CarrieMpls said:

Me either

CarrieMpls said:

This must have been the OS-9 days.

BSOD said:

BSOD said:

Actually when I went to the new hard drive I moved to OS X. I think. I know I had the disks for both of them.
And when the second one went that was it for me. It was too expensive to replace. Again, the value simply isn't there.

mdiver said:

Well, it's like saying you would never by a PC because you had so much trouble on your Windows NT 4.0 computer.

CarrieMpls said:

Must have been a SCSI drive. Those were pricey.

CarrieMpls said:

like horatio said, even low end macs are nice. The value is very much there for me.

Again, mac owners today never complain about macs. The growing number of mac users even on this board love their macs, and for good reason.

jami0mckay said:

BSOD said:

Yeah but all you guys that jizz on Macs every 5 seconds bitch about windows not stop and the fact of the matter is that the Mac OS has had issues too.Plus cost is a major issue for many looking at the choice. Just makes me laugh how Mac owners get all superior and then when people point out that hard drives are expensive or OS issues occur it is always "yeah but they do on PC's too".

Mac's are good but they have limitations and issues just like PC's and the bottom line is that Mac's are really

CarrieMpls said:

i guess i may be biased as i have never owned a PC.

my first home computer was a mac/apple

the computers we used in our red neck high school computer class were mac/apples

i just dont even give it a second thought, i hear friends buying PCs shiny and new and have to constantly searching for and removing viruses.
that alone would give me a friggin headache
but some of them have bought macs recently and cannot believe they have been suffering with a PC for so long.
It just shouldnt be like that.
Its like the difference between owning an american/japanese car and owning a european car.
even the low end VW is as nice or nicer than a high end american car.
its better fitted and finished, ease of use and practicality.
And now there isnt much that mac cant do that is PC specific, and with much more ease.

BSOD said:

I have no doubt that people love their macs.
I’m just explaining my experience and why I don’t think they’re worth what you have to pay for them considering the alternative.
But I’m that way about money. I would never in a million years buy a brand new car cause it depreciates so greatly in value simply for driving it off the lot. It’s just not a good value for what you’re paying.
But if you’re the kind of person who likes that kinda thing, then great for you.

mdiver said:

It cost several hundred bucks for new version of Windows OSs.
And the cost of sending a laptop to a pc tech aren't cheap either. And PC owners always have to do that. Always.

The only reason my PCs ran relatively smoothly and were low cost was that I knew how to support and build them. I can't imagine being in Carrie's position and owning the PCs I owned. It would be costly.

You can indeed get cheap PCs. I don't know if I'd call that 'value' though

Most of the mac owners here who , from what I can tell , love their macs were driven away from PCS. I doubt many of them are lifetime mac users. I certainly am not.

I mean, 400 bucks for the office suite, 200-300 for the OS, 100 a year for the anti-virus.... these things add up if unless you can torrent them.

I'm not saying mac's arent' pricey. But the idea the value is not there is silly to a mac owner. It's the best computer purchase I've ever made.

CarrieMpls said:

You're experience is wrong, and you should have experienced it differently.
Now your stuck with a PC.
I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say.

Buy a refurbed Mac from Apple. They're under full warranty, and from my experience, will be defect free out of the box.

Cost-wise, the so-called "Apple Tax" is actually a slight premium for better R&D, more reliable vendors, longer lasting hard drives, faster hardware/OS interactivity, & better plug and play connectivity.

You'll literally save hundreds of dollars, hundreds of Mbs of space and hundreds of hours of precious time by not having to run Anti-Malware software. When a Mac trojan is found in the wild (which is quite rare), it is almost always immediately fixed via an update. In 22 years of running Macs, I have never had a single Malware issue. I've been using PCs for just as long, I'm not even going to go there.

Installs are as easy as they could ever be. Uninstalls are as simple as dragging the app to the trash.

Your FAT32 formatted external Hard Drives will plug into your new Mac and be available in seconds.

Peripheral drivers are a non-issue.

Plus, An Intel chip Mac is a Microsoft OS bootable machine. Your current PC software will install and work on the Mac using the Bootcamp interface provided with all new Macs.

Mac obsolescence is generally less an issue than a Wintel machine of comparable speed. So, you may end up keeping the Mac longer, thus saving money.

BSOD said:

That...and the fact that it fits in your

mdiver said:

Get a Tablet PC. That way you can work with a graphic pen directly on the screen.

mdiver said:

I conced macs are really gay.

But gays are superior, and make a great ANALogy to the pc/mac issue.


A PC is a straight man. He's strapping, handsome, and covered with desirable amounts of body hair. But he eats too much steak, doesn't discriminate on who he sleeps with, and eventually it takes its toll. He burst with a beer belly, a bad haircut, and dreadful shirt/pant combinations.

A Mac is a gay man. He's consumes a steady diet of tofu and veggies, is constantly looking for new and innovative haircuts (which the straight man always tries to copy but fails miserably at), and only sleeps with other gay men, who are normally sexy as hell.

Anyone can see, even though the gay man's shoes cost a bit more than the straight man's, but who wants to date a guy in painters pants wearing crocs?

mdiver said:

this was my first mac:

Bottom line.....from someone who uses both platforms.
There is no comparision between a Mac and a PC. NONE.
The Mac is better is EVERY way that counts.

BSOD said:

fact:

Artists use macs

photographers

musicians

video editors

web designers

architects

interior designers

PC's are for people who calculate numbers and symbols

Cuddles said:

i use my PC for writing. got word? ok. i'm happy.

Anxiety said:

Graycap23 said:

Bottom line from someone that integrates large networks, if you are a loner get a mac, if you want interoperability ....don't

Graycap, the Mac is better in every way that matters to YOU. That is not the same for everyone.

mdiver said:

What networks managers always fail to realize is a true inter operational business model should be built on Linux with Novell zenworks running on it, which supports macs, pcs, linux, unix, and PDAs seemlessly.

The current 'inter operational' Microsoft/Citrix/solutions is a joke.

BSOD said:

Exactly right.....