keyiemo said: I think I'm going to really push the pants suit. Will a pants suit and top hat and cane look tacky??
look what you started cin you can suggest. you can show her styles. but ultimately you know she's going to wear what she wants she might think it's perfect or she might want the top hat and cane | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
keyiemo said: I don't post often but I have an issue and wanted to get another opinion.
Let her do as she wants. Things could be worse: she could come home pregnant or with a STD.
My daughter is a senior and has recently came to me and said that she likes girls. I admit that I wasn't too happy about it at first but I'm slowly coming to terms with it. The prom is coming up and she says that she wants to ask a girl and also wear a tuxedo. I've been very adamant and have told her that she will NOT wear a tuxedo and will NOT take a girl or she will not go. Needless to say things haven't been too happy around our house. She's very upset with me and keeps telling me that it's her prom and she should be able to wear what she wants. My question is this: What would you do if you were in the same situation? We had a girl at our senior prom that came with another girl. As far as I hear, they had a great time and didn't give a damn what the other kids thought. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
raveon2tnek said: [bait snip - CarrieMpls]
[taking the bait snip - CarrieMpls] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Cinnie said: raveon2tnek said: | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
emm said: keyiemo said: I think I'm going to really push the pants suit. Will a pants suit and top hat and cane look tacky??
look what you started cin you can suggest. you can show her styles. but ultimately you know she's going to wear what she wants she might think it's perfect or she might want the top hat and cane I just want to make sure we have all the options thought through! | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
It's MY prom and I'll wear what I want to
wear what I want to wear what I want to | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
PANDURITO said: It's MY prom and I'll wear what I want to
shut up Pandurito, ykno that really doesn't fucking help. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Cinnie said: PANDURITO said: It's MY prom and I'll wear what I want to
shut up Pandurito, ykno that really doesn't fucking help. It means a mother MUST voice her opinion | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Cinnie said: PANDURITO said: It's MY prom and I'll wear what I want to
shut up Pandurito, ykno that really doesn't fucking help. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
PANDURITO said: It's MY prom and I'll wear what I want to
wear what I want to wear what I want to | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
keyiemo said: Suddenly the tuxedo doesn't seem such a bad option, huh? | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
emm said: keyiemo said: I think I'm going to really push the pants suit. Will a pants suit and top hat and cane look tacky??
look what you started cin you can suggest. you can show her styles. but ultimately you know she's going to wear what she wants she might think it's perfect or she might want the top hat and cane I found an old pic of Prince wearing a black pantsuit kinda thing with a white shirt...I can't figure out how to post the pic...but I'm going to see if she would wear something like that... prince.org/msg/7/236675 - 39k | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
This one?
| |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
PANDURITO said: This one?
yep..that's the one. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
i'm just skimming the thread so sorry if this has already been said, but if she's come to you asking about it chances are the kids at her prom will already know about her & her girlfriend, so they most likely won't really care when she shows up with her. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
evenstar3 said: i'm just skimming the thread so sorry if this has already been said, but if she's come to you asking about it chances are the kids at her prom will already know about her & her girlfriend, so they most likely won't really care when she shows up with her.
hmmmmm | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
evenstar3 said: i'm just skimming the thread so sorry if this has already been said, but if she's come to you asking about it chances are the kids at her prom will already know about her & her girlfriend, so they most likely won't really care when she shows up with her.
That's what I was basically thinking...It may be a big deal to mom, but chances are the daughter and her girlfriend have already discussed their plans with friends etc.. If you will, so will I | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
thekidsgirl said: evenstar3 said: i'm just skimming the thread so sorry if this has already been said, but if she's come to you asking about it chances are the kids at her prom will already know about her & her girlfriend, so they most likely won't really care when she shows up with her.
That's what I was basically thinking...It may be a big deal to mom, but chances are the daughter and her girlfriend have already discussed their plans with friends etc.. I never even thought of this | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Cinnie said: thekidsgirl said: That's what I was basically thinking...It may be a big deal to mom, but chances are the daughter and her girlfriend have already discussed their plans with friends etc.. I never even thought of this neither did i..... | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
keyiemo said: Cinnie said: I never even thought of this neither did i..... And if she goes to a larger school chances are they won't be the only same-sex couple. My high school was small & religious, but there were still a few gay and lesbian kids all the students knew about. No one really cared, and they had tons of friends. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
keyiemo said: I don't post often but I have an issue and wanted to get another opinion.
My daughter is a senior and has recently came to me and said that she likes girls. I admit that I wasn't too happy about it at first but I'm slowly coming to terms with it. The prom is coming up and she says that she wants to ask a girl and also wear a tuxedo. I've been very adamant and have told her that she will NOT wear a tuxedo and will NOT take a girl or she will not go. Needless to say things haven't been too happy around our house. She's very upset with me and keeps telling me that it's her prom and she should be able to wear what she wants. My question is this: What would you do if you were in the same situation? Hate to burst ur bubble but being a lesbian these days IS more accpetable then it was when I was growing up(I grew up during the 80's). I also saw girls going to Prom with other girls dress in tux's ( I remember them going "stag" and all dressing like that back in the 80's). I have a 13 year old girl now and I told her from the start IF she liked girls that is fine with me, IF she likes boys fine with me, IF she liked BOTH fine with me too. The ONLY thing I want for HER is to be happy with herself and WHO she is. And she has to be comfortable with herself. IMHO you are overreacting. Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
keyiemo, I have a lot of respect for your place in this. It can't be easy.
But I think the advice you've gotten here so far is pretty smart. You could forbid her to go in tux and with a girl. But she either will frontally disobey you, or resent you perhaps for years to come. Possibly both. And while to you this all may seem a simple refusal to let her embarrass herself at a single event, one's got to wonder (and I'm certain your daughter does) to what extent this is an articulation that you are embarrassed by who she is. At worst, respect this moment in her life (she's reached the cusp of adulthood) and allow her to go, but tell her she'll pay for her own attire as you personally feel it's inappropriate. As to the overall issue of her orientation, this will likely take time for you. Pray, speak to others, don't feel rushed. But in the meantime, whatever your position, your daughter has to learn how to navigate her own identity. Where she's not doing harm to herself, I'd side on allowing her to do so, even as you remain clear with her on where you are in this process. ...As an aside, I graduated in 1990, and we had a Lesbian couple, one half of whom wore a tux with a top hat. She looked awesome! And of course some people had crappy things to say. Someone always does. But the overall reception was one of not only support, but respect -- even from naysayers -- for their audacity in simply being who they were. [Edited 3/15/09 14:33pm] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Lammastide said: keyiemo, I have a lot of respect for your place in this. It can't be easy.
Can we make love down by the fire, Lamma? But I think the advice you've gotten here so far is pretty smart. You could forbid her to go in tux and with a girl. But she either will frontally disobey you, or resent you perhaps for years to come. Possibly both. And while to you this all may seem a simple refusal to let her embarrass herself at a single event, one's got to wonder (and I'm certain your daughter does) to what extent this is an articulation that you are embarrassed by who she is. At worst, respect this moment in her life (she's reached the cusp of adulthood) and allow her to go, but tell her she'll pay for her own attire as you personally feel it's inappropriate. As to the overall issue of her orientation, this will likely take time for you. Pray, speak to others, don't feel rushed. But in the meantime, whatever your position, your daughter has to learn how to navigate her own identity. Where she's not doing harm to herself, I'd side on allowing her to do so, even as you remain clear with her on where you are in this process. ...As an aside, I graduated in 1990, and we had a Lesbian couple, one half of whom wore a tux with a top hat. She looked awesome! And of course some people had crappy things to say. Someone always does. But the overall reception was one of not only support, but respect -- even from naysayers -- for their audacity in simply being who they were. [Edited 3/15/09 14:33pm] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Lammastide said: keyiemo, I have a lot of respect for your place in this. It can't be easy.
But I think the advice you've gotten here so far is pretty smart. You could forbid her to go in tux and with a girl. But she either will frontally disobey you, or resent you perhaps for years to come. Possibly both. And while to you this all may seem a simple refusal to let her embarrass herself at a single event, one's got to wonder (and I'm certain your daughter does) to what extent this is an articulation that you are embarrassed by who she is. At worst, respect this moment in her life (she's reached the cusp of adulthood) and allow her to go, but tell her she'll pay for her own attire as you personally feel it's inappropriate. As to the overall issue of her orientation, this will likely take time for you. Pray, speak to others, don't feel rushed. But in the meantime, whatever your position, your daughter has to learn how to navigate her own identity. Where she's not doing harm to herself, I'd side on allowing her to do so, even as you remain clear with her on where you are in this process. ...As an aside, I graduated in 1990, and we had a Lesbian couple, one half of whom wore a tux with a top hat. She looked awesome! And of course some people had crappy things to say. Someone always does. But the overall reception was one of not only support, but respect -- even from naysayers -- for their audacity in simply being who they were. [Edited 3/15/09 14:33pm] thanks for your thoughts on this Lammastide... | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Vendetta1 said: Lammastide said: keyiemo, I have a lot of respect for your place in this. It can't be easy.
Can we make love down by the fire, Lamma? But I think the advice you've gotten here so far is pretty smart. You could forbid her to go in tux and with a girl. But she either will frontally disobey you, or resent you perhaps for years to come. Possibly both. And while to you this all may seem a simple refusal to let her embarrass herself at a single event, one's got to wonder (and I'm certain your daughter does) to what extent this is an articulation that you are embarrassed by who she is. At worst, respect this moment in her life (she's reached the cusp of adulthood) and allow her to go, but tell her she'll pay for her own attire as you personally feel it's inappropriate. As to the overall issue of her orientation, this will likely take time for you. Pray, speak to others, don't feel rushed. But in the meantime, whatever your position, your daughter has to learn how to navigate her own identity. Where she's not doing harm to herself, I'd side on allowing her to do so, even as you remain clear with her on where you are in this process. ...As an aside, I graduated in 1990, and we had a Lesbian couple, one half of whom wore a tux with a top hat. She looked awesome! And of course some people had crappy things to say. Someone always does. But the overall reception was one of not only support, but respect -- even from naysayers -- for their audacity in simply being who they were. [Edited 3/15/09 14:33pm] I don't think Bill would appreciate that. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Lammastide said: Vendetta1 said: Can we make love down by the fire, Lamma?
I don't think Bill would appreciate that. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Cinnie said: I don't know about TUX because that is definitely designed for men to wear
Really? And...lest we forget...Yves St. Laurent's Le Smoking circa 1966... I have always longed to wear a tuxedo - and I'm as straight as they come (no pun intended). One day, I'll make one. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
they look amazing in those tuxes. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Vendetta1 said: they look amazing in those tuxes.
I think the whole key to making that work is to find a tux that fits well. (The women in the photos above had the luxury of having their custom made.) The curvier she is, the less likely it is she'll be able to wear an actual men's tuxedo. Does she (or one of her friends) sew? Or would she be open to adapting to a tuxedo-ish look if she can't find an actual tux? We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
FunkMistress said: shanti0608 said: I wish I had gone to Prom with a girl.
I didn't go at all! me either! To make a thief, make an owner; to create crime, create laws. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |