errant said:

You're going right back to see it again? I salute your stamina! Personally, I wish it had been shorter; I would have cut at least 20 minutes from it.

The day after seeing the movie, I really started to dislike what I had viewed. The more I think about it, the less I like the movie. I appreciate what a monumental task they had in bringing this book to the screen, and I particularly think that Patrick Wilson did a phenomenal job, but ultimately I really think the movie failed in a very disappointing way.

Very boring. I was disappointed.

I did like Jackie E as Rorschach though. Highlight of the movie by far. Rorschach's theme was nifty tech-noir and hearing Alan Moore's angry prose in his voiceovers was beautiful.

...this movie has the worst scoring/soundtracking ever...


other than that I quite enjoyed it

I went and saw it today.

Let me give it to ya like this.....

First of all, I'm not a comic book nerd, therefore I knew nothing of "The Watchmen" when the film was first brought to my attention. As a matter of fact, I thought this movie was a piss take - or a parody if you will of such movies as "The Dark Knight." I thought it was going to be a parody in the style of "Scary Movie" and what not.

However, I was proven wrong when I finally saw the preview. I was impressed actually and was looking incredibly forward to checkin it out for myself.....

Now, as I said, I'm no comic book nerd which I suppose explains the reason why, throughout this entire "movie" - so called, I had absolutely NO IDEA as to what the hell was goin on right in front of me. It was like the film had no plot line at all and it wasn't going anywhere but in a whole bunch of circles. It also seemed to try and be preachy and what not, but IMO it fell FLAT.

....And another thing, the violence in this movie was DISGUSTING!!!!!

This guy gets his arms cut off with a grinder and bloot spurts out all over the room, then some other guy stabs the hell outta another one with a butcher knife.....actually, it's more like he stabs his skull with it continuously. Then a midget gets killed in a public toilet.

And YES....the song choice was VERY bizarre....who the hell gets killed to Nat King cole's "Unforgettable"?


Let's let Denzel give the final verdict on this flick:



EXACTLY.

Straight up doo-doo feces.....shamon.....AW!!! Heee Hee.

Rightly said:

Care to elaborate?

Lammastide said:

All the main characters are white, but I've heard it argued that Dr. Manhattan doesn't really have a race at all anymore, both literally and figuratively. He's a big blue, bald guy, so any visual markers go out the door, and since he's become so powerful he really has more in common with what we'd call a god than any particular human category.

Hope that helps.

meow85 said:

It's cool. Thanks.

If there's a way to answer this without spoiling anything for others, I'd appreciate knowing...

How much camera time does Matt Frewer as Moloch get? I've always liked him.

meow85 said:

You ever notice there there are more BLUE superheroes than there are black ones?

Lammastide said:

Just one of the supporting cast (in the book), and I think that's somewhat intentional, in the case of Watchmen, at least in the book. The characters come from an era when there weren't any (or many) super-heroes of color. They come from the 40's through the 60's. You might even say that the lack of non-white main characters is another subtle, implied commentary on the superhero genre to add to all the others.

I too, am a novice to The Watchmen series, my only knowledge of it was the trailers used previews last year. I'll probably buy the book just as a keepsake and something to look at, but I doubt ( never say never ) I'll go bonkers to of fanboyville. I saw it yesterday because there were no other movies as interesting that I haven't already seen. From the perspective of a novice, my overall score for the movie was SIX out TEN.

Pros: Visual looks, CGI, special effects and cinematography. The staging of the fight scenes were good, just like what Snyder did in 300. And best of all, Jackie Earle Haley as Rorschach,he was to this movie what Heath was to Dark Knight, the one everyone will fawn over.

Cons: Dr. Manhattan, for all his nakedness and powers, seemed like the weakest character of the movie, he was too neutral and nonchalant to be believed as a good guy. He didn't do much besides crush a tank and teleport to Mars. Were it not for his horrid , violent and sexist behavior, The Comedian would have been the equal to Rorschach as " The COOl Character ". Aside from Dr. Malcolm Long, the psychoanalyst who tried to interview Rorschach/Kovacs, there would have been no prominent black character throughout the movie. We can't go back in time to compel Alan Moore, the author of the comic to add a spot for a Black, Chinese, Indian, Puerto Rican or any ethnic character for PC sake. I don't ultimately care that there wasn't an ethnic hero from WATCHMEN, but if the author thought well enough to have a woman hero in the story from the beginning , why not one for people who aren't white.

I'll see it again in IMAX, and then wait for Blu-Ray.

UncleGrandpa said:

One of the things that get lost in putting Watchmen on the big screen after all this time is the background that (along with many other aspects) makes it so important to comics readers. The principle characters in Watchmen are based on other, lesser-known characters that DC purchased the rights to in the 1980s (Dr. Manhattan = Capt. Atom, Silk Spectre = Nightshade, etc.). Watchmen was originally supposed to be about these characters, but DC wouldn't let Moore do that, so he renamed them and changed them in pretty minor ways. Watchmen the book deconstructs the superhero milieu in ways that the movie just can't, after all this time. The book, I feel, addresses race, sexuality, and much more in a better way.

errant said:

Oh, so he is naked. I wasn't that concerned, just curious how they were going to handle that.

errant said:

Or green or pink or...


I wonder what the deal with that is? Was there a sale on blue ink?

errant said:

I never even considered that angle.

Saw the movie this afternoon.
Saw the first two animated episodes last night.
Movie was okay. I did like the characters.

JerseyKRS said:

I did not like him . . . . .
I actually liked that asshole 'C . . .' more . . .

meow85 said:

For me it was what I expected, it's what it delivered. A bloated story.
It was okay but I feel no need to own it. I've seen it twice and that's enough.
It put me to sleep at the the same place, with the kidnappings, . . .knew where that was all going, so drawn out. Heath Ledger wasn't anything incredible, and I still see Nickelson's performance in Ledger's.
I would still grade it a B.

NewPowerToad said:

I watched Max Payne last night and hated it. What a waste.

I was indifferent to the penis after a couple of viewings but I like the character Dr. Manhattan. I think he's just bored with humanity and sees a lot of wasted potential.

This movie, and the book naturally, are intended to stimulate conversation by giving a common reference point. You can say "yeah, Objectivism is kind of like Rorschach when he did XYZ" etc.

Also, there are no black superheros in this because there are no black superpowers in world governments. The characters represent philosophies as well as actual government "stances" at various points in history. Note, however, that the NY scene shows an older white man and a young black man holding each other as the world blows up in front of their faces.

If you're hoping for the best movie of all time, ya right. If you're hoping for a movie that can spark all kinds of conversation, pontificating, soapboxing, and the like, this will be great.

Well, as a long-time fan of the comic, I have to say that was all kinds of AWESOME! Wow! Loved the opening where they showed glimpses of the Minutemen without really going into their story. That was a nice nod to the fans. It was very faithful to the book; I understand and support all of the changes/omissions. The new ending works perfectly, because it sets up the same situation without having to explain a lot of the original setup (i.e., the disappearances). They absolutely nailed both Rorschach and Nite Owl. As far as the music goes, I loved it with the notable exception of "Hallelujah." Other than that, it was as close to perfect as they could've gotten. I didn't even mind the length and I normally hate movies that go well over 2 hours. Blows the last two big comic book movies (Iron Man and The Dark Knight) out of the water! Easily in my top 3 of all time.

Can't wait to buy the Black Freighter disc!

I saw the movie last night and loved it! They did a really great job exploring the consequences and realism of being a super hero, and what actually happens to a person when they take on the role. Lot's of psychological stuff and kick ass action scenes.

AlexdeParis said:

It seemed to be as long as The Dark Knight but it was better than 'Knight' or 'Iron Man.' I wasn't familiar with The Watchmen before seeing the trailer but I liked it.

AlexdeParis said:

Top Three what?
What are the Top Two?

SUPRMAN said:

Comic book movies. The first two Spidey movies are as close to perfect as superhero movies have gotten.

Loved Watchmen just as much (if not more) after my second viewing!
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AlexdeParis said:

I thought the music was pretty off for most of the movie, but that song for that scene was by far the worst

otherwise I agree the movie was really good


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Still haven't seen it the second time. I need to before I pass final judgement, but my friend and I were on our way there and decided to go to the bar and get drunk instead.

It'll probably be good to let my ambivalence recede before seeing it again and making up my mind.

My wife & I went to see it last night with some friends.

None of us had read the novel.

Three hours later, I was impressed, my wife was confused, and our friends were half-asleep.

I guess it's one of those movies that you either "get" or you don't. Love/Hate.

I personally found it very interesting, and had no problem following the storyline and (atypical) character development. The "Roosevelt-ish" extended Nixon administration was funny. Did anyone notice the poster in the background (in 2 scenes) calling for Vietnam to be our 51st State?


I wouldn't mind seeing it again, and maybe pick up on details that I missed the first time around. Although...did they REALLY need to give the blue penis so much exposure? The cobalt cock was in more scenes than the original Jupiter woman. Also, the movie was too long. They should've made it in 2 parts IMO.

thekidsgirl said:

I liked the rest of the music. "The Times They Are A-Changing" was a fantastic choice. "The Sound of Silence," the Hendrix version of "All Along the Watchtower," and the subtle, barely audible "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" also worked well IMO. "Unforgettable" was a nice juxtaposition with the violent scene. I had no problem with "99 Luftballoons." Which ones didn't you like?



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AlexdeParis said:

I like/love all those songs, they just didn't seem to fit in with the scenes to me