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Reply #30 posted 02/27/09 9:18am

veronikka

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veronikka said:

The place i work for has been laying off people as well, today we lost 6 people sad next big layoff is in June sigh

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sad

cross fingers u r safe vero hug



I know, it really does worry me sad

good luck to you hug
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Reply #31 posted 02/27/09 10:37am

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In the past 6 months we have gone from 60 to 20.
We have split the 20 into two companies so we can keep everyone.
Long story....

No one knows who will be NEXT, its difficult sometimes. The wondering alone causes depression.

Im very lucky to STILL have a job.

My overtime is what used to keep me going....ha!!! that is looong gone.
Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize
u simply imagined this
So u lean over and give her a kiss
Here on earth, here on earth,
with u it's not so bad
Here on earth, here on earth
eye don't feel so sad
Stay right here
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Reply #32 posted 02/27/09 11:37am

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Reply #33 posted 02/27/09 11:41am

RodeoSchro

Here's my take. It might piss y'all off, but maybe it won't.

First of all, I'm sorry you're losing your job. When one door closes, another opens. I know you'll be OK.

But you know what? I didn't hear you express any remorse for the owner. You are losing a source of income. The owner is most likely losing EVERYTHING. He not only loses HIS job, but he loses whatever money he's sunk into the company over the years. If he's lucky, he won't have any lingering debt, but if he's like most, he'll be left with debt he'll have to pay. You, on the other hand, get to walk out of that sinking ship and you don't have to carry a single liability with you.

You were paid for what you did - fairly paid, I assume, or you wouldn't have stuck around for 9 years. What else do you want? Why should you be thanked for doing what you were paid to do? That may sound harsh, but from your employer's point of view, that's the way it is.

My heart goes out for you, no doubt. I believe you're a nice person. But I also know what the owner is going through. From your post, I gather he isn't shutting it down because he wants to. He's shutting it down because he's broke.

He's lost everything. Cut him some slack. In fact, thank HIM for the job he gave you for 9 years. I promise you he will appreciate that with all his heart, and I bet then you'll get the thanks you're looking for.

My two cents.
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Reply #34 posted 02/27/09 11:57am

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RodeoSchro said:

Here's my take. It might piss y'all off, but maybe it won't.

First of all, I'm sorry you're losing your job. When one door closes, another opens. I know you'll be OK.

But you know what? I didn't hear you express any remorse for the owner. You are losing a source of income. The owner is most likely losing EVERYTHING. He not only loses HIS job, but he loses whatever money he's sunk into the company over the years. If he's lucky, he won't have any lingering debt, but if he's like most, he'll be left with debt he'll have to pay. You, on the other hand, get to walk out of that sinking ship and you don't have to carry a single liability with you.

You were paid for what you did - fairly paid, I assume, or you wouldn't have stuck around for 9 years. What else do you want? Why should you be thanked for doing what you were paid to do? That may sound harsh, but from your employer's point of view, that's the way it is.

My heart goes out for you, no doubt. I believe you're a nice person. But I also know what the owner is going through. From your post, I gather he isn't shutting it down because he wants to. He's shutting it down because he's broke.

He's lost everything. Cut him some slack. In fact, thank HIM for the job he gave you for 9 years. I promise you he will appreciate that with all his heart, and I bet then you'll get the thanks you're looking for.

My two cents.


Do you know why he is closing or that he actually has lost everything?

The workers have their families to support mortgages or rent to pay, hence liabilities.

If he has lost everything then everyone loses and feels agrieved.

You're a decent guy, but I think the comments are too harsh without the facts... which we have no right to know.



I have my own business... if I go under it's my problem.


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Reply #35 posted 02/27/09 12:02pm

Genesia

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RodeoSchro said:

Here's my take. It might piss y'all off, but maybe it won't.

First of all, I'm sorry you're losing your job. When one door closes, another opens. I know you'll be OK.

But you know what? I didn't hear you express any remorse for the owner. You are losing a source of income. The owner is most likely losing EVERYTHING. He not only loses HIS job, but he loses whatever money he's sunk into the company over the years. If he's lucky, he won't have any lingering debt, but if he's like most, he'll be left with debt he'll have to pay. You, on the other hand, get to walk out of that sinking ship and you don't have to carry a single liability with you.

You were paid for what you did - fairly paid, I assume, or you wouldn't have stuck around for 9 years. What else do you want? Why should you be thanked for doing what you were paid to do? That may sound harsh, but from your employer's point of view, that's the way it is.

My heart goes out for you, no doubt. I believe you're a nice person. But I also know what the owner is going through. From your post, I gather he isn't shutting it down because he wants to. He's shutting it down because he's broke.

He's lost everything. Cut him some slack. In fact, thank HIM for the job he gave you for 9 years. I promise you he will appreciate that with all his heart, and I bet then you'll get the thanks you're looking for.

My two cents.


Well said.
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Reply #36 posted 02/27/09 1:13pm

RodeoSchro

Steadwood said:

RodeoSchro said:

Here's my take. It might piss y'all off, but maybe it won't.

First of all, I'm sorry you're losing your job. When one door closes, another opens. I know you'll be OK.

But you know what? I didn't hear you express any remorse for the owner. You are losing a source of income. The owner is most likely losing EVERYTHING. He not only loses HIS job, but he loses whatever money he's sunk into the company over the years. If he's lucky, he won't have any lingering debt, but if he's like most, he'll be left with debt he'll have to pay. You, on the other hand, get to walk out of that sinking ship and you don't have to carry a single liability with you.

You were paid for what you did - fairly paid, I assume, or you wouldn't have stuck around for 9 years. What else do you want? Why should you be thanked for doing what you were paid to do? That may sound harsh, but from your employer's point of view, that's the way it is.

My heart goes out for you, no doubt. I believe you're a nice person. But I also know what the owner is going through. From your post, I gather he isn't shutting it down because he wants to. He's shutting it down because he's broke.

He's lost everything. Cut him some slack. In fact, thank HIM for the job he gave you for 9 years. I promise you he will appreciate that with all his heart, and I bet then you'll get the thanks you're looking for.

My two cents.


Do you know why he is closing or that he actually has lost everything?

The workers have their families to support mortgages or rent to pay, hence liabilities.

If he has lost everything then everyone loses and feels agrieved.

You're a decent guy, but I think the comments are too harsh without the facts... which we have no right to know.



I have my own business... if I go under it's my problem.


smile


My point exactly. If you go under, you don't expect any sympathy from your employees, do you? So why should the reverse be true?

And the business owner that is closing down ALSO has a mortgage, family, etc. But he also almost certainly has business debt, which the employee does not have.

Show me a business owner that is closing because he's MAKING money and I'll eat my hat.

I think you're a decent person, too! smile
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Reply #37 posted 02/27/09 1:13pm

RodeoSchro

Genesia said:

RodeoSchro said:

Here's my take. It might piss y'all off, but maybe it won't.

First of all, I'm sorry you're losing your job. When one door closes, another opens. I know you'll be OK.

But you know what? I didn't hear you express any remorse for the owner. You are losing a source of income. The owner is most likely losing EVERYTHING. He not only loses HIS job, but he loses whatever money he's sunk into the company over the years. If he's lucky, he won't have any lingering debt, but if he's like most, he'll be left with debt he'll have to pay. You, on the other hand, get to walk out of that sinking ship and you don't have to carry a single liability with you.

You were paid for what you did - fairly paid, I assume, or you wouldn't have stuck around for 9 years. What else do you want? Why should you be thanked for doing what you were paid to do? That may sound harsh, but from your employer's point of view, that's the way it is.

My heart goes out for you, no doubt. I believe you're a nice person. But I also know what the owner is going through. From your post, I gather he isn't shutting it down because he wants to. He's shutting it down because he's broke.

He's lost everything. Cut him some slack. In fact, thank HIM for the job he gave you for 9 years. I promise you he will appreciate that with all his heart, and I bet then you'll get the thanks you're looking for.

My two cents.


Well said.


Thank you! smile
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Reply #38 posted 02/27/09 2:19pm

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Reply #39 posted 02/27/09 5:26pm

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Reply #40 posted 02/27/09 5:50pm

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With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #41 posted 02/27/09 6:10pm

PEJ

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hug I truly feel for you in these hard times.
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #42 posted 02/28/09 12:06am

MarySharon

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veronikka said:

prb said:


sad

cross fingers u r safe vero hug



I know, it really does worry me sad

good luck to you hug


We all are worried, aren't we. Fucking worldwide crisis!

Good luck U two hug
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Reply #43 posted 02/28/09 6:55am

Genesia

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RodeoSchro said:

Genesia said:



Well said.


Thank you! smile


My dad owned a small business. I know the worries...not firsthand, but close. shrug
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Reply #44 posted 02/28/09 5:21pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Steadwood said:



Do you know why he is closing or that he actually has lost everything?

The workers have their families to support mortgages or rent to pay, hence liabilities.

If he has lost everything then everyone loses and feels agrieved.

You're a decent guy, but I think the comments are too harsh without the facts... which we have no right to know.



I have my own business... if I go under it's my problem.


smile


My point exactly. If you go under, you don't expect any sympathy from your employees, do you? So why should the reverse be true?

And the business owner that is closing down ALSO has a mortgage, family, etc. But he also almost certainly has business debt, which the employee does not have.

Show me a business owner that is closing because he's MAKING money and I'll eat my hat.

I think you're a decent person, too! smile


It's natural in times of crisis to point blame... I think most of us do it... I know I do...

...I also think we are singing the same song to a slightly different tune

...These are really tough times when we all have to pull together... I know I don't really need tell you that...

...PRB is a lovely person and needs our suppurt... and also the owner of the business she worked for... I am sure she cares... hug


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