NDRU said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: TV Sorry, had to laugh my ass off there. If TV was the cause EVERYONE in the country would be gay! Damn liberal media making us gay! it aint the media, its all this damn MTV and Starbucks! so i started watching DR. Phil and drinking Arizona Iced Tea. | |
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keyiemo said: emm said: you're trippin' the bulk of the discussion took place in the first two hours from the time the OP started the thread. she also responded 24 times to that discussion and repeatedly thanked (aka appreciated) people for their input! you come along a day later with your post and just because you didn't get a response you feel slighted? for all we know the OP hasn't even been back to the org. just sayin, adder. Just to give a long (crazy) update...I was only able to get online for a quick second yesterday before all hell broke loose. I received a phone call from the mother of the girl my daughter wanted to take to the prom. She said that her daughter had left home crying because they got into it about my daughter/prom. She wanted to know if her daughter was at my house. I went downstairs and omg, she was there with my daughter crying her eyes out. I told her mom I would bring her home and hung up the phone. I was trying to ask the girls what was going on and what happened and so forth. My daughter was crying by this time and I kept telling them to calm down and tell me what was going on. I could not calm them down and I felt so freaking helpless.....I guess I was taking too long because the mom showed up. She came in (didn't knock on my door just came in!)and started cursing out her daughter and telling her that she was not going to the prom with a girl dressed in a tux and telling her that she was crazy if she thought she was going to let her have a girlfriend.She said that they were not acting natural and God didn't make women to be together. She said they were both going to hell..She then started on me, saying people were not born with these feelings..that they learned them. She said that I was wrong for entertaining my daughter's whims. No matter how I really feel about the situation..I wasn't going to let her talk about my child or me in MY house. I ended up cursing her out and telling them to GET THE *UCK OUT OF MY *UCKING HOUSE WITH YOUR DUMB ASS!! They finally left with her telling my daughter to stay away from her child. It was so crazy. I actually at one point felt myself walking towards this lady to punch her in the face! I was SO mad! After they left, I made the mistake of telling my daughter this is the type of *hit I'd been telling her about. She started talking crazy talk saying she was moving out and her and the girl were going to live together and she was just spewing a whole bunch of nonsense. We were arguing and it was just really bad...I didn't sleep last night. I dozed off around 6am and got up around 1. Got online to check a few things and then decided to look on here to see what was new..... Anyway, that's what's going on in my crazy world..... I am just now reading this thread. I am so sorry your family has been going through this. I have a step son that the family believes is gay, but he has not shared any of his personal life with us. I hope you and your daugther stay bonded and you realize what a blessing it is to be able to be involved in your child's life, even if it is a unexpected one. I hope you both create great memories, not painful ones. Peace. Love. Prince | |
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rnljs said: I hope you both create great memories, not painful ones.
Life is short..... 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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emm said: hope things are not quite as heated around there.
how do you feel about her wanting to have a girlfriend? set all the other stuff aside for a moment. what are your fears? sorry to get this going again..but haven't logged on in few days. I don't really mind if she has a girlfriend....She's 17 & graduates at the end of May...I wanted her to wait a couple of years and go to college & experience some things first before she declares herself a lesbian...but all in all I guess I'm ok with it..... As far as the prom, since we can't agree on anything..I told her she can wear what she wants & pay for it herself. She was very happy with that. Happy belated bday Emm. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: rnljs said: I hope you both create great memories, not painful ones.
Life is short..... It is...so I'm going to sit back and keep my mouth shut on some things and let her make her own choices. | |
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rnljs said: keyiemo said: Just to give a long (crazy) update...I was only able to get online for a quick second yesterday before all hell broke loose. I received a phone call from the mother of the girl my daughter wanted to take to the prom. She said that her daughter had left home crying because they got into it about my daughter/prom. She wanted to know if her daughter was at my house. I went downstairs and omg, she was there with my daughter crying her eyes out. I told her mom I would bring her home and hung up the phone. I was trying to ask the girls what was going on and what happened and so forth. My daughter was crying by this time and I kept telling them to calm down and tell me what was going on. I could not calm them down and I felt so freaking helpless.....I guess I was taking too long because the mom showed up. She came in (didn't knock on my door just came in!)and started cursing out her daughter and telling her that she was not going to the prom with a girl dressed in a tux and telling her that she was crazy if she thought she was going to let her have a girlfriend.She said that they were not acting natural and God didn't make women to be together. She said they were both going to hell..She then started on me, saying people were not born with these feelings..that they learned them. She said that I was wrong for entertaining my daughter's whims. No matter how I really feel about the situation..I wasn't going to let her talk about my child or me in MY house. I ended up cursing her out and telling them to GET THE *UCK OUT OF MY *UCKING HOUSE WITH YOUR DUMB ASS!! They finally left with her telling my daughter to stay away from her child. It was so crazy. I actually at one point felt myself walking towards this lady to punch her in the face! I was SO mad! After they left, I made the mistake of telling my daughter this is the type of *hit I'd been telling her about. She started talking crazy talk saying she was moving out and her and the girl were going to live together and she was just spewing a whole bunch of nonsense. We were arguing and it was just really bad...I didn't sleep last night. I dozed off around 6am and got up around 1. Got online to check a few things and then decided to look on here to see what was new..... Anyway, that's what's going on in my crazy world..... I am just now reading this thread. I am so sorry your family has been going through this. I have a step son that the family believes is gay, but he has not shared any of his personal life with us. I hope you and your daugther stay bonded and you realize what a blessing it is to be able to be involved in your child's life, even if it is a unexpected one. I hope you both create great memories, not painful ones. thx, rnljs. | |
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NDRU said: Good for her for being strong enough to admit it in high school when people are so cruel.
But you shouldn't be one of the cruel ones telling her that she's doing something wrong. I can only imagine how hard it is to come out to your parents. [Edited 3/19/09 10:37am] Since all of this has happened, I've realized that my little girl is growing up to be a very strong young woman. I secretly smile in the inside when she stands up to me and won't bend an inch for what she wants. | |
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keyiemo said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Life is short..... It is...so I'm going to sit back and keep my mouth shut on some things and let her make her own choices. Is that what we all do? I wish you all the best. She could be eating children in her spare time. Things could always be worse! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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keyiemo said: sorry to get this going again..but haven't logged on in few days.
I don't really mind if she has a girlfriend....She's 17 & graduates at the end of May...I wanted her to wait a couple of years and go to college & experience some things first before she declares herself a lesbian...but all in all I guess I'm ok with it..... As far as the prom, since we can't agree on anything..I told her she can wear what she wants & pay for it herself. She was very happy with that. Happy belated bday Emm. don't be sorry! it's a story without an ending till she goes to prom as far as i'm concerned!! and thanks for the bday wishes does your daughter know that she has a bunch of weird prince fans as cheerleaders? | |
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keyiemo said: NDRU said: Good for her for being strong enough to admit it in high school when people are so cruel.
But you shouldn't be one of the cruel ones telling her that she's doing something wrong. I can only imagine how hard it is to come out to your parents. [Edited 3/19/09 10:37am] Since all of this has happened, I've realized that my little girl is growing up to be a very strong young woman. I secretly smile in the inside when she stands up to me and won't bend an inch for what she wants. That is a direct reflection on you. You've been doing something right. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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keyiemo said: DesireeNevermind said: yeah i see. if its fitted right and flattering and not manish it might work. I had this vision of a girl trying to impersonate a guy when all her friends clearly knows shes a girl. kids today are much more open minded about same sex attraction but not about girls tryna be guys and vice versa. I think her showing up dressed like an all out dude would cause more rucus (sp) than her showing up with a girl for a date - depending on where they live of course. Gosh proms are like once in a lifetime. I would hate for her to mess up a fun time by fucking up her outfit. This is one of the reasons I didn't want her to wear a tux. I think that if it's fitted well (just think something that Ellen Degeneres would wear at an awards show), she'll look great. Again,for me, it isn't exactly the idea that she wants to wear a tux that is rattling..we just need to make sure that sucker fits and is flattering to her frame. I would say the same for any man that was shopping for a tux as well.... | |
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keyiemo said: I don't post often but I have an issue and wanted to get another opinion.
My daughter is a senior and has recently came to me and said that she likes girls. I admit that I wasn't too happy about it at first but I'm slowly coming to terms with it. The prom is coming up and she says that she wants to ask a girl and also wear a tuxedo. I've been very adamant and have told her that she will NOT wear a tuxedo and will NOT take a girl or she will not go. Needless to say things haven't been too happy around our house. She's very upset with me and keeps telling me that it's her prom and she should be able to wear what she wants. My question is this: What would you do if you were in the same situation? At least you won't have to worry about her getting pregnant. | |
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If her mom's on her side supporting her, childish taunts won't harm her, not in the long run.
What she WILL remember is that her mom backed her up even though it was tough for her mom. Hey it's easy to support someone who's doing exactly what you would do yourself - much harder and much more important to back someone up when you have to leave your own feelings and attitudes to one side to do it. This is not an exit | |
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rocknrolldave said: If her mom's on her side supporting her, childish taunts won't harm her, not in the long run.
What she WILL remember is that her mom backed her up even though it was tough for her mom. Hey it's easy to support someone who's doing exactly what you would do yourself - much harder and much more important to back someone up when you have to leave your own feelings and attitudes to one side to do it. well said. it's nice to see you around again, dave | |
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emm said: rocknrolldave said: If her mom's on her side supporting her, childish taunts won't harm her, not in the long run.
What she WILL remember is that her mom backed her up even though it was tough for her mom. Hey it's easy to support someone who's doing exactly what you would do yourself - much harder and much more important to back someone up when you have to leave your own feelings and attitudes to one side to do it. well said. it's nice to see you around again, dave Thank you! This is not an exit | |
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rocknrolldave said: If her mom's on her side supporting her, childish taunts won't harm her, not in the long run.
What she WILL remember is that her mom backed her up even though it was tough for her mom. Hey it's easy to support someone who's doing exactly what you would do yourself - much harder and much more important to back someone up when you have to leave your own feelings and attitudes to one side to do it. thanks... | |
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dseann said: keyiemo said: I don't post often but I have an issue and wanted to get another opinion.
My daughter is a senior and has recently came to me and said that she likes girls. I admit that I wasn't too happy about it at first but I'm slowly coming to terms with it. The prom is coming up and she says that she wants to ask a girl and also wear a tuxedo. I've been very adamant and have told her that she will NOT wear a tuxedo and will NOT take a girl or she will not go. Needless to say things haven't been too happy around our house. She's very upset with me and keeps telling me that it's her prom and she should be able to wear what she wants. My question is this: What would you do if you were in the same situation? At least you won't have to worry about her getting pregnant. yeah...not ready to be a grandma yet | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: keyiemo said: [b]
Since all of this has happened, I've realized that my little girl is growing up to be a very strong young woman. I secretly smile in the inside when she stands up to me and won't bend an inch for what she wants. That is a direct reflection on you. You've been doing something right. wow..thanks... | |
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Ottensen said: keyiemo said: This is one of the reasons I didn't want her to wear a tux. I think that if it's fitted well (just think something that Ellen Degeneres would wear at an awards show), she'll look great. Again,for me, it isn't exactly the idea that she wants to wear a tux that is rattling..we just need to make sure that sucker fits and is flattering to her frame. I would say the same for any man that was shopping for a tux as well.... i mentioned that to her..that the tux will have to be altered..she's just 5 feet & weighs about 115....i told her that the tux may not even look right on her but she says i was only trying to discourage her...but i'm really just stating facts for her.... | |
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emm said: keyiemo said: sorry to get this going again..but haven't logged on in few days.
I don't really mind if she has a girlfriend....She's 17 & graduates at the end of May...I wanted her to wait a couple of years and go to college & experience some things first before she declares herself a lesbian...but all in all I guess I'm ok with it..... As far as the prom, since we can't agree on anything..I told her she can wear what she wants & pay for it herself. She was very happy with that. Happy belated bday Emm. don't be sorry! it's a story without an ending till she goes to prom as far as i'm concerned!! and thanks for the bday wishes does your daughter know that she has a bunch of weird prince fans as cheerleaders? [b] i showed her some of the posts and she was very happy..she kept saying "see mom" or "i told u"..... I just want everyone to know that i really appreciate your support. I can't explain how it feels... I'll keep you updated on everything..... Now I have to go back to lotusflow3r.com & figure out what date I'm supposed to put in.... | |
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keyiemo said: dseann said: At least you won't have to worry about her getting pregnant. yeah...not ready to be a grandma yet Support your daughter, love her unconditionally. If she's going to the prom that means she's doing well enough in school, so you have been doing the right thing, be proud of that. | |
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keyiemo said: Ottensen said: I think that if it's fitted well (just think something that Ellen Degeneres would wear at an awards show), she'll look great. Again,for me, it isn't exactly the idea that she wants to wear a tux that is rattling..we just need to make sure that sucker fits and is flattering to her frame. I would say the same for any man that was shopping for a tux as well.... i mentioned that to her..that the tux will have to be altered..she's just 5 feet & weighs about 115....i told her that the tux may not even look right on her but she says i was only trying to discourage her...but i'm really just stating facts for her.... You tell her it's PROM, and she can't go looking SLOPPY no matter WHAT she wants to wear! Have you had a chance to do a search online for women's tuxes? I'm telling you, it's alllll about the fit! | |
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Ottensen said: keyiemo said: i mentioned that to her..that the tux will have to be altered..she's just 5 feet & weighs about 115....i told her that the tux may not even look right on her but she says i was only trying to discourage her...but i'm really just stating facts for her.... You tell her it's PROM, and she can't go looking SLOPPY no matter WHAT she wants to wear! Have you had a chance to do a search online for women's tuxes? I'm telling you, it's alllll about the fit! Yep Yep! If she goes looking sloppy she will draw negative attention to herself. She has to look put together. Gay or not, if she looks a mess the other kids will talk about it and then it might spiral into something else. Kids are no different than adults, we all can be shallow and immature and joking to the point of hurting someone's feelings. I can't imagine why she wouldn't want to look nice especially for her pics and does she intend to dance? Gotta be fitted and comfortable for that too. | |
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