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Freeganism..have u heard of it and what do u think?

Im not sure if this is the right forum to post this but here goes...
I have never really heard of this until watching Wife Swap UK the other night and while on some level I get where they might be coming from I have real issues with some of it and dumpster diving raises a whole bunch of health related issues for me...so if u have some time have a read and see what u think. Tis infor is all from this site
http://freegan.info/ Oh and just to add...even Jesus had a Job!!
Freegans are people who employ alternative strategies for living based on limited participation in the conventional economy and minimal consumption of resources. Freegans embrace community, generosity, social concern, freedom, cooperation, and sharing in opposition to a society based on materialism, moral apathy, competition, conformity, and greed.

After years of trying to boycott products from unethical corporations responsible for human rights violations, environmental destruction, and animal abuse, many of us found that no matter what we bought we ended up supporting something deplorable. We came to realize that the problem isn’t just a few bad corporations but the entire system itself.

Freeganism is a total boycott of an economic system where the profit motive has eclipsed ethical considerations and where massively complex systems of productions ensure that all the products we buy will have detrimental impacts most of which we may never even consider. Thus, instead of avoiding the purchase of products from one bad company only to support another, we avoid buying anything to the greatest degree we are able.

The word freegan is compounded from “free” and “vegan”. Vegans are people who avoid products from animal sources or products tested on animals in an effort to avoid harming animals. Freegans take this a step further by recognizing that in a complex, industrial, mass-production economy driven by profit, abuses of humans, animals, and the earth abound at all levels of production (from acquisition to raw materials to production to transportation) and in just about every product we buy. Sweatshop labor, rainforest destruction, global warming, displacement of indigenous communities, air and water pollution, eradication of wildlife on farmland as “pests”, the violent overthrow of popularly elected governments to maintain puppet dictators compliant to big business interests, open-pit strip mining, oil drilling in environmentally sensitive areas, union busting, child slavery, and payoffs to repressive regimes are just some of the many impacts of the seemingly innocuous consumer products we consume every day.

Freegans employ a range of strategies for practical living based on our principles:
We live in an economic system where sellers only value land and commodities relative to their capacity to generate profit. Consumers are constantly being bombarded with advertising telling them to discard and replace the goods they already have because this increases sales. This practice of affluent societies produces an amount of waste so enormous that many people can be fed and supported simply on its trash. As freegans we forage instead of buying to avoid being wasteful consumers ourselves, to politically challenge the injustice of allowing vital resources to be wasted while multitudes lack basic necessities like food, clothing, and shelter, and to reduce the waste going to landfills and incinerators which are disproportionately situated within poor, non-white neighborhoods, where they cause elevated levels of cancer and asthma.

Perhaps the most notorious freegan strategy is what is commonly called “urban foraging” or “dumpster diving”. This technique involves rummaging through the garbage of retailers, residences, offices, and other facilities for useful goods. Despite our society’s sterotypes about garbage, the goods recovered by freegans are safe, useable, clean, and in perfect or near-perfect condition, a symptom of a throwaway culture that encourages us to constantly replace our older goods with newer ones, and where retailers plan high-volume product disposal as part of their economic model. Some urban foragers go at it alone, others dive in groups, but we always share the discoveries openly with one another and with anyone along the way who wants them. Groups like Food Not Bombs recover foods that would otherwise go to waste and use them to prepare meals to share in public places with anyone who wishes to partake.

By recovering the discards of retailers, offices, schools, homes, hotels, or anywhere by rummaging through their trash bins, dumpsters, and trash bags, freegans are able to obtain food, beverages, books, toiletries magazines, comic books, newspapers, videos, kitchenware, appliances, music (CDs, cassettes, records, etc.), carpets, musical instruments, clothing, rollerblades, scooters, furniture, vitamins, electronics, animal care products, games, toys, bicycles, artwork, and just about any other type of consumer good. Rather than contributing to further waste, freegans curtail garbage and pollution, reducing the over-all volume in the waste stream.

Lots of used items can also be found for free or shared with others on websites like Freecycle and in the free section of your local Craigslist. To dispose of useful materials check out the EPA’s Materials and Waste Exchanges directory. In communities around the country, people are holding events like “Really, Really, Free Markets” and “Freemeets”. These events are akin to flea markets with free items. People bring items to share with others. They give and take but not a dollar is exchanged. When freegans do need to buy, we buy second-hand goods which reduces production and supports reusing and reducing what would have been wasted without providing any additional funds for new production.
Because of our frequent sojourns into the discards our throwaway society, freegans are very aware of and disgusted by the enormous amounts of waste the average US consumer generates and thus choose not to be a part of the problem. So, freegans scrupulously recycle, compost organic matter into topsoil, and repair rather than replace items whenever possible. Anything unusable by us, we redistribute to our friends, at freemarkets, or using internet services like freecycle and craigslist.
Freegans recognize the disastrous social and ecological impacts of the automobile. We all know that automobiles cause pollution created from the burning of petroleum but we usually don’t think of the other destruction factors like forests being eliminated from road building in wilderness areas and collision deaths of humans and wildlife. As well, the massive oil use today creates the economic impetus for slaughter in Iraq and all over the world. Therefore, freegans choose not to use cars for the most part. Rather, we use other methods of transportation including trainhopping, hitchhiking, walking, skating, and biking. Hitchhiking fills up room in a car that would have been unused otherwise and therefore it does not add to the overall consumption of cars and gasoline.

Some freegans find at least some use of cars unavoidable so we try to eliminate our dependence on fossil fuels by using cars with desiel engines converted to run on ?reisel or “veggie-oil” literally fueling our cars with used fryer oil from restaurants - another example of diverting waste for practical use. Volunteer groups are forming everywhere to assist people in converting diesel engines to run on vegetable oil.

Freegans believe that housing is a RIGHT, not a privilege. Just as freegans consider it an atrocity for people to starve while food is thrown away, we are also outraged that people literally freeze to death on the streets while landlords and cities keep buildings boarded up and vacant because they can? turn a profit on making them available as housing.

Squatters are people who occupy and rehabilitate abandoned, decrepit buildings. Squatters believe that real human needs are more important than abstract notions of private property, and that those who hold deed to buildings but won? allow people to live in them, even in places where housing is vitally needed, don? deserve to own those buildings. In addition to living areas, squatters often convert abandoned buildings into community centers with programs including art activities for children, environmental education, meetings of community organizations, and more.

We live in a society where the foods that we eat are often grown a world away, overprocessed, and then transported long distances to be stored for too long, all at a high ecological cost. Because of this process, we’ve lost appreciation for the changes in season and the cycles of life but some of us are reconnecting to the Earth through gardening and wild foraging.

Many urban ecologists have been turning garbage-filled abandoned lots into verdant community garden plots. In neighborhoods where stores are more likely to carry junk food than fresh greens, community gardens provide a health food source. Where the air is choked with asthma inducing pollutants, the trees in community gardens produce oxygen. In landscapes dominated by brick, concrete, and asphalt, community gardens provide an oasis of plants, open spaces, and places for communities to come together, work together, share food, grow together, and break down the barriers that keep people apart in a society where we have all become too isolated from one another.

Wild foragers demonstrate that we can feed ourselves without supermarkets and treat our illnesses without pharmacies by familiarizing ourselves with the edible and medicinal plants growing all around us. Even city parks can yield useful foods and medicines, giving us a renewed appreciation of the reality that our sustenance comes ultimately not from corporate food producers, but from the Earth itself. Others take the foraging lifestyle even farther, removing themselves from urban and suburban concepts and attempting to “go feral” by building communities in the wilderness based on primitive survival skills.

How much of our lives do we sacrifice to pay bills and buy more stuff? For most of us, work means sacrificing our freedom to take orders from someone else, stress, boredom, monotony, and in many cases risks to our physical and psychological well-being.

Once we realize that it’s not a few bad products or a few egregious companies responsible for the social and ecological abuses in our world but rather the entire system we are working in, we begin to realize that, as workers, we are cogs in a machine of violence, death, exploitation, and destruction. Is the retail clerk who rings up a cut of veal any less responsible for the cruelty of factory farming than the farm worker? What about the ad designer who finds ways to make the product palatable? How about the accountant who does the grocery? books and allows it to stay in business? Or the worker in the factory that manufacturers refrigerator cases? And, of course, the high level managers of the corporations bear the greatest responsibility of all for they make the decisions which causes the destruction and waste. You don’t have to own stock in a corporation or own a factory or chemical plant to be held to blame.

By accounting for the basic necessities of food, clothing, housing, furniture, and transportation without spending a dime, freegans are able to greatly reduce or altogether eliminate the need to constantly be employed. We can instead devote our time to caring for our families, volunteering in our communities, and joining activist groups to fight the practices of the corporations who would otherwise be bossing us around at work. For some, total unemployment isn? an option it? far harder to find free dental surgery than a free bookcase on the curb but by limiting our financial needs, even those of us who need to work can place conscious limits on how much we work, take control of our lives, and escape the constant pressure to make ends meet. But even if we must work, we need not cede total control to the bosses. The freegan spirit of cooperative empowerment can be extended into the workplace as part of worker-led unions like the Industrial Workers of the World.
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Reply #1 posted 03/30/09 2:08am

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chillichocaholic said:

Im not sure if this is the right forum to post this but here goes...
I have never really heard of this until watching Wife Swap UK the other night and while on some level I get where they might be coming from I have real issues with some of it and dumpster diving raises a whole bunch of health related issues for me...so if u have some time have a read and see what u think. Tis infor is all from this site
http://freegan.info/ Oh and just to add...even Jesus had a Job!!
Freegans are people who employ alternative strategies for living based on limited participation in the conventional economy and minimal consumption of resources. Freegans embrace community, generosity, social concern, freedom, cooperation, and sharing in opposition to a society based on materialism, moral apathy, competition, conformity, and greed.

After years of trying to boycott products from unethical corporations responsible for human rights violations, environmental destruction, and animal abuse, many of us found that no matter what we bought we ended up supporting something deplorable. We came to realize that the problem isn’t just a few bad corporations but the entire system itself.

Freeganism is a total boycott of an economic system where the profit motive has eclipsed ethical considerations and where massively complex systems of productions ensure that all the products we buy will have detrimental impacts most of which we may never even consider. Thus, instead of avoiding the purchase of products from one bad company only to support another, we avoid buying anything to the greatest degree we are able.

The word freegan is compounded from “free” and “vegan”. Vegans are people who avoid products from animal sources or products tested on animals in an effort to avoid harming animals. Freegans take this a step further by recognizing that in a complex, industrial, mass-production economy driven by profit, abuses of humans, animals, and the earth abound at all levels of production (from acquisition to raw materials to production to transportation) and in just about every product we buy. Sweatshop labor, rainforest destruction, global warming, displacement of indigenous communities, air and water pollution, eradication of wildlife on farmland as “pests”, the violent overthrow of popularly elected governments to maintain puppet dictators compliant to big business interests, open-pit strip mining, oil drilling in environmentally sensitive areas, union busting, child slavery, and payoffs to repressive regimes are just some of the many impacts of the seemingly innocuous consumer products we consume every day.

Freegans employ a range of strategies for practical living based on our principles:
We live in an economic system where sellers only value land and commodities relative to their capacity to generate profit. Consumers are constantly being bombarded with advertising telling them to discard and replace the goods they already have because this increases sales. This practice of affluent societies produces an amount of waste so enormous that many people can be fed and supported simply on its trash. As freegans we forage instead of buying to avoid being wasteful consumers ourselves, to politically challenge the injustice of allowing vital resources to be wasted while multitudes lack basic necessities like food, clothing, and shelter, and to reduce the waste going to landfills and incinerators which are disproportionately situated within poor, non-white neighborhoods, where they cause elevated levels of cancer and asthma.

Perhaps the most notorious freegan strategy is what is commonly called “urban foraging” or “dumpster diving”. This technique involves rummaging through the garbage of retailers, residences, offices, and other facilities for useful goods. Despite our society’s sterotypes about garbage, the goods recovered by freegans are safe, useable, clean, and in perfect or near-perfect condition, a symptom of a throwaway culture that encourages us to constantly replace our older goods with newer ones, and where retailers plan high-volume product disposal as part of their economic model. Some urban foragers go at it alone, others dive in groups, but we always share the discoveries openly with one another and with anyone along the way who wants them. Groups like Food Not Bombs recover foods that would otherwise go to waste and use them to prepare meals to share in public places with anyone who wishes to partake.

By recovering the discards of retailers, offices, schools, homes, hotels, or anywhere by rummaging through their trash bins, dumpsters, and trash bags, freegans are able to obtain food, beverages, books, toiletries magazines, comic books, newspapers, videos, kitchenware, appliances, music (CDs, cassettes, records, etc.), carpets, musical instruments, clothing, rollerblades, scooters, furniture, vitamins, electronics, animal care products, games, toys, bicycles, artwork, and just about any other type of consumer good. Rather than contributing to further waste, freegans curtail garbage and pollution, reducing the over-all volume in the waste stream.

Lots of used items can also be found for free or shared with others on websites like Freecycle and in the free section of your local Craigslist. To dispose of useful materials check out the EPA’s Materials and Waste Exchanges directory. In communities around the country, people are holding events like “Really, Really, Free Markets” and “Freemeets”. These events are akin to flea markets with free items. People bring items to share with others. They give and take but not a dollar is exchanged. When freegans do need to buy, we buy second-hand goods which reduces production and supports reusing and reducing what would have been wasted without providing any additional funds for new production.
Because of our frequent sojourns into the discards our throwaway society, freegans are very aware of and disgusted by the enormous amounts of waste the average US consumer generates and thus choose not to be a part of the problem. So, freegans scrupulously recycle, compost organic matter into topsoil, and repair rather than replace items whenever possible. Anything unusable by us, we redistribute to our friends, at freemarkets, or using internet services like freecycle and craigslist.
Freegans recognize the disastrous social and ecological impacts of the automobile. We all know that automobiles cause pollution created from the burning of petroleum but we usually don’t think of the other destruction factors like forests being eliminated from road building in wilderness areas and collision deaths of humans and wildlife. As well, the massive oil use today creates the economic impetus for slaughter in Iraq and all over the world. Therefore, freegans choose not to use cars for the most part. Rather, we use other methods of transportation including trainhopping, hitchhiking, walking, skating, and biking. Hitchhiking fills up room in a car that would have been unused otherwise and therefore it does not add to the overall consumption of cars and gasoline.

Some freegans find at least some use of cars unavoidable so we try to eliminate our dependence on fossil fuels by using cars with desiel engines converted to run on ?reisel or “veggie-oil” literally fueling our cars with used fryer oil from restaurants - another example of diverting waste for practical use. Volunteer groups are forming everywhere to assist people in converting diesel engines to run on vegetable oil.

Freegans believe that housing is a RIGHT, not a privilege. Just as freegans consider it an atrocity for people to starve while food is thrown away, we are also outraged that people literally freeze to death on the streets while landlords and cities keep buildings boarded up and vacant because they can? turn a profit on making them available as housing.

Squatters are people who occupy and rehabilitate abandoned, decrepit buildings. Squatters believe that real human needs are more important than abstract notions of private property, and that those who hold deed to buildings but won? allow people to live in them, even in places where housing is vitally needed, don? deserve to own those buildings. In addition to living areas, squatters often convert abandoned buildings into community centers with programs including art activities for children, environmental education, meetings of community organizations, and more.

We live in a society where the foods that we eat are often grown a world away, overprocessed, and then transported long distances to be stored for too long, all at a high ecological cost. Because of this process, we’ve lost appreciation for the changes in season and the cycles of life but some of us are reconnecting to the Earth through gardening and wild foraging.

Many urban ecologists have been turning garbage-filled abandoned lots into verdant community garden plots. In neighborhoods where stores are more likely to carry junk food than fresh greens, community gardens provide a health food source. Where the air is choked with asthma inducing pollutants, the trees in community gardens produce oxygen. In landscapes dominated by brick, concrete, and asphalt, community gardens provide an oasis of plants, open spaces, and places for communities to come together, work together, share food, grow together, and break down the barriers that keep people apart in a society where we have all become too isolated from one another.

Wild foragers demonstrate that we can feed ourselves without supermarkets and treat our illnesses without pharmacies by familiarizing ourselves with the edible and medicinal plants growing all around us. Even city parks can yield useful foods and medicines, giving us a renewed appreciation of the reality that our sustenance comes ultimately not from corporate food producers, but from the Earth itself. Others take the foraging lifestyle even farther, removing themselves from urban and suburban concepts and attempting to “go feral” by building communities in the wilderness based on primitive survival skills.

How much of our lives do we sacrifice to pay bills and buy more stuff? For most of us, work means sacrificing our freedom to take orders from someone else, stress, boredom, monotony, and in many cases risks to our physical and psychological well-being.

Once we realize that it’s not a few bad products or a few egregious companies responsible for the social and ecological abuses in our world but rather the entire system we are working in, we begin to realize that, as workers, we are cogs in a machine of violence, death, exploitation, and destruction. Is the retail clerk who rings up a cut of veal any less responsible for the cruelty of factory farming than the farm worker? What about the ad designer who finds ways to make the product palatable? How about the accountant who does the grocery? books and allows it to stay in business? Or the worker in the factory that manufacturers refrigerator cases? And, of course, the high level managers of the corporations bear the greatest responsibility of all for they make the decisions which causes the destruction and waste. You don’t have to own stock in a corporation or own a factory or chemical plant to be held to blame.

By accounting for the basic necessities of food, clothing, housing, furniture, and transportation without spending a dime, freegans are able to greatly reduce or altogether eliminate the need to constantly be employed. We can instead devote our time to caring for our families, volunteering in our communities, and joining activist groups to fight the practices of the corporations who would otherwise be bossing us around at work. For some, total unemployment isn? an option it? far harder to find free dental surgery than a free bookcase on the curb but by limiting our financial needs, even those of us who need to work can place conscious limits on how much we work, take control of our lives, and escape the constant pressure to make ends meet. But even if we must work, we need not cede total control to the bosses. The freegan spirit of cooperative empowerment can be extended into the workplace as part of worker-led unions like the Industrial Workers of the World.


the point of their interests may not jibe with what we know about society as it stands today concerning the internet, but note the need to have these skills require success as a means of survival sans technological development

cheers!
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Reply #2 posted 03/30/09 6:39am

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hats off to them. it's not easy to do, and if nothing else, they prompt discussion about our wasteful lifestyles.
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Reply #3 posted 03/30/09 6:46am

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

hats off to them. it's not easy to do, and if nothing else, they prompt discussion about our wasteful lifestyles.


That's pretty much how I feel about it. Great if someone can make it work for themselves. Me - I don't want to live like that. But it DOES make you/me think about what we can do, where our money goes, etc. Every small step in the right direction helps.
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Reply #4 posted 03/30/09 6:57am

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CarrieMpls said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:

hats off to them. it's not easy to do, and if nothing else, they prompt discussion about our wasteful lifestyles.


That's pretty much how I feel about it. Great if someone can make it work for themselves. Me - I don't want to live like that. But it DOES make you/me think about what we can do, where our money goes, etc. Every small step in the right direction helps.


nod my biggest pet peeve lately has been the overuse of batteries, which inevitably end up in our landfills. seems like so many more products are now battery-operated, and we don't even think about it.

do we really need these kinds of things?







(yes, those are battery-operated foot warmers)

at what point did lighting a great-smelling candle, blowing your own bubbles or wearing a pair of socks become too troublesome?
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Reply #5 posted 03/30/09 7:08am

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I LOVE YOU CHILLI love
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Reply #6 posted 03/30/09 7:28am

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i know people who incorporate both in their lifestyle.

but i do get nasty feeling when people have to comment on the things i do and how i spend my money.

i feel i choose to do this 'freegan' in a way by spending my money on second hand things instead of consuming newly manufactured.

i feel i also conserve when i go to buy something, i dont waste money on something that is second rate or going to fall apart or be obsolete in a couple years time.

but because you choose to consume unwanted vegetables that you picked from the dumpster, doesn't mean i should be forced eat it to be polite.

For instance a friend of mine brought some real effed up bread, if you could even call it that, to a christmas dinner and made us feel super guilty the whole time that we didnt eat it.

Went on and on about how she rushed home after work to have it made in time before she came to my home. rolleyes i could just tell that the ingredients were from the garbage.
Who makes loaves of bread with curry and full of red and green peppers and onions?
It wasnt bread. It was her experimenting with her un-wasted garbage.
She ate it all before she left to make us feel guilty, because of her OCD with not wasting anything.
I told her before hand when she asked if she should make anything, to make regular bread to go with what we were eating, or its likely she would get her feelings hurt because we wouldn't eat it. shrug
I always get 'made fun of' or commented on that I throw too much food out.
The most i throw out is rotten veggies like mixed greens or maybe and orange that has been in the fridge 3 months too long.
If i find expired canned goods in my cupboard, that i decide im unwilling to consume, i take them to the shelter.
OR maybe why i think she thinks this, is when she comes to my house i load her up with a couple grocery bags full of various things, just to be nice, and insist that im not going to eat them so she doent feel bad taking them. shrug
But i aint eating you damnn garbage food!
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Reply #7 posted 03/30/09 7:30am

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but im glad you posted this chilli
so i can be informed
and know how to fend off the garbage bread
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Reply #8 posted 03/30/09 7:31am

Mach

IrresistibleB1tch said:

hats off to them. it's not easy to do, and if nothing else, they prompt discussion about our wasteful lifestyles.


nod I agree - food for thought is always good !
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Reply #9 posted 03/30/09 7:34am

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I read about this in a magazine just last week! One woman got all of her clothes, furniture, food, and even her baby's things out of NYC dumpsters clapping ....whereas, I admire that, I could not do it!

but I do try not to be wasteful, and I always check out the discount produce bin first lol (one man's bruised fruit is another man's fruit salad)
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Reply #10 posted 03/30/09 7:34am

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Cuddles said:

i know people who incorporate both in their lifestyle.

but i do get nasty feeling when people have to comment on the things i do and how i spend my money.

i feel i choose to do this 'freegan' in a way by spending my money on second hand things instead of consuming newly manufactured.

i feel i also conserve when i go to buy something, i dont waste money on something that is second rate or going to fall apart or be obsolete in a couple years time.

but because you choose to consume unwanted vegetables that you picked from the dumpster, doesn't mean i should be forced eat it to be polite.

For instance a friend of mine brought some real effed up bread, if you could even call it that, to a christmas dinner and made us feel super guilty the whole time that we didnt eat it.

Went on and on about how she rushed home after work to have it made in time before she came to my home. rolleyes i could just tell that the ingredients were from the garbage.
Who makes loaves of bread with curry and full of red and green peppers and onions?
It wasnt bread. It was her experimenting with her un-wasted garbage.
She ate it all before she left to make us feel guilty, because of her OCD with not wasting anything.
I told her before hand when she asked if she should make anything, to make regular bread to go with what we were eating, or its likely she would get her feelings hurt because we wouldn't eat it. shrug
I always get 'made fun of' or commented on that I throw too much food out.
The most i throw out is rotten veggies like mixed greens or maybe and orange that has been in the fridge 3 months too long.
If i find expired canned goods in my cupboard, that i decide im unwilling to consume, i take them to the shelter.
OR maybe why i think she thinks this, is when she comes to my house i load her up with a couple grocery bags full of various things, just to be nice, and insist that im not going to eat them so she doent feel bad taking them. shrug
But i aint eating you damnn garbage food!


im poor! and i eat your "so called" garbage bread because i have to! who are you trying to judge... mutant!

cheers!
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Reply #11 posted 04/01/09 3:35pm

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Cuddles said:

I LOVE YOU CHILLI love

redface touched awwwww kiss2
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Reply #12 posted 04/01/09 3:37pm

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Cuddles said:

but im glad you posted this chilli
so i can be informed
and know how to fend off the garbage bread

spit dammit stop making me laugh....hey that could be a new movie hmmm Attack Of The Garbage Bread...couldn't be any worse than rehashed movies like ALien Vs Predator lol
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Reply #13 posted 04/01/09 6:58pm

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My brother...knows a lot about this...not quite practices it...but he's well versed in it.
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Reply #14 posted 04/01/09 7:05pm

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In my day, it was called 'dumpster diving' smile
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Reply #15 posted 04/01/09 7:08pm

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No and no.
We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #16 posted 04/01/09 9:29pm

chillichocahol
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Genesia said:

No and no.

What's the second no for? lol
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Reply #17 posted 04/01/09 9:30pm

chillichocahol
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thekidsgirl said:

In my day, it was called 'dumpster diving' smile

So it was u who's legs I saw sticking up out of a dumpster once? eek eek









evillol





As far as I know it's still called that lol
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Reply #18 posted 04/01/09 9:36pm

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thekidsgirl said:

I read about this in a magazine just last week! One woman got all of her clothes, furniture, food, and even her baby's things out of NYC dumpsters clapping ....whereas, I admire that, I could not do it!

but I do try not to be wasteful, and I always check out the discount produce bin first lol (one man's bruised fruit is another man's fruit salad)


I was trying to read the very same article while on the checkout line at the grocery store. But then it was my turn so I put the mag back. mad
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Reply #19 posted 04/01/09 9:42pm

kimrachell

no thanks, after being homeless for over a year as a kid, i don't love the idea of digging in the trash can for dinner. confused
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Reply #20 posted 04/01/09 10:02pm

ZombieKitten

I love the nature strip love
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Reply #21 posted 04/01/09 10:21pm

pplrain

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Yes, I try to recycle products as much as I can in my work.
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Reply #22 posted 04/02/09 12:55am

chillichocahol
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pplrain said:

Yes, I try to recycle products as much as I can in my work.

U can't be a freegan...freegans dont work dontcha know nod
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PRINCE IS WATCHING U evillol" When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate

U can't polish a turd.. but u can roll it in glitter
In my Profile Pic
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Reply #23 posted 04/02/09 1:17am

BlueZebra

we used to call them parasites shrug
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Reply #24 posted 04/02/09 3:25am

eaglebear4839

This reminds me of the "welfare burger" joke in Eddie Murphy's Raw.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...voBCr7E5qo
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Went on and on about how she rushed home after work to have it made in time before she came to my home. rolleyes i could just tell that the ingredients were from the garbage.
Who makes loaves of bread with curry and full of red and green peppers and onions?
It wasnt bread. It was her experimenting with her un-wasted garbage.
She ate it all before she left to make us feel guilty, because of her OCD with not wasting anything.
I told her before hand when she asked if she should make anything, to make regular bread to go with what we were eating, or its likely she would get her feelings hurt because we wouldn't eat it. shrug
I always get 'made fun of' or commented on that I throw too much food out.
The most i throw out is rotten veggies like mixed greens or maybe and orange that has been in the fridge 3 months too long.
If i find expired canned goods in my cupboard, that i decide im unwilling to consume, i take them to the shelter.
OR maybe why i think she thinks this, is when she comes to my house i load her up with a couple grocery bags full of various things, just to be nice, and insist that im not going to eat them so she doent feel bad taking them. shrug
But i aint eating you damnn garbage food![/quote]
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Reply #25 posted 04/02/09 4:37am

Genesia

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chillichocaholic said:

Genesia said:

No and no.

What's the second no for? lol


No, I've never heard of it - and no way in hell would I ever do it.
We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #26 posted 04/02/09 5:37am

ocean

My attention span is to small to read all that confused lol
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Reply #27 posted 04/02/09 6:35am

Lammastide

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I pretty much feel about it the way most who've already posted do. I admire the radical sustainability Freegans take up -- and many of us could perhaps borrow certain workable ideas from them -- but I'm in no way ready to go that far personally.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #28 posted 04/02/09 8:02am

BlueZebra

fact is, if we all would become freegans, there wouldn't be a lot to forage ... they live by the grace of a consuming society. A freegan is just a pink parasite, nothing more.
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Reply #29 posted 04/02/09 9:14am

pplrain

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chillichocaholic said:

pplrain said:

Yes, I try to recycle products as much as I can in my work.

U can't be a freegan...freegans dont work dontcha know nod
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Chilli, I didn't say I was a freegan, but I have heard of them and do believe in some of their ideas. I do believe as a western society we consume and waste a lot of product which in turn depletes the limited energy resources on this planet.
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