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Reply #120 posted 03/07/09 9:57am

TonyVanDam

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MRGee said:

Is it a Negative form of Music?/Talking?


Concerning the LGBTs.....

Hip-hop has always been anti-gay in nature (especially when the gangsta style was created). Both the hip-hop & the R&R communities hated gay culture just like they hated the disco community in the late 70's. The whole notion of straights & LGBTs being able to co-exist and agree on anything such as disco OR life during Studio 54 was declare unacceptable.

Most male rappers of many generations have always been anti-gay. But at the same time, most of these same sexual hypocrites would have no issues with having lipstick lesbians and bisexual women in their music videos! And please don't get me started about the very few straight rappers that already had connections to pre-op trannies in their videos, on award shows, or in some clubs!!!
disbelief lol

Concerning the women.....

If you have a perfect understanding of the differences between a lady, a hoe, AND a bitch, then you might understand the borderline sexism that exist in all music genres, not just hip-hop.
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Reply #121 posted 03/07/09 10:00am

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Ace said:

There does seem to be a preponderance of homophobia in the rap community. And can't say I hear many respectful references to women. And what about Public Enemy getting a pass for their anti-Semitism ("Welcome to the Terrordome", "Swindler's Lust", etc.). Is there anything more ironic than a group so concerned with racism indulging in anti-Jewish slurs?


Professor Griff isn't anti-jewish. He's anti-Zionism. THAT's a huge difference!!! disbelief lol
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Reply #122 posted 03/07/09 10:10am

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SirPsycho said:

i kw this is only gonna motivate ore ignorance in the thread but i cant resist..




lol @ THE look on Huey's face!
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Reply #123 posted 03/07/09 1:28pm

JasmineFire

TonyVanDam said:

SirPsycho said:

i kw this is only gonna motivate ore ignorance in the thread but i cant resist..




lol @ THE look on Huey's face!

I majorly heart Huey.
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Reply #124 posted 03/07/09 1:54pm

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TonyVanDam said:

Ace said:

There does seem to be a preponderance of homophobia in the rap community. And can't say I hear many respectful references to women. And what about Public Enemy getting a pass for their anti-Semitism ("Welcome to the Terrordome", "Swindler's Lust", etc.). Is there anything more ironic than a group so concerned with racism indulging in anti-Jewish slurs?


Professor Griff isn't anti-jewish. He's anti-Zionism. THAT's a huge difference!!! disbelief lol

Sure he is. That's why he accused Jewish people of running the world, and failed to mention Zionism completely:

That's when Griff, an admirer of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, told the Washington Times that "Jews are wicked...[and responsible for] the majority of wickedness that goes on across the globe." In particular, he said that Jews financed the slave trade and were "responsible for what's happening in South Africa" and wondered aloud whether it is "a coincidence that the Jews run the jewelry business and it's named Jewelry?"

http://www.people.com/peo...74,00.html
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Reply #125 posted 03/07/09 5:59pm

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meow85 said:

TonyVanDam said:



Professor Griff isn't anti-jewish. He's anti-Zionism. THAT's a huge difference!!! disbelief lol

Sure he is. That's why he accused Jewish people of running the world, and failed to mention Zionism completely:

That's when Griff, an admirer of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, told the Washington Times that "Jews are wicked...[and responsible for] the majority of wickedness that goes on across the globe." In particular, he said that Jews financed the slave trade and were "responsible for what's happening in South Africa" and wondered aloud whether it is "a coincidence that the Jews run the jewelry business and it's named Jewelry?"

http://www.people.com/peo...74,00.html


.....despite the fact that the quotes were printed and taken completely out of context by journalist David Mills, who interviewed Public Enemy (besides Griff) a few times before this soon to be controversial Washington Times interview. rolleyes
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Reply #126 posted 03/07/09 6:17pm

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SirPsycho said:

i kw this is only gonna motivate ore ignorance in the thread but i cant resist..


"homies over hos...do the homey!!" dancing jig falloff i miss the boondocks , yo sad
life's a bitch, but god forbid the bitch divorce me...

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Reply #127 posted 03/07/09 7:58pm

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hokie said:





Oh my god. I can't believe you just said this.

Believe it. This poster has on several occasions been unnecessarily hostile and confrontational. I just want to know what we're dealing with.


I wasn't even talking to you in the first place, nor was I starting an argument with anyone. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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Reply #128 posted 03/07/09 8:03pm

Fauxie

This thread went weird. eek
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Reply #129 posted 03/07/09 11:56pm

SirPsycho

Fauxie said:

This thread went weird. eek


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Reply #130 posted 03/08/09 5:25am

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TonyVanDam said:

meow85 said:


Sure he is. That's why he accused Jewish people of running the world, and failed to mention Zionism completely:

That's when Griff, an admirer of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, told the Washington Times that "Jews are wicked...[and responsible for] the majority of wickedness that goes on across the globe." In particular, he said that Jews financed the slave trade and were "responsible for what's happening in South Africa" and wondered aloud whether it is "a coincidence that the Jews run the jewelry business and it's named Jewelry?"

http://www.people.com/peo...74,00.html


.....despite the fact that the quotes were printed and taken completely out of context by journalist David Mills, who interviewed Public Enemy (besides Griff) a few times before this soon to be controversial Washington Times interview. rolleyes

Can you provide any context that would make his comments NOT anti-semitic?
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Reply #131 posted 03/08/09 7:53am

JasmineFire

SirPsycho said:

Fauxie said:

This thread went weird. eek



falloff
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Reply #132 posted 03/08/09 5:20pm

TonyVanDam

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meow85 said:

TonyVanDam said:



.....despite the fact that the quotes were printed and taken completely out of context by journalist David Mills, who interviewed Public Enemy (besides Griff) a few times before this soon to be controversial Washington Times interview. rolleyes

Can you provide any context that would make his comments NOT anti-semitic?


Go read Chuck D's autobiography, Fight The Power. He wrote a whole chapter specifically about THAT controversy, not to mention how the media (especially David Mills) were playing divide & conquer within Public Enemy. wink
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