JustErin said: 1sexymf said: Lol, I know. Now, let's make out. How's that for morals? Only if you promise to use lots of tongue. | |
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1sexymf said: JustErin said: Now, let's make out. How's that for morals? Only if you promise to use lots of tongue. Of course! | |
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1sexymf said: pplrain said: I am not narrow minded nor stupid... I just live by a higher standard of morals and I am proud of it. I'm sure you've made no mistakes, cursed, drank, smoked and shook your finger at anyone who would even dare to form a thought about any of those things let alone doing a such a "moraless" thing as stripping. Goody for you. Who the fuck are you to judge me? See I just swore... | |
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pplrain said: 1sexymf said: I'm sure you've made no mistakes, cursed, drank, smoked and shook your finger at anyone who would even dare to form a thought about any of those things let alone doing a such a "moraless" thing as stripping. Goody for you. Who the fuck are you to judge me? See I just swore... Sweetie, I am not the one that was rushing to judge anyone in here. I decided to chime in when the "Org Puritans" rushed to judge and make broad generalizations. Now pipe down - you;re interruption me and JustErin's moraless make-out session. | |
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pplrain said: 1sexymf said: I'm sure you've made no mistakes, cursed, drank, smoked and shook your finger at anyone who would even dare to form a thought about any of those things let alone doing a such a "moraless" thing as stripping. Goody for you. Who the fuck are you to judge me? See I just swore... Ouch. The irony in this post hurts. | |
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JustErin said: pplrain said: Who the fuck are you to judge me? See I just swore... Ouch. The irony in this post hurts. I haven't passed judgement on any org member have I? So there is no "irony" in my statement. I just replied to OP's question and answered a question with my opinion. If you or anyone else don't like it... too bad! [Edited 4/1/09 12:12pm] | |
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JustErin said: sextonseven said: Stripping isn't illegal. I think it's unfair to equate stripping with prostitution. Prostitution isn't illegal in many parts of this world - including Canada. That's a very good point. Who is to say that in countries where prostitution is legal that it's any bigger a jump from stripping than stripping is from say modeling bikinis? | |
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pplrain said: JustErin said: Ouch. The irony in this post hurts. I haven't passed judgement on any org member have I? So there is no "irony" in my statement. I just replied to OP's question and answered a question with my opinion. If you or anyone else don't like it... too bad! [Edited 4/1/09 12:12pm] Does your opinion about strippers apply to the ex-strippers that have posted on this thread? Do you see them as the same as prostitutes and drug addicts? | |
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sextonseven said: pplrain said: I haven't passed judgement on any org member have I? So there is no "irony" in my statement. I just replied to OP's question and answered a question with my opinion. If you or anyone else don't like it... too bad! [Edited 4/1/09 12:12pm] Does your opinion about strippers apply to the ex-strippers that have posted on this thread? Do you see them as the same as prostitutes and drug addicts? I don't know of or care to know of any strippers / prostitutes ex or not in this forum. I just posted my opinion and I am entitled to it by right. | |
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pplrain said: sextonseven said: Does your opinion about strippers apply to the ex-strippers that have posted on this thread? Do you see them as the same as prostitutes and drug addicts? I don't know of or care to know of any strippers / prostitutes ex or not in this forum. I just posted my opinion and I am entitled to it by right. You just asked an ex-stripper who she was a few posts earlier. pplrain said: Who the fuck are you to judge me? | |
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sextonseven said:[quote] pplrain said: You just asked an ex-stripper who she was a few posts earlier. pplrain said: Who the fuck are you to judge me? So what do you want me to do ? Take a shower? | |
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pplrain said: sextonseven said: Does your opinion about strippers apply to the ex-strippers that have posted on this thread? Do you see them as the same as prostitutes and drug addicts? I don't know of or care to know of any strippers / prostitutes ex or not in this forum. I just posted my opinion and I am entitled to it by right. You're absolutely entitled to your opinion, but if you can't see that you're doing exactly what you are pissed about someone doing to you is ironic...well, then...ya, ok. Btw, her judging your ass is also perfectly fine because it's her opinion and she's entitled to it. | |
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pplrain said: So what do you want me to do ? Take a shower?
Are you flirting with me? | |
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JustErin said: pplrain said: I don't know of or care to know of any strippers / prostitutes ex or not in this forum. I just posted my opinion and I am entitled to it by right. You're absolutely entitled to your opinion, but if you can't see that you're doing exactly what you are pissed about someone doing to you is ironic...well, then...ya, ok. Btw, her judging your ass is also perfectly fine because it's her opinion and she's entitled to it. If ya can't take the heat - stay da hell outta da kitchen. (not you Erin) | |
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pplrain said: 1sexymf said: I'm sure you've made no mistakes, cursed, drank, smoked and shook your finger at anyone who would even dare to form a thought about any of those things let alone doing a such a "moraless" thing as stripping. Goody for you. Who the fuck are you to judge me? See I just swore... who the fuck are YOU to judge others? | |
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pplrain said: JustErin said: Ouch. The irony in this post hurts. I haven't passed judgement on any org member have I? So there is no "irony" in my statement. um, maybe not directly, but, yes, you have. By pounding your "moral standard" chest. | |
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JerseyKRS said: pplrain said: I haven't passed judgement on any org member have I? So there is no "irony" in my statement. um, maybe not directly, but, yes, you have. By pounding your "moral standard" chest. It's ok to judge people just as long as you don't do it to their face. | |
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MarySharon said: DesireeNevermind said: If a woman is taking off her clothes for money...she is already being exploited in some fashion by some one. I would be a good pimp, make sure they had money in their hand unlike the male pimps who control every dollar, keep the freaks who want to hurt them away, get them top dollar, buy some police protection etc. I wont say I think less of women who strip - that is way too broad a statement - less how? you mean their right to live or something? I just think in this day and age and if you live in a western nation, there is no reason why a woman can't make a living the way a man would and no reason why she can't use her brains over her pussy to make money. This post was directed at female orgers, and most sex industry workers are female, the perception is that women are only valued for their sex parts. I'd like to think women have advanced beyond that but if you think that all women are good for is selling their bodies be it on the pole or on the street corner then that's your deal. And Besides, why is it okay for a man to be a pimp and not a woman? If I'm going to live in a world where money and sexploitation is the rule then why wouldn't I be a pimp in hard economic times? We call them madams which I never understood but wuteva! Bottome line is I hate to see women resort to selling their bodies cuz I think there are too many damn options, noble ways, to make money and too much government assistance for a woman to have to resort to that - plus she feeds the mentality that all we have to offer and all we're worth is what's between our legs. I think the whole stripping thing is actually more about vanity and laziness. I think there are women who want the quick buck and don't really want to work hard for their money- aka use their brains, develop long term goals and skills that will last them well into retirement and beyond. I guess in the end if you would do it for free then why not get paid. Think twice if someday you're evicted from your house and have to sleep in the street, it could happen anytime to anybody... Ive been evicted 3 times in my life and have lived in my car. Never have I gotten on the poll or on the street corner. I use my knowledge and work skills to get over the temporary financial hump ( no pun intended). I have a college education and since graduating, have never experienced a setback such as homelessness. I have many skills which provides me many employment options. Its all about education. Men understand this, why women don't is beyond me! | |
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meow85 said: DesireeNevermind said: If a woman is taking off her clothes for money...she is already being exploited in some fashion by some one. I would be a good pimp, make sure they had money in their hand unlike the male pimps who control every dollar, keep the freaks who want to hurt them away, get them top dollar, buy some police protection etc. I wont say I think less of women who strip - that is way too broad a statement - less how? you mean their right to live or something? I just think in this day and age and if you live in a western nation, there is no reason why a woman can't make a living the way a man would and no reason why she can't use her brains over her pussy to make money. This post was directed at female orgers, and most sex industry workers are female, the perception is that women are only valued for their sex parts. I'd like to think women have advanced beyond that but if you think that all women are good for is selling their bodies be it on the pole or on the street corner then that's your deal. And Besides, why is it okay for a man to be a pimp and not a woman? If I'm going to live in a world where money and sexploitation is the rule then why wouldn't I be a pimp in hard economic times? We call them madams which I never understood but wuteva! Bottome line is I hate to see women resort to selling their bodies cuz I think there are too many damn options, noble ways, to make money and too much government assistance for a woman to have to resort to that - plus she feeds the mentality that all we have to offer and all we're worth is what's between our legs. I think the whole stripping thing is actually more about vanity and laziness. I think there are women who want the quick buck and don't really want to work hard for their money- aka use their brains, develop long term goals and skills that will last them well into retirement and beyond. I guess in the end if you would do it for free then why not get paid. I don't have the words for how dumb and ill-informed this post is. Apparently you don't have the open mindedness or thought process for how wise my post is. Its cool - you can't please or educate everybody. Have fun on the poll. I got 5 dolla 4 you. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: MarySharon said: Think twice if someday you're evicted from your house and have to sleep in the street, it could happen anytime to anybody... Ive been evicted 3 times in my life and have lived in my car. Never have I gotten on the poll or on the street corner. I use my knowledge and work skills to get over the temporary financial hump ( no pun intended). I have a college education and since graduating, have never experienced a setback such as homelessness. I have many skills which provides me many employment options. Its all about education. Men understand this, why women don't is beyond me! I never did lapdance nor took my clothes off. I've never been a prostitute either. Yet I don't see the point in looking down upon strippers or prostitutes the way people do in this thread. I haven't been fortunate enough to graduate before running away from home so I guess being ressourceful was the key to cope. I was homeless and spent countless nights unloading trucks among many other hard tasks. Speaking of which you can never know why one sinks into prostitution. You don't know their story do you... How would I react if I had 24 hours to gather $5000 for a bailiff? How would you? for that I'll never allow myself to judge others this way. Morality or survival instinct? Which one is stronger? Why can't people be selfless for a change???!!!! [Edited 4/13/09 13:48pm] Is there any place of refuge one can flee from this insanity | |
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hokie said: MarySharon said: I'm retired
How did you become one in the first place? Inquiring minds want to know... Translation= I want to know. Topless or total nudity? That is if you are comfortable saying so. Are you going to try out | |
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ZombieKitten said: nobody is gonna pay to see me naked, or rather if they paid in advance, they will want their money back
I would pay | |
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kpowers said: hokie said: How did you become one in the first place? Inquiring minds want to know... Translation= I want to know. Topless or total nudity? That is if you are comfortable saying so. Are you going to try out Trust me. You don't want to see that. | |
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hokie said: kpowers said: Are you going to try out Trust me. You don't want to see that. Let me be the judge of that | |
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MarySharon said: DesireeNevermind said: Ive been evicted 3 times in my life and have lived in my car. Never have I gotten on the poll or on the street corner. I use my knowledge and work skills to get over the temporary financial hump ( no pun intended). I have a college education and since graduating, have never experienced a setback such as homelessness. I have many skills which provides me many employment options. Its all about education. Men understand this, why women don't is beyond me! I never did lapdance nor took my clothes off. I've never been a prostitute either. Yet I don't see the point in looking down upon strippers or prostitutes the way people so in this thread. I haven't been fortunate enough to graduate before running away from home so I guess being ressourceful was the key to cope. I was homeless and spent countless nights unloading trucks among many other hard tasks. Speaking of which you can never know why one sinks into prostitution. You don't know their story do you... How would I react if I had 24 hours to gather $5000 for a bailiff? How would you? for that I'll never allow myself to judge others this way. Morality or survival instinct? Which one is stronger? Why can't people be selfless for a change???!!!! I feel you but the tone of this whole thread is that women only have the option of STRIPPING or PROSTITUTING in order to survive during hard times and I wholeheartedly reject that assumption and argument. that same mentality could be applied to some inner city youth who seem to think that stealing and selling drugs is the only way out of poverty or some bad situation. I don't think morality and survival instinct are mutually exclusive of one another. One doesn't have to become immoral in order to survive. and if you need $5,000 for a bailiff then maybe you need to spend the time in jail to assess what got you there in the first place. Plus there's always the chance of being released on you own recognizance. Dayum we've covered all kinds of shit in this thread I still say that women have come to far in the world, or at least in my country, to resort to stripping or hooking to pay some fuckin bill. I met a lady the other day at a gas station who was living out of her car so she said. I didn't have any cash on me to give her but she appeared to be doing pretty well pan handling and she was clean and well spoken and apologized to me for even asking. I went back later to give her something but she had moved on. Imagine her reaction if I had said "why don't you try stripping?" | |
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DesireeNevermind said: and if you need $5,000 for a bailiff then maybe you need to spend the time in jail to assess what got you there in the first place. Plus there's always the chance of being released on you own recognizance.
That's the question: "what got you there in the first place?" Why did some women become strippers or prostitutes?" "Why do they owe £5000 to a bailiff?" It doesn't happen only to immature, ignorant or harum-scarum people. all things considered you can be the best to run your bank account, but it doesn't keep you to be crippled with debts. Why? Because your boss can't pay you anymore, you're alone and isolated (did you notice most of the time prostitute, people in need, or homeless don't have any sibling or relative?) Those people are juste unlucky, and going to jail when you're not in fault is unfair. And what if you got kids? Who's going to take care of them? It can be extremely disturbing. I confess I don't know the way law works in your country but in France you don't necessary go to jail if you owe money to a bailiff. You just endure garnishment, attachment, and seizure of property. Thereof you're just expelled whithout respite. So I completely understand why women with kids would rather prostitute themselves to get money quickly instead of inflict such a disturbing situation upon their kids. Is there any place of refuge one can flee from this insanity | |
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MarySharon said: DesireeNevermind said: and if you need $5,000 for a bailiff then maybe you need to spend the time in jail to assess what got you there in the first place. Plus there's always the chance of being released on you own recognizance.
That's the question: "what got you there in the first place?" Why did some women become strippers or prostitutes?" "Why do they owe £5000 to a bailiff?" It doesn't happen only to immature, ignorant or harum-scarum people. all things considered you can be the best to run your bank account, but it doesn't keep you to be crippled with debts. Why? Because your boss can't pay you anymore, you're alone and isolated (did you notice most of the time prostitute, people in need, or homeless don't have any sibling or relative?) Those people are juste unlucky, and going to jail when you're not in fault is unfair. And what if you got kids? Who's going to take care of them? It can be extremely disturbing. I confess I don't know the way law works in your country but in France you don't necessary go to jail if you owe money to a bailiff. You just endure garnishment, attachment, and seizure of property. Thereof you're just expelled whithout respite. So I completely understand why women with kids would rather prostitute themselves to get money quickly instead of inflict such a disturbing situation upon their kids. sometimes they do that in the states...really depends on the circumstance, crime and the judge (whether he feeling sympathetic, too busy, jaile overcrowded or wuteva). I've watched many documentaries on prostitution and pimping and the overwhelming reasons for hookers choosing their occupation seems to be 1) drug addicition & hooking is a way to support their habit. 2) run away from home and get conned by some pimp 3) get seduced by some madam who convinces them to prostitute for what seems like a lot of money. think of that girl that brought down NY governor Eliot Spitzer and in rare instances 4) some misguided chick from a small town comes to a big city for excitement and fame and ends up being a hooker. also, the women never seem to know what they would do instead of hooking which is really sad. How could you not see all the opportunities out their and what other women are doing with their lives. Why would you want to risk your life every night? End up in jail or murdered? Many prostitutes have been raped and robbed and many of them don't even have a high school education. Having kids further complicates the matter cuz some of them have kids in foster care. Again stripping is not hooking but it would be easy to leap from one to the other I imagine. | |
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I'd do it.... as a comedy act | |
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florescent said: I'd do it.... as a comedy act
oh lawd...you just made me think of Showgirls and the heavy set lady who tells dirty jokes in the strip club then flashes her ginormous boobies. | |
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