yes, and I stay away from cheese, bread, milk and i try to cut down on sugar. I think these things upset my stomach and make me tired.

maybe you have an intolerance - you can cut out the gluten from your diet for 6 weeks, keep a diary of what you ate and how it affected you, then introduce it again at normal levels (keep a diary) for another 6 weeks, then take it out of your diet again, still keeping a diary. Do the same then for lactose. You should be able to see from the way your body reacts what you are intolerant of - if you feel a lot better in that middle 6 weeks, you'll know.

See your doc first and maybe get your iron checked and ask about intolerances.

Thanks Zombie!

I hope you find the cause of it!
I had to do the same thing to rule out coeliac disease, I've got some abnormality in my gut lining, it's always inflamed to some degree. I'm not intolerant to gluten, but definitely to lactose

eww! than we shouldn't get ice cream together!

Vegetarians are hot

The sickest-looking people I know are vegetarians. Skinny, but dark around the eyes, and just a very heroin-addicted look altogether in most cases. I have never known a vegetarian who looked like they were brimming with health. We have a BIOLOGICAL imperative to eat meat. We are NOT cows. Our ancestors hunted AND gathered. If we were meant to eat only vegetables, don't you think it would have made sense for our ancestors to have JUST gathered? You know why they didn't JUST gather? Because humanity is HARDWIRED to hunt down, kill and cook M-E-A-T. And enjoy the hell out of that shit. So-called modern "evolved" men and women can, unlike most other animals, override their own genetic hardwiring, usually causing untold damage to themselves, which then must be hidden as best as possible so that the illusion of "victory over nature" can be maintained and they can continue to feel superior to us lesser meat-eaters. What fucking ever.. I think vegetarians have some real misanthropy going on and rebelling against the normal diet is their way of giving the finger to the world. Vegetarianism in my experience is almost always ideological.
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The sickest-looking people I know are vegetarians. Skinny, but dark around the eyes, and just a very heroin-addicted look altogether in most cases. I have never known a vegetarian who looked like they were brimming with health. We have a BIOLOGICAL imperative to eat meat. We are NOT cows. Our ancestors hunted AND gathered. If we were meant to eat only vegetables, don't you think it would have made sense for our ancestors to have JUST gathered? You know why they didn't JUST gather? Because humanity is HARDWIRED to hunt down, kill and cook M-E-A-T. And enjoy the hell out of that shit. So-called modern "evolved" men and women can, unlike most other animals, override their own genetic hardwiring, usually causing untold damage to themselves, which then must be hidden as best as possible so that the illusion of "victory over nature" can be maintained and they can continue to feel superior to us lesser meat-eaters. What fucking ever.. I think vegetarians have some real misanthropy going on and rebelling against the normal diet is their way of giving the finger to the world. Vegetarianism in my experience is almost always ideological.
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Eating disorders is not the fault of vegetarianism any more than drug use is the fault of rock music. I've been a vegetarian for a long time, and I've never gotten caught up in any of this mess.

Eating disorders is not the fault of vegetarianism any more than drug use is the fault of rock music. I've been a vegetarian for a long time, and I've never gotten caught up in any of this mess.

Eating disorders is not the fault of vegetarianism any more than drug use is the fault of rock music. I've been a vegetarian for a long time, and I've never gotten caught up in any of this mess.

But you're a guy. The vast majority of eating disorders occur among adolescent girls.

Eating disorders are all about control. No - vegetarianism isn't a cause of eating disorders. But it could be a symptom in some people - the same way any restrictive diet might be.

ok, so if it's a symptom, then this thread is kind of like saying colds and flus are the faults of sneezing and runny noses. there's some weird (il)logic happening in this thread.

there's something called "gymorexia" which is basically an abuse of working out. is it the fault of gyms?

we have the ability to use or abuse anything. some people can drink a relaxing glass of wine before bed every night. some people are alcoholics.

becoming a vegetarian is one of the best things i've ever done with my life. it's been the complete opposite of a disorder or a dysfunction.

and i don't think it has anything to do with my being male. i know more veg females than males, and they're some healthy ladies.

The guy thing was about the eating disorder part - not the vegetarian part. That's why I said the vast majority of eating disorders occur in adolescent females - not adolescent female vegetarians.

My point is, if you have an eating disorder, it doesn't matter a damn what kind of food you aren't eating (or are horking back up). You're still an anorexic (or bulimic, as the case may be).

I've been considering making the switch into being a full-blown vegeterian lately. I have sort of a phobia, or aversion of sorts at least, to a lot of meat products and so already hardly eat flesh as it is.

I could never go vegan though. I love ice cream too much. And when I say ice cream, I do mean frozen cream, not that vile soy garbage my veg friends have lied to me about being ice cream.

The sickest-looking people I know are vegetarians. Skinny, but dark around the eyes, and just a very heroin-addicted look altogether in most cases. I have never known a vegetarian who looked like they were brimming with health. We have a BIOLOGICAL imperative to eat meat. We are NOT cows. Our ancestors hunted AND gathered. If we were meant to eat only vegetables, don't you think it would have made sense for our ancestors to have JUST gathered? You know why they didn't JUST gather? Because humanity is HARDWIRED to hunt down, kill and cook M-E-A-T. And enjoy the hell out of that shit. So-called modern "evolved" men and women can, unlike most other animals, override their own genetic hardwiring, usually causing untold damage to themselves, which then must be hidden as best as possible so that the illusion of "victory over nature" can be maintained and they can continue to feel superior to us lesser meat-eaters. What fucking ever.. I think vegetarians have some real misanthropy going on and rebelling against the normal diet is their way of giving the finger to the world. Vegetarianism in my experience is almost always ideological.
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He looks like Skeletor in Maybelline.