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Reply #30 posted 02/20/09 9:04pm

missmad

MRGee said:

Music, Videos, Prince,Movies.....EXERCISE.....WATER.....Water.....Water...Comedy flicks....Craig Fergason....Pets.....Things that make you SMILE...



yea always have a bottle or 2 with me at all times, looooove movies 2!!!!! And Music!!!!!

will have to get on top of that exercise one!
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Reply #31 posted 02/20/09 9:04pm

missmad

ZombieKitten said:

Lammastide said:


I was really interested to find out recently that seasonal affective disorder can be caused in various people for either a lack or overabundance of sunlight.

Opposite what most of us know, some sufferers thrive in darker months, but find sunlit months excruciating.


I never knew that!



me neither
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Reply #32 posted 02/20/09 9:08pm

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To your question, missmad...

It's a tough one, and while treatment is a science, in some ways it's as much an art. A good psychiatrist can prescribe meds with a certain sensitivity to your ambivalence to them. But please don't automatically look at the meds as a "bad" thing. Administered well, they can be a great help... especially in combination with consistent talking therapy.

Still, though, other aspects of your depression and/or anxiety will be best managed by your own behaviors. As others have said, try -- even when you feel too down to do it -- to get outside, do stimulating things, be with friends and loved ones, enjoy uplifting music, books and film. Journal. Draw. Pray. Eat right. Exercise. Sleep properly (i.e. enough and not too much). Quit reading depressing shit online about suicidal models and Rihanna getting beat up. no no no! And this may sounds stupid, but sometimes smile or laugh... at absolutely nothing! (I recommend you do this when you're alone. lurking) You can actually sometimes "psych" your brain into a gradually different mood. smile

You may be surprised at how these things can lift you!

Be well and feel free to drop me an orgnote. I deal with this sort of thing, too. hug
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #33 posted 02/20/09 9:16pm

missmad

Lammastide said:

To your question, missmad...

It's a tough one, and while treatment is a science, in some ways it's as much an art. A good psychiatrist can prescribe meds with a certain sensitivity to your ambivalence to them. But please don't automatically look at the meds as a "bad" thing. Administered well, they can be a great help... especially in combination with consistent talking therapy.

Still, though, other aspects of your depression and/or anxiety will be best managed by your own behaviors. As others have said, try -- even when you feel too down to do it -- to get outside, do stimulating things, be with friends and loved ones, enjoy uplifting music, books, film. Journal. Write. Draw. Pray. Eat right. Exercise. Sleep properly (i.e. enough and not too much). And this may sounds stupid, but sometimes smile or laugh... at absolutely nothing! (I recommend you do this when you're alone. lurking) You can actually sometimes "psych" your brain into a gradually different mood. smile

You may be surprised at how these things can lift you!

Be well. hug



Ill look into that.

will do, sleep is also a problem sometimes. LOL @ Quit reading depressing shit online about suicidal models and Rihanna getting beat up. no no no!

so cute, but i get ur point u kinda make ur mood by reading that.

"this may sounds stupid, but sometimes smile or laugh... at absolutely nothing! (I recommend you do this when you're alone. lurking) You can actually sometimes "psych" your brain into a gradually different mood. smile"

doing that now actually, kinda forcing myself into laughing and make my brain think of something actually worth laughing about. .
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Reply #34 posted 02/21/09 2:54am

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marijuana cures my anxiety. I'm not trying to be funny either, it truly is the best medicine I've found for ME. Xanax, ativan, and those things have too many side effects and they don't calm me down, they just put me to sleep.


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Reply #35 posted 02/21/09 3:30am

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For me, it has always taken a few different things. Three and a half yrs ago when I had to go on meds to be able to get through a tough time in my life, I also did therapy. I did not want to just rely on the meds and since the meds take time to kick in , I needed something else. Therapy and journaling helped. Exercise helped a lot too.
Try not to beat yourself up too much about how you feel right now. Give yourself encouragement that you can get through it.
It will take some time. I have always suffered with anxiety and depression and have come to terms with the fact that I probably always will. I was luckily enough to go off the meds and have been off for three years but it is still a challenge for me and I still have times when I struggle.
So I have to find ways to deal with it.
Find things you enjoy and reach out and get help. Know that you are not alone and you can find ways to manage it over time.

rose
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Reply #36 posted 02/21/09 5:08am

benni

missmad said:

have been seeing a psychologistfor a bit. i "lived via" the anxiety on thursday , so yay but then went out with a pal for dinner at a place ive been 2 b4 last night, and couldn't take it. we moved seats and i started balling so we left.

i felt everyone was looking at me and i hate that.can't take it!

how the freak do yall cope with/without meds.

I am not a fan of meds btw.


love M


Several years ago I mentioned to a clinical social worker friend that I hated going out into the public because I always felt like everyone was staring at me, that I was always so self-conscious. She knew I was struggling with low esteem at the time and said:

"How wonderful! You're cured! You no longer have low self-esteem."

I asked her what she meant.

She said, "Just how wonderful that you are so self-assured to think everyone has nothing better to do, no issues, no concerns of their own, nothing of any other importance to them, that all they have to do is stare at you! How wonderful that you are so important to everyone in public that the most important thing to them is to stare at you. It's amazing! I don't think I know of anyone else in history (someone who's not a star or public figure) who has ever gone out into the public and had everyone just stare at them. Wow, can I get your autograph?"

LOL - it really put things into perspective.

Some techniques to use in helping with anxiety that are non-medicative, is to use visualization techniques and also to practice Present Moment meditative techniques.

Visualization: Visualize yourself somewhere that you feel at great peace when you are there. Picture all elements of this place, smell, sound, sight, feel, even taste. Visualize this place when you first begin to feel yourself getting anxious. I use this technique with my patients that suffer with anxiety and it really helps them. If you have a friend with you, explain to them your problem with anxiety and ask them to help you by learning to recognize the signs when you are starting to feel anxious and remind you of your visualization practice and to understand that when you are with them in public, that this is a serious problem for you and that you want to enjoy your time with them, but that you may need to take a few minutes from time to time to do this so that you can continue your outing without all of the anxiety.

Present Moment Meditation: This is another technique that I use with my patients (I'm a hospice social worker). When you feel yourself getting anxious, take note of exactly what is occuring in that moment. For instance, in this moment, I can feel the chair against me that I am sitting on. I can hear the sound of the keys tapping as I am typing this message and how they feel beneath my fingers as I strike them. I can see the picture on the screen and the words appearing as I type them. I can hear the sound of the furnace and the heat of the air from the vent above me. I can feel my lungs expanding as I inhale, feel them decreasing as I exhale. I can feel the coolness of the water as I take a drink, the feel of the glass in my hand. Whatever it is you are doing in this moment exactly, be aware of all of the sensations. There are no thoughts, nothing else going on in this moment. There is nothing that is going to happen, because the only that can happen is exactly what is occurring right in this moment. There is absolutely nothing that will happen to you, as you are happening right now, not in a future place/time. Right now.

It takes practice to do use these two techniques and I really recommend practicing them before the anxiety takes place so that they are well-established.

Other than that, hopefully your psychologist is helping you to get to the core of what is causing the depression/anxiety and assisting you in working through that.

Oh one other thing, be aware of your breath. If you've ever noticed when you become anxious your breathing becomes more rapid. Take slow, deep breaths. The slower we breath, the more calm we are. The faster we breath, the more anxious we become. So be conscious of your breath. When you feel the anxiety beginning, notice that your breathing rate increases to match your anxiety. If you can consciously slow down your breathing, taking deeper, slower breaths, the calmer you will feel.
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Reply #37 posted 02/21/09 5:32am

lascantas

missmad said:

have been seeing a psychologistfor a bit. i "lived via" the anxiety on thursday , so yay but then went out with a pal for dinner at a place ive been 2 b4 last night, and couldn't take it. we moved seats and i started balling so we left.

i felt everyone was looking at me and i hate that.can't take it!

how the freak do yall cope with/without meds.

I am not a fan of meds btw.


love M


Exercise and keeping busy. This way, I do not get into the "cycle" of being anxious. I am also religious, so sometimes.. I just say.. well..not to worry about things I cannot control. I just try to live very much in the moment, letting the past go.. but still learning from my mistakes yet not beating myself up too much about them, also not dwelling too much on the future but at the same time.. having plans.. you know little goals in the quest of big goals.

I also try to be humble.. and.. give people the benefit of the doubt as much as I can. I accept we all make mistakes.. so.. this is the nature of relationships. I do not think I am perfect, so I do not expect my friends and family to be perfect either. I try very had to look at life from another person's perspective.

I forgot to mention, at the same time, I DO cut my losses. At one point.. if someone or something is grating on my self-esteem I just move-on. I try not to judge though, but more to say..is just not working out more like maybe a personality conflict or agreeing to disagree. I also try to "forgive," but I do not forget, you know? And I also try to see where I contributed to the problem, but I do move-on still trying to learn from my own mistakes. This is the only thing I can control, you know?

I think we can control our destiny to a certain extent, but at the same time.. sometimes stuff whether this be perceived success or failure just happens. It's all in the way we respond.. this is what we can control. We have to keep trying. This is where religion helps me so much. But I don't think one necessarily has to be religious to have hope. We have to have faith though.. and I'll leave where a person finds his/her faith to him/her. I believe having faith in oneself is having faith in God because God is in all of us. Of course others have different views, too.

Oh.. there is a book, A Guide to Rational Living, which is very good. I have read this book. It was difficult for me, but I read it.

All of this said, if one needs medication, there is no shame in taking meds for a disorder. Sometimes depression can be caused by a chemical imbalance. Also for sure if one is depressed there is no shame in going to seek help. Why not?
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Reply #38 posted 02/21/09 7:01am

Ace

flowers7 said:

Wise idea not to drink...Eat well stay away from sugar and caffine. Pasta's are calming. Take walks, exercise...sleeping at least 8 hours a night...Being creative is very good...refinish a piece of furniture, paint a pretty picture. Breath fully here's a breathing exercise breath in through your mouth slowly counting to ten...hold to the count of ten slowly...then breath out through your mouth slowly to the count of ten. Most important is to think of positive happy things. hug and honey who cares if people are looking let em look nod

Lotsa good stuff here.

missmad said:

people looking at me is where the anxiety comes from, being in crowds.

You know what? Everybody checks everybody else out. But they're not focusing on you (unless they wanna get in your pants, that is boff). Tell yourself this: "Everyone's wrapped up in their own shit; they really couldn't care less about what I'm doing. lol" I told myself this when I felt self-conscious and it's true. And if someone is staring and/or focused on you, just ignore 'em and think, "Let 'em stare; like I give a fuck!". lol

hokie said:

First of all I'm sorry you're dealing with this. It is a REAL medical condition and I hope that you get some relief soon. hug

I don't want to take the thread off topic, but I don't understand why some people are so anti meds. Hell, we're all anti meds to a certain extent. But, would you not take a medication that you needed for a heart condition? If you didn't take it and couldn't function would you still not take it? These "mental" conditions are just as much a problem as any other medical problem and I hate to see the meds get such a bad rap. They really can be extremely beneficial if used properly.

yeahthat

minneapolisFunq said:

create a phrase or saying and repeat it in your head

This is the first step in Guru Pitka's D.R.A.M.A. method ("Distraction"). nod Some anxiety experts call it "thought-stopping" (i.e. consciously making your mind focus on another topic).

missmad said:

i saw my mom on meds for a while and she got so addicted 2 them

"Benzos" are highly addictive; SSRIs are not. Zoloft is a good one for a lot of people.


Anxiety said:

do you think it could be a seasonal affective problem?

No, this is Panic Disorder.


INSATIABLE said:

Were they depression/anxiety meds? Just like most others, your body needs to be weaned off them slowly.

nod

I mean, my mother has severe anxiety problems. I used to have to drive her to work when we worked together in my early twenties. She's gone cold turkey off anxiety medication a few times and it's a serious, potentially fatal thing to do.

Yeah, you're never supposed to go cold turkey off these things!


- Get outside as much as possible. Get sunlight, smile, realize how hilarious, overwhelming, and pointless it all is.
- Kids, animals, family.

yeahthat


ZombieKitten said:

missmad said:




im free. lol. c u then.


in my diary wave

Take pics!


missmad said:

i can't wait for the day when someone says lets go here and i say ok without the drama of the anxiety coming up and freakin out 4 days b4hand.

"Anticipatory anxiety". And that day will come sooner than you think!


Lammastide said:

please don't automatically look at the meds as a "bad" thing. Administered well, they can be a great help... especially in combination with consistent talking therapy.

yeahthat

sometimes smile or laugh... at absolutely nothing!

yeahthat

JerseyKRS said:

marijuana cures my anxiety. I'm not trying to be funny either, it truly is the best medicine I've found for ME.

Jers, you're like one My Favourite Guys Ever, but this is bad, bad advice. disbelief

benni said:

Several years ago I mentioned to a clinical social worker friend that I hated going out into the public because I always felt like everyone was staring at me, that I was always so self-conscious. She knew I was struggling with low esteem at the time and said:

"How wonderful! You're cured! You no longer have low self-esteem."

I asked her what she meant.

She said, "Just how wonderful that you are so self-assured to think everyone has nothing better to do, no issues, no concerns of their own, nothing of any other importance to them, that all they have to do is stare at you! How wonderful that you are so important to everyone in public that the most important thing to them is to stare at you. It's amazing! I don't think I know of anyone else in history (someone who's not a star or public figure) who has ever gone out into the public and had everyone just stare at them. Wow, can I get your autograph?"

LOL - it really put things into perspective.

Exactly. lol

Some techniques to use in helping with anxiety that are non-medicative, is to use visualization techniques and also to practice Present Moment meditative techniques.

Visualization: Visualize yourself somewhere that you feel at great peace when you are there. Picture all elements of this place, smell, sound, sight, feel, even taste. Visualize this place when you first begin to feel yourself getting anxious. I use this technique with my patients that suffer with anxiety and it really helps them. If you have a friend with you, explain to them your problem with anxiety and ask them to help you by learning to recognize the signs when you are starting to feel anxious and remind you of your visualization practice and to understand that when you are with them in public, that this is a serious problem for you and that you want to enjoy your time with them, but that you may need to take a few minutes from time to time to do this so that you can continue your outing without all of the anxiety.

Present Moment Meditation: This is another technique that I use with my patients (I'm a hospice social worker). When you feel yourself getting anxious, take note of exactly what is occuring in that moment. For instance, in this moment, I can feel the chair against me that I am sitting on. I can hear the sound of the keys tapping as I am typing this message and how they feel beneath my fingers as I strike them. I can see the picture on the screen and the words appearing as I type them. I can hear the sound of the furnace and the heat of the air from the vent above me. I can feel my lungs expanding as I inhale, feel them decreasing as I exhale. I can feel the coolness of the water as I take a drink, the feel of the glass in my hand. Whatever it is you are doing in this moment exactly, be aware of all of the sensations. There are no thoughts, nothing else going on in this moment. There is nothing that is going to happen, because the only that can happen is exactly what is occurring right in this moment. There is absolutely nothing that will happen to you, as you are happening right now, not in a future place/time. Right now.

It takes practice to do use these two techniques and I really recommend practicing them before the anxiety takes place so that they are well-established.

Good advice.

Oh one other thing, be aware of your breath. If you've ever noticed when you become anxious your breathing becomes more rapid. Take slow, deep breaths. The slower we breath, the more calm we are. The faster we breath, the more anxious we become. So be conscious of your breath. When you feel the anxiety beginning, notice that your breathing rate increases to match your anxiety. If you can consciously slow down your breathing, taking deeper, slower breaths, the calmer you will feel.

nod

lascantas said:

Exercise and keeping busy.

nod

I just try to live very much in the moment, letting the past go.. but still learning from my mistakes yet not beating myself up too much about them, also not dwelling too much on the future but at the same time.. having plans.. you know little goals in the quest of big goals.

nod

It's all in the way we respond.. this is what we can control.

nod
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Reply #39 posted 02/21/09 7:24am

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Ace said:

JerseyKRS said:



marijuana cures my anxiety. I'm not trying to be funny either, it truly is the best medicine I've found for ME.


Jers, you're like one My Favourite Guys Ever, but this is bad, bad advice. disbelief


To be fair, he didn't advise it. He just answered the question "How do you cope?" It helps him cope. shrug

razz

About ten years ago, I found myself dealing with serious social anxiety. I was irrationally afraid that everyone was staring at me, and it caused me great anxiety in public and social situations. I started taking Paxil along with talk therapy, and it helped a great deal. I don't take it anymore, but it was extremely helpful in getting over my irrational fears.
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Reply #40 posted 02/21/09 7:31am

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It's funny, marijuana makes me more socially awkward if anything. lol I become way too talkative, which makes me talk more to try and make myself more clear, and...yeah, it's just bad. lol
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Reply #41 posted 02/21/09 7:52am

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Ace said:



Jers, you're like one My Favourite Guys Ever, but this is bad, bad advice. disbelief






We will have to agree to disagree. hug
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Reply #42 posted 02/21/09 8:05am

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I've dealt with anxiety for as long as I can remember. I had depressive symptoms too and used to take paxil and then celexa, I was having irrational fears too, but those fears are gone now. I still suffer from anxiety and depressive moments, but I know how to pick myself up again and stay strong, I think.
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Reply #43 posted 02/21/09 8:11am

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hokie said:

First of all I'm sorry you're dealing with this. It is a REAL medical condition and I hope that you get some relief soon. hug

I don't want to take the thread off topic, but I don't understand why some people are so anti meds. Hell, we're all anti meds to a certain extent. But, would you not take a medication that you needed for a heart condition? If you didn't take it and couldn't function would you still not take it? These "mental" conditions are just as much a problem as any other medical problem and I hate to see the meds get such a bad rap. They really can be extremely beneficial if used properly.



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Reply #44 posted 02/21/09 10:18am

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meds and pych therapy are your friends and you shouldnt be ashamed of using them
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Reply #46 posted 02/21/09 8:05pm

missmad

shanti0608 said:

For me, it has always taken a few different things. Three and a half yrs ago when I had to go on meds to be able to get through a tough time in my life, I also did therapy. I did not want to just rely on the meds and since the meds take time to kick in , I needed something else. Therapy and journaling helped. Exercise helped a lot too.
Try not to beat yourself up too much about how you feel right now. Give yourself encouragement that you can get through it.
It will take some time. I have always suffered with anxiety and depression and have come to terms with the fact that I probably always will. I was luckily enough to go off the meds and have been off for three years but it is still a challenge for me and I still have times when I struggle.
So I have to find ways to deal with it.
Find things you enjoy and reach out and get help. Know that you are not alone and you can find ways to manage it over time.

rose



thanks hun, i don't really journal as such but i do write poems when inspiration hits.

love M
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Reply #47 posted 02/21/09 8:09pm

missmad

benni said:

missmad said:

have been seeing a psychologistfor a bit. i "lived via" the anxiety on thursday , so yay but then went out with a pal for dinner at a place ive been 2 b4 last night, and couldn't take it. we moved seats and i started balling so we left.

i felt everyone was looking at me and i hate that.can't take it!

how the freak do yall cope with/without meds.

I am not a fan of meds btw.


love M


Several years ago I mentioned to a clinical social worker friend that I hated going out into the public because I always felt like everyone was staring at me, that I was always so self-conscious. She knew I was struggling with low esteem at the time and said:

"How wonderful! You're cured! You no longer have low self-esteem."

I asked her what she meant.

She said, "Just how wonderful that you are so self-assured to think everyone has nothing better to do, no issues, no concerns of their own, nothing of any other importance to them, that all they have to do is stare at you! How wonderful that you are so important to everyone in public that the most important thing to them is to stare at you. It's amazing! I don't think I know of anyone else in history (someone who's not a star or public figure) who has ever gone out into the public and had everyone just stare at them. Wow, can I get your autograph?"

LOL - it really put things into perspective.


Some techniques to use in helping with anxiety that are non-medicative, is to use visualization techniques and also to practice Present Moment meditative techniques.

Visualization: Visualize yourself somewhere that you feel at great peace when you are there. Picture all elements of this place, smell, sound, sight, feel, even taste. Visualize this place when you first begin to feel yourself getting anxious. I use this technique with my patients that suffer with anxiety and it really helps them. If you have a friend with you, explain to them your problem with anxiety and ask them to help you by learning to recognize the signs when you are starting to feel anxious and remind you of your visualization practice and to understand that when you are with them in public, that this is a serious problem for you and that you want to enjoy your time with them, but that you may need to take a few minutes from time to time to do this so that you can continue your outing without all of the anxiety.

Present Moment Meditation: This is another technique that I use with my patients (I'm a hospice social worker). When you feel yourself getting anxious, take note of exactly what is occuring in that moment. For instance, in this moment, I can feel the chair against me that I am sitting on. I can hear the sound of the keys tapping as I am typing this message and how they feel beneath my fingers as I strike them. I can see the picture on the screen and the words appearing as I type them. I can hear the sound of the furnace and the heat of the air from the vent above me. I can feel my lungs expanding as I inhale, feel them decreasing as I exhale. I can feel the coolness of the water as I take a drink, the feel of the glass in my hand. Whatever it is you are doing in this moment exactly, be aware of all of the sensations. There are no thoughts, nothing else going on in this moment. There is nothing that is going to happen, because the only that can happen is exactly what is occurring right in this moment. There is absolutely nothing that will happen to you, as you are happening right now, not in a future place/time. Right now.

It takes practice to do use these two techniques and I really recommend practicing them before the anxiety takes place so that they are well-established.

Other than that, hopefully your psychologist is helping you to get to the core of what is causing the depression/anxiety and assisting you in working through that.

Oh one other thing, be aware of your breath. If you've ever noticed when you become anxious your breathing becomes more rapid. Take slow, deep breaths. The slower we breath, the more calm we are. The faster we breath, the more anxious we become. So be conscious of your breath. When you feel the anxiety beginning, notice that your breathing rate increases to match your anxiety. If you can consciously slow down your breathing, taking deeper, slower breaths, the calmer you will feel.
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Ill bet that put things into perspective. i gotta try that!

I looove visualization - esp the water, sea ocean, lake etc etc and i carry pics in my bag.

Ill try the PMM 2.

it does become more crazy yea. i try but the anxiety takes ova.
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missmad

Cinnie said:

Art




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Reply #49 posted 02/21/09 8:11pm

missmad

xlr8r said:

meds and pych therapy are your friends and you shouldnt be ashamed of using them



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Reply #50 posted 02/21/09 8:12pm

missmad

lascantas said:

missmad said:

have been seeing a psychologistfor a bit. i "lived via" the anxiety on thursday , so yay but then went out with a pal for dinner at a place ive been 2 b4 last night, and couldn't take it. we moved seats and i started balling so we left.

i felt everyone was looking at me and i hate that.can't take it!

how the freak do yall cope with/without meds.

I am not a fan of meds btw.


love M


Exercise and keeping busy. This way, I do not get into the "cycle" of being anxious. I am also religious, so sometimes.. I just say.. well..not to worry about things I cannot control. I just try to live very much in the moment, letting the past go.. but still learning from my mistakes yet not beating myself up too much about them, also not dwelling too much on the future but at the same time.. having plans.. you know little goals in the quest of big goals.

I also try to be humble.. and.. give people the benefit of the doubt as much as I can. I accept we all make mistakes.. so.. this is the nature of relationships. I do not think I am perfect, so I do not expect my friends and family to be perfect either. I try very had to look at life from another person's perspective.

I forgot to mention, at the same time, I DO cut my losses. At one point.. if someone or something is grating on my self-esteem I just move-on. I try not to judge though, but more to say..is just not working out more like maybe a personality conflict or agreeing to disagree. I also try to "forgive," but I do not forget, you know? And I also try to see where I contributed to the problem, but I do move-on still trying to learn from my own mistakes. This is the only thing I can control, you know?

I think we can control our destiny to a certain extent, but at the same time.. sometimes stuff whether this be perceived success or failure just happens. It's all in the way we respond.. this is what we can control. We have to keep trying. This is where religion helps me so much. But I don't think one necessarily has to be religious to have hope. We have to have faith though.. and I'll leave where a person finds his/her faith to him/her. I believe having faith in oneself is having faith in God because God is in all of us. Of course others have different views, too.

Oh.. there is a book, A Guide to Rational Living, which is very good. I have read this book. It was difficult for me, but I read it.

All of this said, if one needs medication, there is no shame in taking meds for a disorder. Sometimes depression can be caused by a chemical imbalance. Also for sure if one is depressed there is no shame in going to seek help. Why not?
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thanks 4 this and yea I know! Love the keep busy thing!
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Reply #51 posted 02/21/09 8:20pm

missmad

Ace said:

flowers7 said:

Wise idea not to drink...Eat well stay away from sugar and caffine. Pasta's are calming. Take walks, exercise...sleeping at least 8 hours a night...Being creative is very good...refinish a piece of furniture, paint a pretty picture. Breath fully here's a breathing exercise breath in through your mouth slowly counting to ten...hold to the count of ten slowly...then breath out through your mouth slowly to the count of ten. Most important is to think of positive happy things. hug and honey who cares if people are looking let em look nod

Lotsa good stuff here.


nod

It's all in the way we respond.. this is what we can control.

nod



thanks 4 this hun
Yea i make my mind o\focus on other things, a poster the tv if they have one around, drinking my water, a book.


Will take pics hun!!!!!

I cannot wait for that day!!!!! It betta but is directly proportional to the work i put into it!

like that laugh/ smile at nothing!

Yea no marijuana, not 4 me but thanks Jers. It helps a lot of people with their pain, great 4 them but not 4 me!
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Reply #52 posted 02/21/09 8:21pm

missmad

FunkMistress said:

Ace said:



Jers, you're like one My Favourite Guys Ever, but this is bad, bad advice. disbelief


To be fair, he didn't advise it. He just answered the question "How do you cope?" It helps him cope. shrug

razz

About ten years ago, I found myself dealing with serious social anxiety. I was irrationally afraid that everyone was staring at me, and it caused me great anxiety in public and social situations. I started taking Paxil along with talk therapy, and it helped a great deal. I don't take it anymore, but it was extremely helpful in getting over my irrational fears.



smile thanks sweets
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Reply #53 posted 02/21/09 8:22pm

missmad

alphastreet said:

I've dealt with anxiety for as long as I can remember. I had depressive symptoms too and used to take paxil and then celexa, I was having irrational fears too, but those fears are gone now. I still suffer from anxiety and depressive moments, but I know how to pick myself up again and stay strong, I think.



glad the fears are gone. YAY!!!!! well done hun!!!!! smile
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Reply #54 posted 02/21/09 8:22pm

missmad

MoniGram said:

hokie said:

First of all I'm sorry you're dealing with this. It is a REAL medical condition and I hope that you get some relief soon. hug

I don't want to take the thread off topic, but I don't understand why some people are so anti meds. Hell, we're all anti meds to a certain extent. But, would you not take a medication that you needed for a heart condition? If you didn't take it and couldn't function would you still not take it? These "mental" conditions are just as much a problem as any other medical problem and I hate to see the meds get such a bad rap. They really can be extremely beneficial if used properly.



nod



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Reply #55 posted 02/21/09 9:20pm

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missmad said:

have been seeing a psychologistfor a bit. i "lived via" the anxiety on thursday , so yay but then went out with a pal for dinner at a place ive been 2 b4 last night, and couldn't take it. we moved seats and i started balling so we left.

i felt everyone was looking at me and i hate that.can't take it!

how the freak do yall cope with/without meds.

I am not a fan of meds btw.


love M


hug

love and support from family and friends
good music
lots of GOOD sex, or another good cardio activity
Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize
u simply imagined this
So u lean over and give her a kiss
Here on earth, here on earth,
with u it's not so bad
Here on earth, here on earth
eye don't feel so sad
Stay right here
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Reply #56 posted 02/21/09 9:39pm

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marijuana cures my anxiety. I'm not trying to be funny either, it truly is the best medicine I've found for ME. Xanax, ativan, and those things have too many side effects and they don't calm me down, they just put me to sleep.

Xanax had me curled up in the corner of a closet scared of what i might do shake a great book 4 panic anxiety is by bev aisbett called living with it. Written by a 'survivor' its easy to follow and makes a whole lot of sense during attacks as well as good days. Its readily available in oz book shops or u can order hug im anti tranquillizers ill but anti depressants do work 4 me. Im never ashamed to say i need help. Having an understanding dr can really help as well. Good luck mihad rose
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #57 posted 02/21/09 10:38pm

alphastreet

missmad said:

alphastreet said:

I've dealt with anxiety for as long as I can remember. I had depressive symptoms too and used to take paxil and then celexa, I was having irrational fears too, but those fears are gone now. I still suffer from anxiety and depressive moments, but I know how to pick myself up again and stay strong, I think.



glad the fears are gone. YAY!!!!! well done hun!!!!! smile


I still do deal with fears and anxiety, but it's all situational. Work really makes me anxious, getting their makes me anxious, but I do realize it's cause my job is still very new and I'm not an expert yet and I need to work on confidence now more than ever.
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Reply #58 posted 02/22/09 2:31am

missmad

prb said:

JerseyKRS said:

marijuana cures my anxiety. I'm not trying to be funny either, it truly is the best medicine I've found for ME. Xanax, ativan, and those things have too many side effects and they don't calm me down, they just put me to sleep.

Xanax had me curled up in the corner of a closet scared of what i might do shake a great book 4 panic anxiety is by bev aisbett called living with it. Written by a 'survivor' its easy to follow and makes a whole lot of sense during attacks as well as good days. Its readily available in oz book shops or u can order hug im anti tranquillizers ill but anti depressants do work 4 me. Im never ashamed to say i need help. Having an understanding dr can really help as well. Good luck mihad rose



thanks sweets smile
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Reply #59 posted 02/22/09 2:56am

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missmad said:

have been seeing a psychologistfor a bit. i "lived via" the anxiety on thursday , so yay but then went out with a pal for dinner at a place ive been 2 b4 last night, and couldn't take it. we moved seats and i started balling so we left.

i felt everyone was looking at me and i hate that.can't take it!

how the freak do yall cope with/without meds.

I am not a fan of meds btw.


love M


a combination of tai chi and kickbocking to work on both passive and agressive (can we say bi-polar lol ) aspects of my personality.

a healthy dose of beliefnet.com and meditative broadcasts from live365.com to keep myself calm and centered heart
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