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Thread started 04/02/09 8:00am

endymion

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Lets talk about Love...

I think the poem below is just about the perfect description of love

How would you describe love?



Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love,
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove.
Oh, no! it is an ever-fixed mark
That looks on tempests.. and is never shaken.
It is the star to every wandering bark
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.
Love is not Time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle's compass come.
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out.. even to the edge of doom.
If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.



PS: Mysterioso, much love to you bro, but this how you use words wink
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Reply #1 posted 04/02/09 8:06am

BlueZebra

no

and btw, first )
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Reply #2 posted 04/02/09 8:10am

CarrieMpls

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bleh.

I'm not a fan of most poetry.

Not a fan of "love" really, either.

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Reply #3 posted 04/02/09 8:18am

endymion

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CarrieMpls said:

bleh.

I'm not a fan of most poetry.

Not a fan of "love" really, either.

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Is it relationships that have made you think this way or do you think the claims of the poem are unrealistic?
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Reply #4 posted 04/02/09 8:20am

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..i LOVE this thread already... woot!
...LOVE is the master key that opens the gates of happiness...

..love and you shall be loved..all love is mathematically just..as much as the 2 sides of an algebraic equation..

...the true measure of loving God is 2 love him without measure...

..4 LOVE'S GROWTH..
...grant me..even me..my dearest Lord..2 know Thee..and love Thee..and rejoice in Thee..and..if i cannot do these perfectly in this life..let me at least advance 2 higher degress every day..till i can come 2 do them in perfection..let the knowledge of thee grow every day more and more here..that it may b perfect hereafter..that my joy may b great in itself..and full in Thee..i know..o God..that Thou art a God of truth..o make good Thy gracious promises 2 me..that my joy mayb full...

..mzsexybaby sexy
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #5 posted 04/02/09 8:25am

Mach

Perhaps love is like a resting place, a shelter from the storm
It exists to give you comfort, it is there to keep you warm
And in those times of trouble when you are most alone
The memory of love will bring you home

Perhaps love is like a window, perhaps an open door
It invites you to come closer, it wants to show you more
And even if you lose yourself and don't know what to do
The memory of love will see you through

Love to some is like a cloud, to some as strong as steel
For some a way of living, for some a way to feel
And some say love is holding on and some say letting go
And some say love is everything, and some say they don't know

Perhaps love is like the ocean, full of conflict, full of pain
Like a fire when it's cold outside, thunder when it rains
If I should live forever, and all my dreams come true
My memories of love will be of you

Some say love is holding on and some say letting go
Some say ove is everything and some say they don't know

Perhaps love is like the mountains, full og conflict, full of change
Like a fire when it's cold outside, thunder when it rains
If I should live forever, and all my dreams come true
My memories of love will be of you
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Reply #6 posted 04/02/09 8:25am

CarrieLee

Not a fan of poetry unless it's funny and rhymes.
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Reply #7 posted 04/02/09 8:31am

endymion

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CarrieLee said:

Not a fan of poetry unless it's funny and rhymes.



Heck i know shakespeare is no Shausler lol
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Reply #8 posted 04/02/09 8:41am

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..love is never lost...if not reciprocated it will flow back and soften and purify the heart..

...kindle my coldness with the fire of Thy love...and enlighten my blindness with the brightness of thy presence...

..there is no happiness in the world in which love does not enter..and love is but the discovery of ourselves in others..AND THE DELIGHT IN THE RECOGNITION..

...grant..o Lord..my earnest plea..help me 2 b kind and thoughtful in word and deed..help me 2 4get myself and draw love and affection from those around me..increase my force of body and mind 2 make me inviting 2 those i find appealing..i am most thankful 4 the love of others which thou has put in2 my own heart heart lead me in this search..i ask most humbly..

..mzsexybaby heart
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #9 posted 04/02/09 8:45am

endymion

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mzkqueen03 said:

..love is never lost...if not reciprocated it will flow back and soften and purify the heart..

...kindle my coldness with the fire of Thy love...and enlighten my blindness with the brightness of thy presence...

..there is no happiness in the world in which love does not enter..and love is but the discovery of ourselves in others..AND THE DELIGHT IN THE RECOGNITION..

...grant..o Lord..my earnest plea..help me 2 b kind and thoughtful in word and deed..help me 2 4get myself and draw love and affection from those around me..increase my force of body and mind 2 make me inviting 2 those i find appealing..i am most thankful 4 the love of others which thou has put in2 my own heart heart lead me in this search..i ask most humbly..

..mzsexybaby heart


I love that lol
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Reply #10 posted 04/02/09 8:47am

CarrieMpls

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endymion said:

CarrieMpls said:

bleh.

I'm not a fan of most poetry.

Not a fan of "love" really, either.

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Is it relationships that have made you think this way or do you think the claims of the poem are unrealistic?


Both.

I think the claims are unrealistic for a romantic relationship, absolutely.

I do see that kind of love in the world that some parents have for their children, friends sometimes have for each other and so on.
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Reply #11 posted 04/02/09 8:52am

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...love is not a possession but growth..the heart is a lamp with just oil enough 2 burn 4 an hour..and if there b no oil 2 put in again its light will go out..god's grace is the oil that fills the lamp of love...

..the pains of love b sweeter far than all other plaesures are..

...life is short and we have never 2 much time 4 gladdening the hearts of those who r traveling the dark way with us..oh..b swift 2 love!!..make haste 2 b kind!!

..fountain of love..love thou our friends and teach them 2 love Thee with all their hearts..that they may think and speak and do only such things as r well-pleasing 2 thee..

..mzsexybaby heart
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #12 posted 04/02/09 8:53am

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I couldn't understand the poem but the strongest love I've ever really experienced is the love I have for my son.

Then family and people I have in my life (bfs, friends). I do not believe in the whole romantic love stuff - that's infatuation.

There is love and there is infatuation and that's about it.
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Reply #13 posted 04/02/09 8:57am

garganta

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sorry, could someone describe infatuation for me, please?
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Reply #14 posted 04/02/09 9:05am

JustErin

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garganta said:

sorry, could someone describe infatuation for me, please?


in·fat·u·a·tion
n.
1. A foolish, unreasoning, or extravagant passion or attraction. See Synonyms at love.
2. An object of extravagant, short-lived passion.
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Reply #15 posted 04/02/09 9:09am

endymion

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JustErin said:

I couldn't understand the poem but the strongest love I've ever really experienced is the love I have for my son.

Then family and people I have in my life (bfs, friends). I do not believe in the whole romantic love stuff - that's infatuation.

There is love and there is infatuation and that's about it.



The poem is trying to say what love is "an ever fixed mark" for example

With the love you have for your son it doesn't "alter" even if your son tries to alter it, by behaving like a little bugger on occasions.

Your love for your son "is never shaken" even when it "looks on tempests" a tempest means a violent storm or in your sons case maybe a violent tantrum lol


Another small part of the poem is the idea that love doesn't alter with time

"though rosy lips and cheeks" become aged, love can endure


sorry to lecture its the teacher in me surfacing lol i hope that helped your understanding a little bit more


not trying to be patronizing edit
[Edited 4/2/09 9:17am]
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Reply #16 posted 04/02/09 9:11am

garganta

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JustErin said:

garganta said:

sorry, could someone describe infatuation for me, please?


in·fat·u·a·tion
n.
1. A foolish, unreasoning, or extravagant passion or attraction. See Synonyms at love.
2. An object of extravagant, short-lived passion.


thanks, by someone I actually meant you wink

english is not my first language but that description makes a lot of sense in regard to what I am feeling for someone at the moment confused
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Reply #17 posted 04/02/09 9:20am

JustErin

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endymion said:

JustErin said:

I couldn't understand the poem but the strongest love I've ever really experienced is the love I have for my son.

Then family and people I have in my life (bfs, friends). I do not believe in the whole romantic love stuff - that's infatuation.

There is love and there is infatuation and that's about it.



The poem is trying to say what love is "an ever fixed mark" for example

With the love you have for your son it doesn't "alter" even if your son tries to alter it, by behaving like a little bugger on occasions.

Your love for your son "is never shaken" even when it "looks on tempests" a tempest means a violent storm or in your sons case maybe a violent tantrum lol


Another small part of the poem is the idea that love doesn't alter with time

"though rosy lips and cheeks" become aged, love can endure


sorry to lecture its the teacher in me surfacing lol i hope that helped your understanding a little bit more


not trying to be patronizing edit
[Edited 4/2/09 9:17am]


To be honest, when I read something and I have to actually think about it, I tune out. So the first line seemed a bit too much so I stopped there. lol
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Reply #18 posted 04/02/09 9:20am

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endymion said:

How would you describe love?





There is no way to describe it, it is a feeling.

It can be there and gone in seconds.. it is a work in progress.
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Reply #19 posted 04/02/09 9:24am

JustErin

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garganta said:

JustErin said:



in·fat·u·a·tion
n.
1. A foolish, unreasoning, or extravagant passion or attraction. See Synonyms at love.
2. An object of extravagant, short-lived passion.


thanks, by someone I actually meant you wink

english is not my first language but that description makes a lot of sense in regard to what I am feeling for someone at the moment confused


No prob! Thought I should just use the actual definition when explaining.

And I'm not saying it's a bad thing, just that I am of the opinion that this is what happens when we so call "fall in love" and I am not saying that it doesn't or can't lead to what I believe real love is - I know it can.

So in other words, I feel strongly that love exists, just not the whole, "in love", romantic love as most people define it.
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Reply #20 posted 04/02/09 9:40am

endymion

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JustErin said:

endymion said:




The poem is trying to say what love is "an ever fixed mark" for example

With the love you have for your son it doesn't "alter" even if your son tries to alter it, by behaving like a little bugger on occasions.

Your love for your son "is never shaken" even when it "looks on tempests" a tempest means a violent storm or in your sons case maybe a violent tantrum lol


Another small part of the poem is the idea that love doesn't alter with time

"though rosy lips and cheeks" become aged, love can endure


sorry to lecture its the teacher in me surfacing lol i hope that helped your understanding a little bit more


not trying to be patronizing edit
[Edited 4/2/09 9:17am]


To be honest, when I read something and I have to actually think about it, I tune out. So the first line seemed a bit too much so I stopped there. lol



Sounds like your a Kinesthetic learner lol http://en.wikipedia.org/w...c_learning

Although posting you a link to READ is a little ironic razz
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Reply #21 posted 04/02/09 10:23am

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What do I think love is?

My grandbaby Seyhan! Loving her is a love I have never felt before. It's more stronger in my heart then the deep love I have for my children.

So for me, love is in her big blue eyes, and that sweet toothless smile. mushy
Proud Memaw to Seyhan Olivia Christine ,Zoey Cirilo Jaylee & Ellie Abigail Lillian mushy
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Reply #22 posted 04/02/09 10:24am

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MoniGram said:

What do I think love is?

My grandbaby Seyhan! Loving her is a love I have never felt before.

She better be your only grandchild lol
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Reply #23 posted 04/02/09 10:27am

Mach

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

MoniGram said:

What do I think love is?

My grandbaby Seyhan! Loving her is a love I have never felt before.

She better be your only grandchild lol


No way Supa ! I have 4 and that type of love for each ( and any more to come ) is bottomless and ever abundant !! mr.green
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Reply #24 posted 04/02/09 10:29am

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Mach said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


She better be your only grandchild lol


No way Supa ! I have 4 and that type of love for each ( and any more to come ) is bottomless and ever abundant !! mr.green

I'm saying if she has 3 other grandchildren and this is the only one she felt that love with, someone'll be in trouble if those grandkids ever browse the org lol
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Reply #25 posted 04/02/09 10:29am

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endymion said:

JustErin said:



To be honest, when I read something and I have to actually think about it, I tune out. So the first line seemed a bit too much so I stopped there. lol



Sounds like your a Kinesthetic learner lol http://en.wikipedia.org/w...c_learning

Although posting you a link to READ is a little ironic razz


And here I thought I was just stupid.
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Reply #26 posted 04/02/09 10:30am

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LoveLoveLove
LoveLoveLove

Me & my friend were walking
In the cold light of mourning.
Tears may blind the eyes but the soul is not deceived
In this world even winter ain't what it seems.

Here come the blue skies Here comes springtime.
When the rivers run high & the tears run dry.
When everything that dies.
Shall rise.

LoveLoveLove is stronger than death.
LoveLoveLove is stronger than death.

In our lives we hunger for those we cannot touch.
All the thoughts unuttered & all the feelings unexpressed
Play upon our hearts like the mist upon our breath.
But, awoken by grief, our spirits speak
"How could you believe that the life within the seed
that grew arms that reached
And a heart that beat.
And lips that smiled
And eyes that cried.
Could ever die?"

Here come the blue skies Here comes springtime.
When the rivers run high & the tears run dry.
When everything that dies.
Shall rise.

LoveLoveLove is stronger than death.
LoveLoveLove is stronger than death.

Shall rise. Shall rise.
Shall rise. Shall rise.
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Reply #27 posted 04/02/09 10:33am

Mach

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Mach said:



No way Supa ! I have 4 and that type of love for each ( and any more to come ) is bottomless and ever abundant !! mr.green

I'm saying if she has 3 other grandchildren and this is the only one she felt that love with, someone'll be in trouble if those grandkids ever browse the org lol


lol

Oh !
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Reply #28 posted 04/02/09 10:37am

endymion

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Mach said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


She better be your only grandchild lol


No way Supa ! I have 4 and that type of love for each ( and any more to come ) is bottomless and ever abundant !! mr.green



which kinda reminds me of this quote

The more you love, the more you can love — and the more intensely you love. Nor is there any limit on how many you can love. If a person had time enough, he could love all of that majority who are decent and just.

lol
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Reply #29 posted 04/02/09 10:37am

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Mach said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


She better be your only grandchild lol


No way Supa ! I have 4 and that type of love for each ( and any more to come ) is bottomless and ever abundant !! mr.green



nod Exactly giggle
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