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Reply #60 posted 03/15/09 10:32am

emm

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keyiemo said:

I think I'm going to really push the pants suit. Will a pants suit and top hat and cane look tacky??

look what you started cin razz

you can suggest. you can show her styles. but ultimately you know she's going to wear what she wants lol she might think it's perfect or she might want the top hat and cane razz
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Reply #61 posted 03/15/09 10:34am

Vendetta1

keyiemo said:

I don't post often but I have an issue and wanted to get another opinion.
My daughter is a senior and has recently came to me and said that she likes girls. I admit that I wasn't too happy about it at first but I'm slowly coming to terms with it. The prom is coming up and she says that she wants to ask a girl and also wear a tuxedo. I've been very adamant and have told her that she will NOT wear a tuxedo and will NOT take a girl or she will not go. Needless to say things haven't been too happy around our house. She's very upset with me and keeps telling me that it's her prom and she should be able to wear what she wants. My question is this: What would you do if you were in the same situation?
Let her do as she wants. Things could be worse: she could come home pregnant or with a STD.

We had a girl at our senior prom that came with another girl. As far as I hear, they had a great time and didn't give a damn what the other kids thought.
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Reply #62 posted 03/15/09 10:36am

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Reply #63 posted 03/15/09 10:37am

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Cinnie said:

raveon2tnek said:

[bait snip - CarrieMpls]
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Reply #64 posted 03/15/09 10:38am

Cinnie

emm said:

keyiemo said:

I think I'm going to really push the pants suit. Will a pants suit and top hat and cane look tacky??

look what you started cin razz

you can suggest. you can show her styles. but ultimately you know she's going to wear what she wants lol she might think it's perfect or she might want the top hat and cane razz


I just want to make sure we have all the options thought through!
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Reply #65 posted 03/15/09 10:43am

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It's MY prom and I'll wear what I want to

wear what I want to

wear what I want to
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Reply #66 posted 03/15/09 10:47am

Cinnie

PANDURITO said:

It's MY prom and I'll wear what I want to


shut up Pandurito, ykno that really doesn't fucking help. neutral
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Reply #67 posted 03/15/09 10:49am

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Cinnie said:

PANDURITO said:

It's MY prom and I'll wear what I want to


shut up Pandurito, ykno that really doesn't fucking help. neutral

It means a mother MUST voice her opinion
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Reply #68 posted 03/15/09 10:51am

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Cinnie said:

PANDURITO said:

It's MY prom and I'll wear what I want to


shut up Pandurito, ykno that really doesn't fucking help. neutral
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Reply #69 posted 03/15/09 10:51am

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PANDURITO said:

It's MY prom and I'll wear what I want to

wear what I want to

wear what I want to

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Reply #70 posted 03/15/09 10:53am

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keyiemo said:


eek

Suddenly the tuxedo doesn't seem such a bad option, huh? lol
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Reply #71 posted 03/15/09 11:00am

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emm said:

keyiemo said:

I think I'm going to really push the pants suit. Will a pants suit and top hat and cane look tacky??

look what you started cin razz

you can suggest. you can show her styles. but ultimately you know she's going to wear what she wants lol she might think it's perfect or she might want the top hat and cane razz


I found an old pic of Prince wearing a black pantsuit kinda thing with a white shirt...I can't figure out how to post the pic...but I'm going to see if she would wear something like that...

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Reply #72 posted 03/15/09 11:06am

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This one?
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Reply #73 posted 03/15/09 11:07am

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PANDURITO said:

This one?


yep..that's the one.
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Reply #74 posted 03/15/09 11:12am

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i'm just skimming the thread so sorry if this has already been said, but if she's come to you asking about it chances are the kids at her prom will already know about her & her girlfriend, so they most likely won't really care when she shows up with her. nod
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Reply #75 posted 03/15/09 11:21am

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evenstar3 said:

i'm just skimming the thread so sorry if this has already been said, but if she's come to you asking about it chances are the kids at her prom will already know about her & her girlfriend, so they most likely won't really care when she shows up with her. nod


hmmmmm
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Reply #76 posted 03/15/09 11:30am

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evenstar3 said:

i'm just skimming the thread so sorry if this has already been said, but if she's come to you asking about it chances are the kids at her prom will already know about her & her girlfriend, so they most likely won't really care when she shows up with her. nod


That's what I was basically thinking...It may be a big deal to mom, but chances are the daughter and her girlfriend have already discussed their plans with friends etc..
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Reply #77 posted 03/15/09 11:50am

Cinnie

thekidsgirl said:

evenstar3 said:

i'm just skimming the thread so sorry if this has already been said, but if she's come to you asking about it chances are the kids at her prom will already know about her & her girlfriend, so they most likely won't really care when she shows up with her. nod


That's what I was basically thinking...It may be a big deal to mom, but chances are the daughter and her girlfriend have already discussed their plans with friends etc..


I never even thought of this lol redface
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Reply #78 posted 03/15/09 12:15pm

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Cinnie said:

thekidsgirl said:



That's what I was basically thinking...It may be a big deal to mom, but chances are the daughter and her girlfriend have already discussed their plans with friends etc..


I never even thought of this lol redface


neither did i.....
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Reply #79 posted 03/15/09 1:42pm

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keyiemo said:

Cinnie said:



I never even thought of this lol redface


neither did i.....
doh!


lol hug

And if she goes to a larger school chances are they won't be the only same-sex couple. My high school was small & religious, but there were still a few gay and lesbian kids all the students knew about. No one really cared, and they had tons of friends.
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Reply #80 posted 03/15/09 1:53pm

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keyiemo said:

I don't post often but I have an issue and wanted to get another opinion.
My daughter is a senior and has recently came to me and said that she likes girls. I admit that I wasn't too happy about it at first but I'm slowly coming to terms with it. The prom is coming up and she says that she wants to ask a girl and also wear a tuxedo. I've been very adamant and have told her that she will NOT wear a tuxedo and will NOT take a girl or she will not go. Needless to say things haven't been too happy around our house. She's very upset with me and keeps telling me that it's her prom and she should be able to wear what she wants. My question is this: What would you do if you were in the same situation?

Hate to burst ur bubble but being a lesbian these days IS more accpetable then it was when I was growing up(I grew up during the 80's). I also saw girls going to Prom with other girls dress in tux's ( I remember them going "stag" and all dressing like that back in the 80's).

I have a 13 year old girl now and I told her from the start IF she liked girls that is fine with me, IF she likes boys fine with me, IF she liked BOTH fine with me too. The ONLY thing I want for HER is to be happy with herself and WHO she is. And she has to be comfortable with herself.

IMHO you are overreacting.
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Reply #81 posted 03/15/09 2:05pm

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keyiemo, I have a lot of respect for your place in this. It can't be easy.

But I think the advice you've gotten here so far is pretty smart. You could forbid her to go in tux and with a girl. But she either will frontally disobey you, or resent you perhaps for years to come. Possibly both. And while to you this all may seem a simple refusal to let her embarrass herself at a single event, one's got to wonder (and I'm certain your daughter does) to what extent this is an articulation that you are embarrassed by who she is. At worst, respect this moment in her life (she's reached the cusp of adulthood) and allow her to go, but tell her she'll pay for her own attire as you personally feel it's inappropriate.

As to the overall issue of her orientation, this will likely take time for you. Pray, speak to others, don't feel rushed. But in the meantime, whatever your position, your daughter has to learn how to navigate her own identity. Where she's not doing harm to herself, I'd side on allowing her to do so, even as you remain clear with her on where you are in this process.

...As an aside, I graduated in 1990, and we had a Lesbian couple, one half of whom wore a tux with a top hat. She looked awesome! And of course some people had crappy things to say. Someone always does. But the overall reception was one of not only support, but respect -- even from naysayers -- for their audacity in simply being who they were.
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #82 posted 03/15/09 3:46pm

Vendetta1

Lammastide said:

keyiemo, I have a lot of respect for your place in this. It can't be easy.

But I think the advice you've gotten here so far is pretty smart. You could forbid her to go in tux and with a girl. But she either will frontally disobey you, or resent you perhaps for years to come. Possibly both. And while to you this all may seem a simple refusal to let her embarrass herself at a single event, one's got to wonder (and I'm certain your daughter does) to what extent this is an articulation that you are embarrassed by who she is. At worst, respect this moment in her life (she's reached the cusp of adulthood) and allow her to go, but tell her she'll pay for her own attire as you personally feel it's inappropriate.

As to the overall issue of her orientation, this will likely take time for you. Pray, speak to others, don't feel rushed. But in the meantime, whatever your position, your daughter has to learn how to navigate her own identity. Where she's not doing harm to herself, I'd side on allowing her to do so, even as you remain clear with her on where you are in this process.

...As an aside, I graduated in 1990, and we had a Lesbian couple, one half of whom wore a tux with a top hat. She looked awesome! And of course some people had crappy things to say. Someone always does. But the overall reception was one of not only support, but respect -- even from naysayers -- for their audacity in simply being who they were.
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Reply #83 posted 03/15/09 4:00pm

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Lammastide said:

keyiemo, I have a lot of respect for your place in this. It can't be easy.

But I think the advice you've gotten here so far is pretty smart. You could forbid her to go in tux and with a girl. But she either will frontally disobey you, or resent you perhaps for years to come. Possibly both. And while to you this all may seem a simple refusal to let her embarrass herself at a single event, one's got to wonder (and I'm certain your daughter does) to what extent this is an articulation that you are embarrassed by who she is. At worst, respect this moment in her life (she's reached the cusp of adulthood) and allow her to go, but tell her she'll pay for her own attire as you personally feel it's inappropriate.

As to the overall issue of her orientation, this will likely take time for you. Pray, speak to others, don't feel rushed. But in the meantime, whatever your position, your daughter has to learn how to navigate her own identity. Where she's not doing harm to herself, I'd side on allowing her to do so, even as you remain clear with her on where you are in this process.

...As an aside, I graduated in 1990, and we had a Lesbian couple, one half of whom wore a tux with a top hat. She looked awesome! And of course some people had crappy things to say. Someone always does. But the overall reception was one of not only support, but respect -- even from naysayers -- for their audacity in simply being who they were.
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thanks for your thoughts on this Lammastide...
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Reply #84 posted 03/15/09 4:19pm

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Vendetta1 said:

Lammastide said:

keyiemo, I have a lot of respect for your place in this. It can't be easy.

But I think the advice you've gotten here so far is pretty smart. You could forbid her to go in tux and with a girl. But she either will frontally disobey you, or resent you perhaps for years to come. Possibly both. And while to you this all may seem a simple refusal to let her embarrass herself at a single event, one's got to wonder (and I'm certain your daughter does) to what extent this is an articulation that you are embarrassed by who she is. At worst, respect this moment in her life (she's reached the cusp of adulthood) and allow her to go, but tell her she'll pay for her own attire as you personally feel it's inappropriate.

As to the overall issue of her orientation, this will likely take time for you. Pray, speak to others, don't feel rushed. But in the meantime, whatever your position, your daughter has to learn how to navigate her own identity. Where she's not doing harm to herself, I'd side on allowing her to do so, even as you remain clear with her on where you are in this process.

...As an aside, I graduated in 1990, and we had a Lesbian couple, one half of whom wore a tux with a top hat. She looked awesome! And of course some people had crappy things to say. Someone always does. But the overall reception was one of not only support, but respect -- even from naysayers -- for their audacity in simply being who they were.
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Can we make love down by the fire, Lamma? mushy

no no no! I don't think Bill would appreciate that.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #85 posted 03/15/09 4:23pm

Vendetta1

Lammastide said:

Vendetta1 said:

Can we make love down by the fire, Lamma? mushy

no no no! I don't think Bill would appreciate that.
I won't tell Bill if you don't? biggrin
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Reply #86 posted 03/15/09 4:37pm

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Cinnie said:

I don't know about TUX because that is definitely designed for men to wear


Really?







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I have always longed to wear a tuxedo - and I'm as straight as they come (no pun intended). One day, I'll make one.
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Reply #87 posted 03/15/09 4:38pm

Vendetta1

they look amazing in those tuxes.
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Reply #88 posted 03/15/09 4:44pm

Genesia

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they look amazing in those tuxes.


nod

I think the whole key to making that work is to find a tux that fits well. (The women in the photos above had the luxury of having their custom made.) The curvier she is, the less likely it is she'll be able to wear an actual men's tuxedo. Does she (or one of her friends) sew? Or would she be open to adapting to a tuxedo-ish look if she can't find an actual tux?
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Reply #89 posted 03/15/09 4:56pm

Cuddles

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FunkMistress said:

shanti0608 said:

I wish I had gone to Prom with a girl.
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lol I didn't go at all!



me either! fart
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