Nope, absolutely not. They may be different but they are not "worse".

meow85 said:

sorry
but should i ever have kids, they will get spankings if they're acting up

i trust in the method

Vendetta1 said:

Nooooo...that's a fact.

They're weaker and lazier that's for sure but i do think they're smarter.

Harlepolis said:

i figured out adults 100% when i was in the second grade.

my 2nd grade teacher, an apostolic woman, whose grandchildren were in the same class room with me and the rest of the class, came in one day at the beginning of class with some big secret to tell us.

At the front of the whole class she told us we couldn't tell any one this secret and proceeded to tell the entire class about a much loved student in the other second grade class across the hall.

Her big secret was that he still peed his pants. I was absolutely mortified for him and angry that the the nice girls who colored perfect and god loved them, their perfect granny up at the front of the room not teaching, but gossiping like a little girl.

Everyone knew this boy Aaron, knew he was adopted, knew he had serious medical problems and was lucky to even be alive, and could die at anytime. He is still alive and well to this day, but then they didnt have such great treatments for whatever his problem was. He wanted to be a comedian, . Which even then he was super funny and above average smart, and still is, now he's an optometrist.

After that my whole image of my god like school teachers was crushed. Then all hope was lost for me that there were better people in the world than my step-mom. The teacher being a religious figure of sorts then made me 100% doubt anything about religion at that age too. From that point on with my heightened awareness I was proved over and over again that adults were 98% BS and religion was fake. Liars hypocrites fakes cowards.

Children arent oblivious to what is going on, they just observe silent horror.




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Cuddles said:

this is true too

I hate it when adults judge the kids as if they adopted their fuckery by themselves.

Kids are like sponges, they absorb everything in their environment,,,,its YOU who should be protecting them from that fuckery.

Harlepolis said:

That's right, people claiming that kids are worse are really saying that they are the ones that are worse. That they are the fuck ups.

Oh, but of course... it's not their kids, just everyone else's.

JustErin said:

Parents do have a big impact on a childs behaviour and their attitude towards life and others, but the little ones spend half of the day at school with other people their age whose parents may not be that caring. These children may have a big impact too. That said, I think parents can also influence the way their kids absorb the things that happen around them/react to other kids behaving not so well.

Dave1992 said:

Of course they can. That's what parenting is all about.

Parenting is key.
Compromising is not. (in my opinion anyway)

Harlepolis said:

Well I give a fuck. More than a fuck and my daughter still goes out of her way to be rebellious. Unfortunately, she is surrounded with kids whose parents buy their love and don't give a fuck.

Vendetta1 said:

I'm talking about the careless parents who are quick to brush off their kids and other people's kids as "fuck ups" when they haven't even tried to sit them down or can't even have a straight up & honest conversation with them.

People are fucking BLIND! Everyone is. Blind and fucking DEAF! WAKE THE FUCK UP, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! YOU'RE THE DECIDER OF YOUR OWN FUCKING FATE! YOU'RE THE INCUBUS THAT CRACKED THE FUCKING EGG! DON'T BLAME! TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR HELLSPAWN!
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sammij said:

We're going to have to disagree on this, but I think corporal punishment is barbaric. Whether the target is an adult or a child, it's the last resort of an authority who hasn't tried hard enough to solve a problem IMO.

But, I'm not going to veer this thread into a debate on corporal punishment, so I'll leave it at that.

Vendetta1 said:

Some kids will do that. Hopefully yours will turn out alright in spite of that.

My own mother, I realize now as an adult, was better than a lot. God knows she wasn't perfect. She made some glaring mistakes in our upbringing. But she tried. She gave a fuck. And she went that extra mile that so many parents won't bother with. I understand now in a way I couldn't when I was younger just how lucky my sister and I were to have a parent like her, especially in contrast to the fuckups some of our friends had the misfortune of calling Mom or Dad. Sad to say, I think more than rather than fewer than of my friends had parents who genuinely did not give a shit about their offspring. Most of them have turned out okay in spite of it, but it'd be a lie to say the damage doesn't show in each of them.

I agree with everyone here who's pointed out that if there is something wrong with the current generation (I'd dispute that, but IF there is) it's not their fault, but everyone's.

Spanking is good as an alternate method of intercourse, though. Never rule that out. Sadomasochism is a fantastic venture into erotic deviance territories for the exploration of a new platform of debauchery.

Mysterioso said:

yeah, my step-mom was quite kinky with methods of spanking.

for realz though

Mysterioso said:

LOL, you are like Number23 Jr.

Arnotts said:

when I was a kid I wasn't so much spoiled as overprotected, I was prevented from doing anything by myself, even at the age of 21, my dad said come work for me, it's the recession, you won't get a job now. I believed him
It took a lot of guts for me to secretly apply for a job in the big bad city, find an apartment and move 4 hours drive away from them.
It's also left me afraid to do things and I have to force myself to get going most of the time.

Dayclear said:

JayJai said:

they cant be that weak when man y have taken over the role of the parent to their brothers and sisters

Yes.
And so are the parents.

AnckSuNamun said:

So many adults use it as well

I'm 21 and I have to say my generation and the generation coming up now is gonna be pretty bad.

I'm 15 almost 16, so I fall into the category of the teenagers now, but I hate the way teens act. My parents taught me manners, like saying please and thank you, respecting those who are older than me, holding the door for someone else, etc. Some of the people in my school are just rood and vulgar. I hear all these people talk about how much they hate their parents, but can never give a valid reason why. I hear about 15 year olds having sex (which is just stupid, because we're still just kids). It's horrible. I'm one of the few people I know who actually has a good relationship with my parents. I love hanging out with my mom on the weekend. I love going to geeky movies with my dad (I skipped the last half of school one day to go see Star Wars Episode 3 with my dad). My parents spanked me up until age 5 and I turned out fine. When I have kids, I'll probably use the same meathods they did (as a last resort like they did). My parents are awsome and because of them, I'm a strait A student who doesn't let my peers determain how I should act. I can only hope that there are more out there like me and parents like mine.

I don't mean to sound pretentious, I really don't. I just have to rant about my generation sometimes, becuase I feel like I don't belong in it. I've been told I'm mature for my age many times, so you'll have to forgive me.

Charmed12 said:

This post made me smile, hugely
keep on keepin' on, love

Heck yeah!! Well to be fair, some of the teens and tweeners are very good and respectful, but there are some really bad tweeners and teens out there.

Fauxie said:

Perfect answer! I was thinking the same thing.

You cant generalise really , there are good and bad , always have been .

Trouble IMHO is that kids these days try to be too grown up and thats where a lot of the problems stem from . There seem to be more parents who just dont seem to care as much , they dont have time what with working more and when they get free time just want it to themselves .

Kids have to much too young , want more , they never happy and take things for granted