I will post this again, seeings as no one seemed to listen the first time.

Let's say that I said "all black people are good at basketball." Would that be a fair assumption? "All blonds are stupid." Is that a fair statement? Are either of them correct? Because I see one black person who is an all-star basketball player, does that mean all black people can play sports well? Because I've met one completely retarded blond, are all blonds completely retarded? I think not!

The same goes for any one of you adults finding one teen who is a hoodlum - maybe you see a teen with pants on that don't fit spray-painting public property. But does that mean all teens do it? I don't believe so. Because one teenage kid has problems and doesn't know how to act, does that mean we all don't? Your generalizations repulse me!

And then to see two other teenagers on this thread generalize themselves in this manner makes me sick! What the hell are you doing? You are promoting an image that most older people seem to have of younger people. Rather than just stick that image to the ones who deserve it, it goes against all of us. Are you agreeing with the "adults" on this thread so that they will think you are more intelligent? You are giving yourselves a bad name, you are giving me a bad name.

And then, we have adults on here generalizing those younger than them. It's likely you're all the ones who, maybe 10-15+ years ago were the hoodlums of society. Maybe you acted like total shits when you were younger, but that doesn't mean we all do.

Cherryloon, you've succeeded in making a thread that is completely worthless. Old-people and kid-bashing. Lovely.

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

Oh get over yourself...we were all assholes when we were teens. You're no different!

teller said:

Is it fair that I get grouped with people who can't wear pants that fit, make less than satisfactory grades, have pre-marital sex and make babies, smoke cigarettes/weed/whatever, go out and get drunk, play their music loud enough for anyone in a teen mile radius to go deaf, and whatever else negative you can think of, just because I am the same age as some people who do it?

I think not! Whether I am an asshole or not has nothing to do with it. However, what kind of asshole-group I'm categorized with does.

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

Ok...sorry...you're a very special asshole.

teller said:

That's much better, teller. Thank you.

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

Don't sigh, Battier! I know it's not ALL teens - there's some good ones, my nieces are pretty decent actually, lol. I just seem to see the not-so-nice ones more often & they make a big impression...

Teens, middle-aged and old people piss me off equaly. Teens are just a little more in your face.

when i was a teen

it was old people

in my 30s

its teens


remember

the teacher gave me an F

I got an A

Those who think they are above others piss me off most - nothing to do with age really.

People who intentionally want to hurt others. I guess they find it hard to see how happy other people are, since they are so miserable themselves. They want to bring misery wherever they go, and unfortunately it tends to work.

LaVisHh said:

so true

nasty ass angry at their lot in life venom spitting down with the ship jerk offs

are a timeless

ageless

bunch


for certain

wow! so many serious answers.Of course i don't really believe all my original post,some of it maybe, i've been there (as a teen), and hopefully one day i'll get to be old and grey.Sadly, without generalising i couldn't really think of a way to get something that has been on my mind, out in the open.

how dare you lead us on :LOL:

shausler said:

At least i now know what some of you think, and to say i'm repulsed and shocked is an understatement.Disgraceful!

Thecherryloon said:

I get pissed off at my kids alot! its a very hard time to go through tho. they "DO" know everything dont they? but u cant give up on them. i think eventually they grow up and come around. i did. if not, at least u know you've done your best as a parent. keep talking! thats all one can do. AND set an xample. they tend 2 see more than they hear! OLD PEOPLE; i love em. i like their stories of "the old days". they always seem so sweet, childlike, and morally innocent. a vanishing breed. u want to take care of them like a child. some older ppl can be most difficult, stubborn, even violent. however i dont think we're discussing those that need nursing homes. i loved my grandparents dearly. thats why it broke my heart when my grandmother needed a nursing home & didnt know me after living with us 4 most my life, but the memories r very sweet. i want my kid's kid's to feel the same about me. all of us r getting old one day, and u'll need your kids. time 2 think of that NOW!

It just depends on the teen and senior acts toward people. I dislike teens who are out of control of their lives like do crimes disrespect their family. I dislike seniors who are rude and cranky to people or think they are better than someone just because they might be rich. I used to work at a senior retirement home I got along with some of the senior living there, but some just got on my nerves.

First, setting aside the question of why 1 would spend (waste?) time thinking on whom they dislike..


Yes, unfortunately, there are far too many teens in this society who are too self-focused, superficial, overly agressive (if not outright violent), rude (with or without the solicitation of "advice"), lazy, & waste their time doing things that they should not be doing at their age (i.e. getting drunk)..

BUT LOOK AT THE SOCIETY & THE ENVIRONMENT THESE TEENS ARE COMING UP IN!


For about the last 30 years, this society has done-
& continues to do-
as much as it can to undermine the structure of the "nuclear family"-
the FOUNDATION of a civilized society-
& what you see now (& in the last 10-12 years) is the result of this breakdown.


Yes, many teens are self-focused & self absorbed. This is not a behavior they acquire on their own. Most often they get this from their parents-
when there are 2 of them in the house, actually married..

they see mom &/or dad work 60 hours a week-
every week-
for their own career advancement/gratification, or to pay for that very nice house & those 3 or 4 expensive cars in the driveway..

they see their parents focus on themselves & not pay enough attention to them (the kids,) & they figure out "well, my parents don't value me very much, so why should I value or respect myself?" These are the same kids you see in the mall who nearly knock you over when they walk past you & tell you "get the fuck out my way mutherfucker!" if they don't actually pull a gun out on you..

Rude & disrespectful behavior should NEVER be condoned, but it's important to see where it comes from, the circumstances that allow it to come to be.

These kids see their parents
break up (those who today "bother" to marry in the first place)
shack up,
split up again,
have kids with whomever they happen to be with at that time,
& then repeat these steps in all sorts of pathetic variations because the parents aren't "happy" or they want to "find themselves" (or some other self-focused agenda)..
the kids see this lack of commitment & ask themselves "WHY should I commit to anything? Why should I even bother when my parents don't?"

So, without a stable, caring family environment in which the children can be guided, instructed & disciplined, it’s very easy for these youth to go out & get drunk &/or high, get laid &/or (again) do things that they at that age shouldn’t be doing.


Yes, there are too many rude/lazy/etc. teens wandering around. But there are also lots of young people who are respectful of others, who do invest their time & energy in positive activities that in fact do contribute something positive to society. They are on your street & in your neigborhood. Every hour of every day, there are thousands of teens who do just these types of positive things
BUT
you seldom hear about them because, well..
it’s just not as interesting or as cool as the teens who disrespect their parents, smoke weed, get drunk & high & laid & whatever else..
& so the "good kids" don’t fit the stereotype of the "bad" ones which we actually see & hear so much about!


This society & culture is all about, in large part, INSTANT GRATIFICATION:

"I want what I want, I want it right now,
(regardless of the negative impact it may have on others)
& how DARE you tell me I can’t have it now!"

Then if you say, "well, that's wrong to do/want that" or "well, maybe you should wait to do that" then.. you "hate" that person or you're repressing them or some other negative word or expression they come up with, just because you spoke out. Then, too often, the person wanting the instant gratification gets what they want, but at some point, they pay for that..
& eventually, the rest of society pays for it too.
But hey, the only important thing was to "get what I wanted", regardless of the cost!


In terms of the elderly, there are many old people who seem to go out of their way to be rude or belligerent or cranky, who do think they know everything & try to impose their will or perspective on those younger than them. Elderly folks like these, there really isn't that much you can do with them, except tolerate them when absolutely necessary, & maybe every now & then try to "soften" whatever it is that motivates them to be so unpleasant.


For many elderly people, the unfortunate trade-off of getting old is that 1 does lose many of their facilities, physical &/or mental. It's really hard to imagine what that would be like, to realize that you struggle to remember simple information or that you can't run or walk or do other activities you did so easily not that long ago. Maybe this realization-
& the fact that you really can't do that much to stop this (degenerative) process-
is what pushes some elderly people to be cranky & disrespectful or whatever.
Again, this does NOT condone the negative behavior, but you can see where it comes from.

Maybe more than being scared of technology & "changes" themselves, older people probably fear "the unknown" more, they fear not knowing what will happen to them &/or their loved ones, maybe it's the fear of realizing that they don't have too much more time on this planet & they wonder about where or how they will leave it..
Those who don't have a very spiritual or religious foundation, it's easy to see how they could be scared about that.

For those elderly folks with prejudiced mentalities.. I suppose I could say that it's a.. positive thing.. that this negative mentality goes with them. Me being a "person of color" myself, I certainly don't condone prejudice myself, but I understand that in the "good old days" a lot of people were exposed to this, this was "the norm" & if a person has lived 60 or 70 years thinking the same thing(s), it's probably VERY DIFFICULT to change this way of thinking.


My parents raised me to ALWAYS show respect towards elders. People in their 70s & above, a great majority of them don’t live that long "by accident," which means that despite whatever negative traits or annoying habits they may have, they have done
something
right, & they still have the
WISDOM & EXPERIENCE of ALL THOSE YEARS OF LIVING
to offer to anyone who's open to listening to it,
who wants to hear it.

I am very blessed to still have 1 grandparent- my father's mother- still alive. She's about 94 now, & every time I see her it's a gift, because I don't know if this time will be the last time I ever see her again. Yes, at her age she is much slower, she can’t do many of the things she did 10 years ago, but mentally, she is about as strong as ever, & she always has a positive attitude; that definitely goes a long way.

There is something to be said for "growing old with dignity"..
This is probably what most people would prefer to do, but it’s not always an option.


For me it is a privilege to be able to benefit from the life experience of an elder person by keeping my own mouth closed & listening to them. On those very infrequent occasions I come across 1 of those old, mean, cantankerous types, I politely excuse myself as soon as possible (still showing them a minimum of respect) & get on with my life.

Elderly people- regardless of whatever faults or inconveniences they have- are still here for a reason: in large part, to give all us younger "whippersnappers" a perspective on life (often historical) that we ourselves won't have for many years, if we ever get it at all.


I too am now in my 30s. When I look back at my life when I was a teen, frankly.. I wince a lot.
Still, I can honestly say (& many who knew me then would support this) that I was a good, & generally respectful teenager.. I just did a lot of dumb, BONEHEADED things that made my life (or someone else’s) more difficult.
Damn, damn, damn!
If I only knew then what I know now!



Then, if I am blessed to live into my 80s & beyond, I will really try my best to not be a "burden" to others, yet always be ready to offer my life experience to those who'd want to hear it & benefit from it.


The complaints mentioned in the initial post of this thread are legitimate in that they are based on some teens & elderly who are like it's been described.

It's just as important, however, to remember the circumstances that contribute to these people being the way they are
&
it's important to remember that each of us did at least a few of those bonehead teenage things when we were that age,
&.. 1 day..
most of us will be these "old people" & we will probably do at least 1 of the things mentioned in the initial post..