ZombieKitten said:

We can't, it's not natural, it's produced by humans.

They probably got this email!

http://urbanlegends.about...canola.htm

http://www.snopes.com/med...canola.asp

ZombieKitten said:

So much BS out there. Canola oil is definitely one of the better oils.

A single glass of beer is actually good for you.

And caffeine isn't so bad either. The wife and I drink yerba mate tea mixed with guarana in the morning before we swim and it gives a delightful burst of energy plus a safe way to burn extra calories over the hours following.

Fauxie said:

yup

they are evil smear campaigns

like most of the reviews on tripadvisor, have you noticed?
that many normal motels can't be crawling with hookers, cockroaches and bed-bugs and the next review says it's lovely

ZombieKitten said:

I hate that. Who do I trust?? I tend to think such an emphatically negative complainer would find any place (anything, in life) unacceptable and so ignore them.

That mustard gas shit still has me laughing. Also, they basically said 'we give copious amounts of something they don't usually eat to rats and they suffered health problems, so you shouldn't use it either'.

'hey, my sister spilled this on her blouse and couldn't get it out. I'm no scientist, but I doubt anything is a closer replica to the human stomach than my sister's blouse. Just sayin', that shit didn't come out, even after, like, 2 washes!'

Fauxie said:

very true

I got canola oil out of my skirt - just rubbed a little stain remover on it and washed it twice

I fondly remember the rapeseed fields when I was a kid

Beware of margarine molecule myth

"This is no joke!" As soon as I see that phrase pop up in an email, I know what's coming. I'm going to be warned about some nasty substance that is unravelling the very fabric of society. Like margarine. It is "one molecule away from plastic," a widely circulating email proclaims.

Even flies are smart enough to stay away from it. We also have to be on the lookout for mouldy pancake mix, which apparently is lying in wait to kill us. Sodium benzoate, a common preservative, can trigger Parkinson's disease. And the MMR vaccine for children? Trading in mumps, measles or rubella for autism is not an attractive proposition.

These warnings, often forwarded by good Samaritans looking out for our welfare, are generally based on some sort of misinterpretation of scientific research. But not always. Margarine being "one molecule away from plastic" is just plain nonsense. Plastics are composed of long molecules called polymers, while margarine is a blend of fats and water. There is no chemical similarity between the two. In any case, being "one molecule away" is a totally meaningless expression.

Substances are made of molecules, which in turn are composed of atoms joined together in a specific pattern. I suppose one might say that hydrogen peroxide, H2O2, is one atom away from water, H2O, but even this is meaningless. That extra oxygen atom changes the properties of the substance dramatically. Stick your finger into a bottle of pure hydrogen peroxide and you will quickly experience the effect of that extra oxygen.

Even if margarine had some chemical similarity to plastic, which it does not, its properties could still be dramatically different. Slight alterations in molecular structure can account for very significant changes in properties. As far as flies staying away from margarine goes, I have yet to see a study confirming the allegation. In any case, our dietary decisions should not be based on the dining habits of flies.

I admit that I prefer butter over margarine, but this has nothing to do with plastics or flies. Yes, I'm aware that butter has more of the "bad" fats, but it also has more of the good taste. It comes down to a matter of quantity. If you are eating so much margarine or butter that the difference in saturated fat content makes a difference in the ratio of your total saturated-to-unsaturated fat intake, well, then you are eating too much of either one!

The warning about pancake mix is on a firmer scientific footing. The email refers to a "Dear Abby" letter in a newspaper describing a 14-year-old boy's severe allergic reaction after eating pancakes made from a mix that had been in a pantry for a while. In all probability the reaction was to a mould that had contaminated the mix. Such reactions are rare but very real. The scientific literature does record a case of a young man who died after eating pancakes made from a mix that had been sitting open in a cupboard for two years. But the victim had a history of allergies, including pets, moulds and penicillin.

When the pancake mix was analyzed, a variety of moulds, including Penicillium, Fusarium, Mucor and Aspergillus were found. For the vast majority of the population, mould in old pancake mix is not a life-threatening situation. But in general, it is not a good idea to eat food that has been sitting around for years. Make pancakes from fresh ingredients. Then your only worry is whether to top them with butter or margarine.

Sodium benzoate has been a controversial preservative ever since Harvey Wiley's "Poison Squad" sat down to dinner in 1902. Wiley, then chief of the U.S. Bureau of Chemistry, a forerunner to the FDA, enlisted volunteers to dine on meals laden with some of the food additives in use at the time. He became alarmed when large doses of sodium benzoate caused adverse effects but Congress refused to ban the additive after follow up studies using more realistic amounts of the chemical failed to reproduce Wiley's results.

The controversy over sodium benzoate reignited recently when Peter Piper at the University of Sheffield tested the effect of benzoate on yeast cells and discovered that the preservative damaged DNA molecules in the mitochondria, the cells' energy-producing machinery. This kind of damage has also been seen in Parkinson's disease patients, but suggestions that the small amounts of benzoate used to preserve certain foods can cause the disease are way off base. And let's remember that benzoate isn't added to food for fun. It can prevent moulds from growing. And as we have seen, these can be nasty organisms.

Moulds can be nasty all right, but not as nasty as the viruses that cause measles, mumps or rubella. Advising people to shun vaccines that protect against these viruses is far more serious than scaring them about margarine, pancakes or benzoates. But back in 1998, the warning appeared to have some substance to it. Andrew Wakefield, along with 12 colleagues, published a paper in The Lancet, one of the world's premier medical journals, suggesting a possible connection between autism and the MMR vaccine.

The paper described a dozen cases in which children had supposedly developed autistic symptoms shortly after receiving an MMR vaccine. Controversy erupted, with many parents refusing to allow their children to be vaccinated. But when the London Times investigated, a frightening picture emerged. It turned out some of the parents had been recruited for the study by an attorney who was preparing a lawsuit against the manufacturer of the vaccine, and that Wakefield had been paid by the Legal Services Commission, which was also funding the potential lawsuit against MMR manufacturers.

The Times managed to unearth a number of other irregularities associated with the Lancet paper, resulting in 10 of the original authors publishing a letter retracting the interpretation of the study and professional misconduct charges being brought against Wakefield by the General Medical Council in Britain. Anyone deciding against MMR vaccination based on this flawed study is making a mistake. Coming down with measles, mumps or rubella is certainly no joke.

Margarine is nothing but hydrogenated oil. Transfat City!

ZombieKitten said:

Seriously, someone dissed me in chat about a month ago for using canola oil.

And some will search for rapeseed oil (like my Aussie friend) in supermarkets here, as a cheaper alternative to olive oil for most everyday uses, but unknowingly disparage it as canola oil along with others like palm oil.

So, about margarine... same shit, different foodstuff



http://www2.canada.com/mo...90778033be

Fauxie said:

While raping your wife?

JustErin said:

Is it really rape if the canola oil smooths the way?

http://www.nutristrategy.com/fatsoils.htm
here you can check the facts on fats

Fauxie said:

Montreal to the rescue!

Fauxie said:

Dude, it's only rape if you get caught.

JustErin said:

You mean by someone other than your wife, right? I mean, she woke up.

Fauxie said:

Yes, yes...that's what I meant.

Butter vs. margarine: Which is better for my heart?

Which is better for my heart, butter or margarine?
- Will / Maine

Mayo Clinic cardiologist Martha Grogan, M.D., and colleagues answer select questions from readers.

Answer

Margarine usually tops butter when it comes to heart health.

Margarine is made from vegetable oils, so it contains no cholesterol. Margarine is also higher in "good" fats - polyunsaturated and monounsaturated - than butter is. These types of fat help reduce low-density lipoprotein (LDL), or "bad," cholesterol, when substituted for saturated fat. Butter, on the other hand, is made from animal fat, so it contains cholesterol and high levels of saturated fat.

But not all margarines are created equal, and some may even be worse than butter. Most margarines are processed using a method called hydrogenation, which results in unhealthy trans fats. In general, the more solid the margarine, the more trans fats it contains, so stick margarines usually have more trans fats than do tub margarines. Like saturated fats, trans fats increase blood cholesterol and the risk of heart disease. In addition, trans fats can lower high-density lipoprotein (HDL), or "good," cholesterol levels.

When selecting a margarine, choose one with the lowest trans fat content possible and less than 2 grams total of saturated plus trans fats. Manufacturers are required to list saturated and trans fats separately on food labels. Also, margarines fortified with plant sterols can help reduce LDL cholesterol levels by more than 10 percent. The amount of daily plant sterols needed for results is at least 2 grams. The American Heart Association recommends foods fortified with plant sterols for people with levels of LDL cholesterol over 160 milligrams per deciliter (4.1 mmol/L).

However, if you don't like the taste of margarine and don't want to give up butter completely, consider using whipped butter or light or reduced-calorie butter. There are also spreadable butters with vegetable oils added. Per serving, these products have less fat and calories than regular butter. The important thing is to use these products in small amounts - just enough to add flavor to the foods you're eating.

JustErin said:

For the record, nobody raped anybody. Just because there's pain involved doesn't mean it's rape.

Fauxie said:

Or Rohypnol!

JustErin said:

Marriage is a contract.

Fauxie said:

Ya, I've got nothing funny to say in response this time.

JustErin said:

But before...

wildgoldenhoney said:

Smart Balance is good.

Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC..

And that right there is why i only use butter.

I received a email about this a few years ago,and since then I have not used anymore Margarine.

EmeraldSkies said:

so did you read the article in a link above? that debunks this particular smear campaign email from the dairy corporation?