...and was dux(top) of her school... i LOVE her intelligence...it was one of the main things that attracted me to her...(i also don't mind the fact that she's a FOX!!)
What's a "fox" in your opinion, Mr. Bliss? i mean i'm very attracted to her...she has a very natural beauty...and an amazing spirit that radiates through her eyes...she does have an awesome body...but that's not a prerequisite...just a bonus...
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I actually prefer intelligent women.I can't stand
air headed girls,their attitudes piss me off sometimes and turn me off. Intelligent women are not stuck on themselves,they are more focused on important things.I like that,I wish I saw more women like this everywhere I go.  My name is BISCUIT...and I am funky!  | |
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if a man has a problem with my intellegence than its exactly that...HIS problem...
i have worked had to get where i am today and if a man doesn't respect and acknowledge that then to hell with him!!! i don't need him... you're only as old as you feel..............so how old do i feel 
Now that food has replaced sex in my life, I can't even get into my own pants. | |
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I'm not offended by an intelligent woman, if that who she really is. but if she's doing that to prove a point, then it is offending. | |
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It basically comes down to the individual. If a man is secure and firm in who HE IS, then he has the capacity to be with a very intelligent woman. But if he is not, then that's a whole other story altogether and that is usually when a problem will occur between the two sexes.
Additionally, it depends on how the woman is carrying herself. Let's just say we have a woman who has a college eduaction, a good job{and very intelligent to boot} and she dates a dude that only has a high school level education but has a fairly decent job{which is saying alot considering the current economic state we're in}. If she knows how to carry herself she can project class, sophistication, and intelligence-minus the aloofness. On the other hand, if every chance she gets, she unovertly or overtly presents an arrongant aura about her status, then it may or may not affect her date..which leads me back to my initial point. Depends on how firm and secure the man is in who he is...Peace BRO915 | |
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offended is the wrong word. Most men are intimidated by intelligent women, which is a sign of insecurity.
Personally, I have to have an intelligent woman because the physical thing only lasts for a few months. Then all you have is the mind. This has made me single for a long time because I won't just use someone, knowing there is no future. Intelligence is rare and common sense is not common. | |
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4LOVE said: I agree let a woman be a woman and a man be a man.
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AnotherLover2 said: Hey, 4Love, if that's really a picture of you, I must say you're quite handsome and you've got that "dangerous" look down really well! Thank you | |
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Both the Man and the woman should bring something to the relationship.
Men are better at making decisions - and women are better at hoovering. Men are better with Finances - women are better at ironing. Men Lead - Women Clean. My Girlfriend agrees with me - because if she didnt... PS - Topic asked for it.. | |
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I like a woman to 'educate' me.I find intelligence is a very attractive trait. | |
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I hate women who act dumb and easy. I would much rather converse with an intelligent woman. I dont sleep with women, so its whats in their head that interests me. | |
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Yes, I am in the Information Technology business, and men will do anything to belittle my intelligence..This industry is doggy dog... they think they know all of the answers to every problem... ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect, it means you've decided to look beyond the imperfections... unknown | |
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I think it depends on the man. 4 me I find intelligent woman sexy~ | |
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I believe in Beauty&the Brain.A Intelligent Woman brings so Much Delight&Warmth too My Soul. mistermaxxx | |
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No. My answer, for me, is no. I am not at all offended by an intelligent woman. In the first place, that would be sexist and in the second, I find intelligence far more attractive than stupidity. Who doesn't find intelligence attractive? Stupid people, that's who. | |
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00769BAD said: a turely intelligent woman can, for the
sake of love, make her self quite 'DINGGY' over analizing a situation, pontifacating on every lil thing that's done in the world and not knowing how to handle a simple relationship, oh... i was thinking GENIUS. NEVERMIND!!! an intelligent woman is just that, an intelligent woman. that doesn't mean they are BEYOND APPROACH or UNDERSTANDING and they are ( most of them) very beautiful, sexy, fine, whutever... Hi LOVER!!! An intelligent woman doesn't have to go out of her way to show that--just as a beautiful woman doesn't always have to be "made up". A women's potential mind and beauty will be evident and proven when she's NOT broadcasting. | |
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most of them don't realize they are offended   WHO ME? | |
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