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Reply #90 posted 03/09/09 2:59am

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thekidsgirl said:

AlexdeParis said:


I liked the rest of the music. "The Times They Are A-Changing" was a fantastic choice. "The Sound of Silence," the Hendrix version of "All Along the Watchtower," and the subtle, barely audible "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" also worked well IMO. "Unforgettable" was a nice juxtaposition with the violent scene. I had no problem with "99 Luftballoons." Which ones didn't you like?



I like/love all those songs, they just didn't seem to fit in with the scenes to me razz

Hmm. Well, at the very least, "All Along the Watchtower" is actually used in the comic for that scene (although it's obviously just the lyrics).
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Reply #91 posted 03/09/09 5:12am

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The effects were great. To me it was a bit confusing and way too long,but Fun to watch and more fun on Imax I suppose.
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Reply #92 posted 03/09/09 1:02pm

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I haven't read the graphic novel. I knew next to nothing about the story before watching the movie.

The soundtrack was a major problem for me. The songs just took me out of the movie... The violence was over-the-top in my opinion. Yes, yes we get it... it's not a kid's movie.

And I really didn't feel anything emotionally invested in whether the world was saved or not...
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Reply #93 posted 03/09/09 1:32pm

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it was ok. i loved the music choices, although they did seem a bit
too clever to the point where it all became too planned. if that
makes any sense, lol.

still, loved hearing those songs. great choices.

except, fcuz for the f@cking to "hallelujah". i actually closed my
eyes halfway through because i knew that this horrible scene that
was like a porno parody, would ruin the song for me forever if i'd
watched it all the way through.

of all the weird/bizarre things i've seen in the theatre the past
few years, the choice to put hallelujah under that scene takes the
cake.

lol

it was the same with the rest of the movie. lots of brilliants bits,
but countered with some terrible cheese or melodramatic fluff.

the thing that glued it all together for me was something that had
nothing to do with the movie itself: dr manhatten's voice. that got
me all tingly and hot, lol.

i'd still give this film 7/10 though.
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Reply #94 posted 03/09/09 1:38pm

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IstenSzek said:

it was ok. i loved the music choices, although they did seem a bit
too clever to the point where it all became too planned. if that
makes any sense, lol.

still, loved hearing those songs. great choices.

except, fcuz for the f@cking to "hallelujah". i actually closed my
eyes halfway through because i knew that this horrible scene that
was like a porno parody, would ruin the song for me forever if i'd
watched it all the way through.

of all the weird/bizarre things i've seen in the theatre the past
few years, the choice to put hallelujah under that scene takes the
cake.

lol



I agree!!!! I really loved the music all except for that. That scene was just awful and the music was 95% of the problem.
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Reply #95 posted 03/09/09 2:00pm

IstenSzek

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CarrieMpls said:

IstenSzek said:

it was ok. i loved the music choices, although they did seem a bit
too clever to the point where it all became too planned. if that
makes any sense, lol.

still, loved hearing those songs. great choices.

except, fcuz for the f@cking to "hallelujah". i actually closed my
eyes halfway through because i knew that this horrible scene that
was like a porno parody, would ruin the song for me forever if i'd
watched it all the way through.

of all the weird/bizarre things i've seen in the theatre the past
few years, the choice to put hallelujah under that scene takes the
cake.

lol



I agree!!!! I really loved the music all except for that. That scene was just awful and the music was 95% of the problem.


exactly. when the music/scene first started i was all like
"i have to go to the toillet. i have to get up. no, i have
to close my eyes. no, i have to watch. no. aaah. help! too
late now".

falloff
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Reply #96 posted 03/09/09 2:15pm

Anxiety

i loved the movie!

my biggest problem was with the facial prosthetics/famous characters/aged characters. i get what they were going for, but i think the caricature-ish look of the make-up was distracting and cheesy. nixon looked AWFUL, and they needed to cast an older woman as sally jupiter and have a younger actress for the flashbacks. that said, i loved that this movie had cameos by people playing bowie, warhol, the maclaughlin group (!) and (i think?) divine! lol
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Reply #97 posted 03/09/09 2:18pm

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I liked it better than Dark Night.
It gives the comic book genre the treatment it really sort of deserves. Comic books are myth, and the heroes are like greek gods, full of powers beyond what mere mortals have, but possessing all of our faults. The movie had that feel.

However, the movie was a big mess, and I'm surprised I enjoyed it at all. It starts off emulating film noir much like Blade Runner did back in the 80's. Only, this movie is not nearly as clever or well done as Ridley Scott's attempts at the genre. Blade Runner also made a much better effort at combining the noir genre with sci-fi, where this movie ends up feeling akward when combining genres.

The premise and plot are generic and silly, and predictable. I never read the comic books, so I only have the movie to base this on. But it wasn't particularly interesting nor exactly exciting. Even that hot-as-fuck Mr. Manhattan dude's revelation at the end about life being a miracle was a snore-fest and reminding me of Keanu Reeve's revelation in the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still. I busted out laughing my ass off during that speach falloff cause it was so corny and stupid.
But then again, aren't all comic books really kind of stupid? lol

The strength of this movie isn't the plot--hell, I could have written that plot. The strength of the movie was the world it created, the characters it presented, and how easily you're immersed in that world. Before the openning credits ended, I was already sucked in.
The ambience of the world is both bleak and exciting. I kept seeing similarities not to Batman's Gotham city, but to Ridley Scott's futuristic Blade Runner world.
Also, it's finally nice to see a Super hero movie that is comfortable with being 'R' rated, but not really on the elements that give it an 'R' rating to serve as the entertainment. Too often, like in the Alien-V-Predator franchise, directories think, throwing a bunch of blood and guts into the movie will make the movie. Watchmen doesn't fall under that trap.

Overall I give it a 7 out 10. I don't understand the hype, but then again, with comic book adaptations I never understand why full grown people get hardons for this stuff. lol
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Reply #98 posted 03/09/09 2:35pm

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BSOD said:

I liked it better than Dark Night it gives the comic book genre the treatment it really sort of deserves. Comic books are myth, and the heroes are like greek gods, full of powers beyond what mere mortals have, but possessing all of our faults. The movie had that feel.

However, the movie was a big mess, and I'm surprised I enjoyed it at all. It starts off emulating film noir much like Blade Runner did back in the 80's. Only, this movie is not nearly as clever or well done as Ridley Scott's attempts at the genre. Blade Runner also made a much better effort at combining the noir genre with sci-fi, where this movie ends up feeling akward when combining genres.

The premise and plot are generic and silly, and predictable. I never read the comic books, so I only have the movie to base this on. But it wasn't particularly interesting nor exactly exciting. Even that hot-as-fuck Mr. Manhattan dude's revelation at the end about life being a miracle was a snore-fest and reminding me of Keanu Reeve's revelation in the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still. I busted out laughing my ass off during that speach falloff cause it was so corny and stupid.
But then again, aren't all comic books really kind of stupid? lol

The strength of this movie isn't the plot--hell, I could have written that plot. The strength of the movie was the world it created, the characters it presented, and how easily you're immersed in that world. Before the openning credits ended, I was already sucked in.
The ambience of the world is both bleak and exciting. I kept seeing similarities not to Batman's Gotham city, but to Ridley Scott's futuristic Blade Runner world.
Also, it's finally nice to see a Super hero movie that is comfortable with being 'R' rated, but not really on the elements that give it an 'R' rating to serve as the entertainment. Too often, like in the Alien-V-Predator franchise, directories think, throwing a bunch of blood and guts into the movie will make the movie. Watchers doesn't fall under that trap.

Overall I give it a 7 out 10. I don't understand the hype, but then again, with comic book adaptations I never understand why full grown people get hardons for this stuff. lol

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Reply #99 posted 03/09/09 2:49pm

Anxiety

BSOD said:

I liked it better than Dark Night.
It gives the comic book genre the treatment it really sort of deserves. Comic books are myth, and the heroes are like greek gods, full of powers beyond what mere mortals have, but possessing all of our faults. The movie had that feel.

However, the movie was a big mess, and I'm surprised I enjoyed it at all. It starts off emulating film noir much like Blade Runner did back in the 80's. Only, this movie is not nearly as clever or well done as Ridley Scott's attempts at the genre. Blade Runner also made a much better effort at combining the noir genre with sci-fi, where this movie ends up feeling akward when combining genres.

The premise and plot are generic and silly, and predictable. I never read the comic books, so I only have the movie to base this on. But it wasn't particularly interesting nor exactly exciting. Even that hot-as-fuck Mr. Manhattan dude's revelation at the end about life being a miracle was a snore-fest and reminding me of Keanu Reeve's revelation in the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still. I busted out laughing my ass off during that speach falloff cause it was so corny and stupid.
But then again, aren't all comic books really kind of stupid? lol

The strength of this movie isn't the plot--hell, I could have written that plot. The strength of the movie was the world it created, the characters it presented, and how easily you're immersed in that world. Before the openning credits ended, I was already sucked in.
The ambience of the world is both bleak and exciting. I kept seeing similarities not to Batman's Gotham city, but to Ridley Scott's futuristic Blade Runner world.
Also, it's finally nice to see a Super hero movie that is comfortable with being 'R' rated, but not really on the elements that give it an 'R' rating to serve as the entertainment. Too often, like in the Alien-V-Predator franchise, directories think, throwing a bunch of blood and guts into the movie will make the movie. Watchmen doesn't fall under that trap.

Overall I give it a 7 out 10. I don't understand the hype, but then again, with comic book adaptations I never understand why full grown people get hardons for this stuff. lol
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look, it would be nice if the film industry could cater to your tastes, but not every movie can be "hope floats" or "while you were sleeping".
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Reply #100 posted 03/09/09 5:29pm

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Anxiety said:

BSOD said:

I liked it better than Dark Night.
It gives the comic book genre the treatment it really sort of deserves. Comic books are myth, and the heroes are like greek gods, full of powers beyond what mere mortals have, but possessing all of our faults. The movie had that feel.

However, the movie was a big mess, and I'm surprised I enjoyed it at all. It starts off emulating film noir much like Blade Runner did back in the 80's. Only, this movie is not nearly as clever or well done as Ridley Scott's attempts at the genre. Blade Runner also made a much better effort at combining the noir genre with sci-fi, where this movie ends up feeling akward when combining genres.

The premise and plot are generic and silly, and predictable. I never read the comic books, so I only have the movie to base this on. But it wasn't particularly interesting nor exactly exciting. Even that hot-as-fuck Mr. Manhattan dude's revelation at the end about life being a miracle was a snore-fest and reminding me of Keanu Reeve's revelation in the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still. I busted out laughing my ass off during that speach falloff cause it was so corny and stupid.
But then again, aren't all comic books really kind of stupid? lol

The strength of this movie isn't the plot--hell, I could have written that plot. The strength of the movie was the world it created, the characters it presented, and how easily you're immersed in that world. Before the openning credits ended, I was already sucked in.
The ambience of the world is both bleak and exciting. I kept seeing similarities not to Batman's Gotham city, but to Ridley Scott's futuristic Blade Runner world.
Also, it's finally nice to see a Super hero movie that is comfortable with being 'R' rated, but not really on the elements that give it an 'R' rating to serve as the entertainment. Too often, like in the Alien-V-Predator franchise, directories think, throwing a bunch of blood and guts into the movie will make the movie. Watchmen doesn't fall under that trap.

Overall I give it a 7 out 10. I don't understand the hype, but then again, with comic book adaptations I never understand why full grown people get hardons for this stuff. lol
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look, it would be nice if the film industry could cater to your tastes, but not every movie can be "hope floats" or "while you were sleeping".

Aren't you the guy that likes Xanadu and musical claymations? confuse
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Reply #101 posted 03/09/09 5:41pm

Anxiety

BSOD said:

Anxiety said:



look, it would be nice if the film industry could cater to your tastes, but not every movie can be "hope floats" or "while you were sleeping".

Aren't you the guy that likes Xanadu and musical claymations? confuse


you say that like it's a bad thing. shrug
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Reply #102 posted 03/10/09 4:04am

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Anxiety said:

BSOD said:


Aren't you the guy that likes Xanadu and musical claymations? confuse


you say that like it's a bad thing. shrug



oh, is that "one guy"? makes sense. rolleyes razz


PS: I need to see this again, because I'm dying to talk about it and I don't really want to voice a full opinion until I can digest it a second time. But the first couple of days, the more I thought about it, the less I liked it. But fortunately, NOW the more I think about it the more I *do* like it and I'm looking forward to watching it again. I wasn't on Saturday, so I didn't. I'll be ready any day now lol
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Reply #103 posted 03/10/09 1:25pm

Anxiety

errant said:

Anxiety said:



you say that like it's a bad thing. shrug



oh, is that "one guy"? makes sense. rolleyes razz


PS: I need to see this again, because I'm dying to talk about it and I don't really want to voice a full opinion until I can digest it a second time. But the first couple of days, the more I thought about it, the less I liked it. But fortunately, NOW the more I think about it the more I *do* like it and I'm looking forward to watching it again. I wasn't on Saturday, so I didn't. I'll be ready any day now lol


the more i read bad reviews of it, the more i want to be a total fammy fam for this film. don't get me wrong - i have plenty to complain about with "watchmen", but none of my gripes are being mentioned in the bad reviews, and the stuff they're complaining about is mostly the stuff i like! bitchez.
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Reply #104 posted 03/10/09 2:20pm

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Anxiety said:

errant said:




oh, is that "one guy"? makes sense. rolleyes razz


PS: I need to see this again, because I'm dying to talk about it and I don't really want to voice a full opinion until I can digest it a second time. But the first couple of days, the more I thought about it, the less I liked it. But fortunately, NOW the more I think about it the more I *do* like it and I'm looking forward to watching it again. I wasn't on Saturday, so I didn't. I'll be ready any day now lol


the more i read bad reviews of it, the more i want to be a total fammy fam for this film. don't get me wrong - i have plenty to complain about with "watchmen", but none of my gripes are being mentioned in the bad reviews, and the stuff they're complaining about is mostly the stuff i like! bitchez.


What are your gripes?
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Reply #105 posted 03/10/09 2:57pm

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FINALLY saw the flick.


It wasn't anywhere near as good as it could have been, but it was still good enough. I appreciate the difficulties translating the source material could have brought, and so I think even the attempt was pretty admirable. All the material that was cut or altered slightly, I understand why. Hope some of it makes the DVD.

Three things though:

1) I liked the music selection. I don't know what everyone is bitching about. Some of the choices were peculiar, yes. But it worked IMO.

2) How come nobody told me there was a bogus Bowie? excited

3) I couldn't decide if I wanted to punch Ozy or watch him get fucked. lurking redface
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Reply #106 posted 03/10/09 3:07pm

Anxiety

Efan said:

Anxiety said:



the more i read bad reviews of it, the more i want to be a total fammy fam for this film. don't get me wrong - i have plenty to complain about with "watchmen", but none of my gripes are being mentioned in the bad reviews, and the stuff they're complaining about is mostly the stuff i like! bitchez.


What are your gripes?


my biggest gripe was the make-up/prosthetics, which i'm sure to some extent was done on purpose to look comic book-y and caricature-ish, but i thought the make-up was so cheesy looking that it was a little distracting. sally jupiter should have been played by an older actress, and either made to look younger in flashbacks or else played by a younger actress for those scenes. nixon looked silly, and not in a good way. most of the people with prosthetic make-up looked like they'd just got done eating a sloppy bowl of oatmeal.
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Reply #107 posted 03/10/09 3:41pm

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i saw it last night. i thought it was excellent. not perfect, but.... really damn good

for taking an unfilmable book and making a pretty good film out of it, i was very impressed.
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Reply #108 posted 03/10/09 5:57pm

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cborgman said:

i saw it last night. i thought it was excellent. not perfect, but.... really damn good

for taking an unfilmable book and making a pretty good film out of it, i was very impressed.
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nod

It's hard material to work with. This project changed hands God only knows how many times because it was deemed unfilmable.
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Reply #109 posted 03/10/09 11:02pm

wonder505

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I liked it better than Dark Night.
It gives the comic book genre the treatment it really sort of deserves. Comic books are myth, and the heroes are like greek gods, full of powers beyond what mere mortals have, but possessing all of our faults. The movie had that feel.

However, the movie was a big mess, and I'm surprised I enjoyed it at all. It starts off emulating film noir much like Blade Runner did back in the 80's. Only, this movie is not nearly as clever or well done as Ridley Scott's attempts at the genre. Blade Runner also made a much better effort at combining the noir genre with sci-fi, where this movie ends up feeling akward when combining genres.

The premise and plot are generic and silly, and predictable. I never read the comic books, so I only have the movie to base this on. But it wasn't particularly interesting nor exactly exciting. Even that hot-as-fuck Mr. Manhattan dude's revelation at the end about life being a miracle was a snore-fest and reminding me of Keanu Reeve's revelation in the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still. I busted out laughing my ass off during that speach falloff cause it was so corny and stupid.
But then again, aren't all comic books really kind of stupid? lol

The strength of this movie isn't the plot--hell, I could have written that plot. The strength of the movie was the world it created, the characters it presented, and how easily you're immersed in that world. Before the openning credits ended, I was already sucked in.
The ambience of the world is both bleak and exciting. I kept seeing similarities not to Batman's Gotham city, but to Ridley Scott's futuristic Blade Runner world.
Also, it's finally nice to see a Super hero movie that is comfortable with being 'R' rated, but not really on the elements that give it an 'R' rating to serve as the entertainment. Too often, like in the Alien-V-Predator franchise, directories think, throwing a bunch of blood and guts into the movie will make the movie. Watchmen doesn't fall under that trap.

Overall I give it a 7 out 10. I don't understand the hype, but then again, with comic book adaptations I never understand why full grown people get hardons for this stuff. lol
[Edited 3/9/09 7:33am]


It's funny you mention Blade Runner bcuz the movie itself opened to very mix reviews although its considered a sci-fi masterpiece to many. Interrested you found the Watchmen ending predictable. I never thought it would end the way it did and it definately doesn't fit any typical ending.
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Reply #110 posted 03/11/09 1:06am

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wonder505 said:

BSOD said:

I liked it better than Dark Night.
It gives the comic book genre the treatment it really sort of deserves. Comic books are myth, and the heroes are like greek gods, full of powers beyond what mere mortals have, but possessing all of our faults. The movie had that feel.

However, the movie was a big mess, and I'm surprised I enjoyed it at all. It starts off emulating film noir much like Blade Runner did back in the 80's. Only, this movie is not nearly as clever or well done as Ridley Scott's attempts at the genre. Blade Runner also made a much better effort at combining the noir genre with sci-fi, where this movie ends up feeling akward when combining genres.

The premise and plot are generic and silly, and predictable. I never read the comic books, so I only have the movie to base this on. But it wasn't particularly interesting nor exactly exciting. Even that hot-as-fuck Mr. Manhattan dude's revelation at the end about life being a miracle was a snore-fest and reminding me of Keanu Reeve's revelation in the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still. I busted out laughing my ass off during that speach falloff cause it was so corny and stupid.
But then again, aren't all comic books really kind of stupid? lol

The strength of this movie isn't the plot--hell, I could have written that plot. The strength of the movie was the world it created, the characters it presented, and how easily you're immersed in that world. Before the openning credits ended, I was already sucked in.
The ambience of the world is both bleak and exciting. I kept seeing similarities not to Batman's Gotham city, but to Ridley Scott's futuristic Blade Runner world.
Also, it's finally nice to see a Super hero movie that is comfortable with being 'R' rated, but not really on the elements that give it an 'R' rating to serve as the entertainment. Too often, like in the Alien-V-Predator franchise, directories think, throwing a bunch of blood and guts into the movie will make the movie. Watchmen doesn't fall under that trap.

Overall I give it a 7 out 10. I don't understand the hype, but then again, with comic book adaptations I never understand why full grown people get hardons for this stuff. lol
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It's funny you mention Blade Runner bcuz the movie itself opened to very mix reviews although its considered a sci-fi masterpiece to many. Interrested you found the Watchmen ending predictable. I never thought it would end the way it did and it definately doesn't fit any typical ending.
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The genius of Watchmen's ending was that it was so, for lack of a better word, bittersweet. It's only sort of happy, only sort of sad. Though it was presented better in the GN, It's a very morally grey ending, something more movies could benefit from IMO.
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Reply #111 posted 03/11/09 1:15am

wonder505

meow85 said:

wonder505 said:



It's funny you mention Blade Runner bcuz the movie itself opened to very mix reviews although its considered a sci-fi masterpiece to many. Interrested you found the Watchmen ending predictable. I never thought it would end the way it did and it definately doesn't fit any typical ending.
[Edited 3/10/09 16:04pm]

The genius of Watchmen's ending was that it was so, for lack of a better word, bittersweet. It's only sort of happy, only sort of sad. Though it was presented better in the GN, It's a very morally grey ending, something more movies could benefit from IMO.


I heard the ending was slightly different in the graphic novel, had to do with an alien or something. I agree with you, the ending made you really think.
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Reply #112 posted 03/11/09 1:32am

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wonder505 said:

meow85 said:


The genius of Watchmen's ending was that it was so, for lack of a better word, bittersweet. It's only sort of happy, only sort of sad. Though it was presented better in the GN, It's a very morally grey ending, something more movies could benefit from IMO.


I heard the ending was slightly different in the graphic novel, had to do with an alien or something. I agree with you, the ending made you really think.

Spoiler alert! Spoilers!









I think I prefer the movie's ending. Either way, I think both endings validate the claim that Ozymandias is "the world's smartest man." He had everything completely worked out. Dr. Manhattan was the most powerful being on the planet, but he was completely backed into a corner by Veidt. And while Rorschach would never be able to go along with the plan, it's obvious to the reader why the rest of the characters do.
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Reply #113 posted 03/11/09 1:43am

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AlexdeParis said:

wonder505 said:



I heard the ending was slightly different in the graphic novel, had to do with an alien or something. I agree with you, the ending made you really think.

Spoiler alert! Spoilers!









I think I prefer the movie's ending. Either way, I think both endings validate the claim that Ozymandias is "the world's smartest man." He had everything completely worked out. Dr. Manhattan was the most powerful being on the planet, but he was completely backed into a corner by Veidt. And while Rorschach would never be able to go along with the plan, it's obvious to the reader why the rest of the characters do.

nod


Much as I love them, you know X-Men never would have chosen to sacrifice the few for the many.
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