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roberto alomar has AIDS

$15M Lawsuit claims ex-Met Roberto Alomar had sex knowing he had AIDS
BY John Marzulli and Tracy Connor
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Wednesday, February 11th 2009, 9:38 AM


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Seems like a long time now since Robert Alomar's days with the Mets. He's now making headlines for a surprising lawsuit.


Baseball great Roberto Alomar has full-blown AIDS but insisted on having unprotected sex, his ex-girlfriend charged Tuesday in a bombshell lawsuit.

The shocking claim was leveled by Ilya Dall, 31, who said she lived with the ex-Met for three years and watched in horror as his health worsened.

In papers filed in state and federal court, Dall said Alomar finally got tested in January 2006 while suffering from a cough, fatigue and shingles.

"The test results of him being HIV-positive was given to him and the plaintiff on or about Feb.6, 2006," the $15 million negligence suit says.

Nine days later, the couple went to see a disease specialist who discovered a mass in the retired second baseman's chest, the court papers say.

Alomar's skin had turned purple, he was foaming at the mouth and a spinal tap "showed he had full-blown AIDS," the suit says.

Alomar, 41, who quit baseball over health issues in 2005, could not be reached for comment.

His lawyer, Charles Bach, would not say whether Alomar is HIV-positive. "We believe this is a totally frivolous lawsuit. These allegations are baseless," Bach said. "He's healthy and would like to keep his health status private. We'll do our talking in court."

Alomar's father, Mets bench coach Sandy Alomar, said the claims were news to him. "That's the first time we ever heard of that," he said from Puerto Rico.

He didn't think his son could keep a serious illness secret. "I imagine I would know," he said.

Dall, a mother of two who has run a massage spa in Queens, would not discuss the suit.

"I have no comment," she said outside her lavish home in Whitestone, Queens, after getting out of a black Cadillac Escalade.

She referred inquiries to her lawyer, Anthony Piacentini, who declined to comment.

The suit was filed Jan. 30 in Queens Supreme Court. Alomar had it transferred to Brooklyn Federal Court Tuesday.

The court papers outline the couple's relationship, starting in 2002. A month after they began dating, Alomar convinced Dall to have unprotected sex and assured her he was disease-free, the suit alleges.

In 2004, Dall says she noticed cold sores in his mouth. In 2005, after a physical exam ordered by the Tampa Bay Rays, he was diagnosed with thrombocytopenia purpura, a blood disorder sometimes linked to HIV, she claims.

The doctor told him to have an HIV test and he refused, she says, stating he had been tested and was AIDS-free.

In April 2005, Alomar told Dall he was suffering from erectile dysfunction and confided "he was raped by two Mexican men after playing a ballgame in New Mexico or a Southwestern state when he was 17," the suit says.

It goes on to say that around the same time Alomar developed a persistent cough and was bedridden with extreme fatigue.

He developed thrush, a yeast infection, and was told by a doctor to take an HIV test - but refused, Dall claims.

"I don't have HIV," he told her repeatedly, the suit charges.

A few months later, the couple moved to Cleveland, where Alomar supposedly tested positive. Dall claims that after she learned Alomar had AIDS, she tested negative and no longer had unprotected sex with him.

They broke up last October.

She is demanding at least $15 million in punitive damages, claiming Alomar caused her emotional distress and exposed her children to the virus.

"He jeopardized the health, well-being and life of the plaintiff, which caused her to have a fear of contracting AIDS, often referred to as AIDS phobia," the suit says.

Considered one of baseball's greatest second basemen, Alomar stirred controversy in 1996 by spitting in the face of umpire John Hirschbeck.

The incident prompted fellow ump Al Clark to say, "If I were John, I'd insist that Robbie Alomar take an AIDS test."

HIV has never been transmitted through saliva, however, and last night Hirschbeck said he had no concerns about his safety - or hard feelings from their on-field run-in.

"You're telling me something I'm shocked at," Hirschbeck said. "I wish him nothing but the best."

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Reply #1 posted 02/11/09 8:18am

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I'm not saying the guy isn't a douche.
I feel for Dall, but anyone who has sex without protection is partly responsible for any possible outcome. I'm sick of people making this the responsibility of the infected party alone. Not every one is a decent person who might tell you the truth (especially with the stigmas that come with that truth). If you lay down with someone knowing the facts of transmission, and don't DEMAND on using protection (regardless who they are (yes, even your husband) or what that person tells you) you're not a victim, you're a participant. I'm sorry.
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Reply #2 posted 02/11/09 8:19am

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Reply #3 posted 02/11/09 8:22am

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BSOD said:

HIV or full blown AIDS? confuse

HIV and AIDS are tricky labels. Generally a case is consideref AIDS if certain degree of illness is present, or if t-cells drop below 200 (I believe that's still the number they use). But you can hit that point then go on medications that greatly improve your health, make your viral load undetectable and be back up healthy and with tcells over 500. If you walked into a dr office like that, they would tell you you have HIV not AIDS.
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Reply #4 posted 02/11/09 8:34am

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johnart said:

BSOD said:

HIV or full blown AIDS? confuse

HIV and AIDS are tricky labels. Generally a case is consideref AIDS if certain degree of illness is present, or if t-cells drop below 200 (I believe that's still the number they use). But you can hit that point then go on medications that greatly improve your health, make your viral load undetectable and be back up healthy and with tcells over 500. If you walked into a dr office like that, they would tell you you have HIV not AIDS.
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It's amazing how much people are uninformed about AIDS. Just last week I was trying to tell some of my schoolmates that HIV and AIDS are different things, and that just because you get HIV doesn't mean you have AIDS.
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Reply #5 posted 02/11/09 8:36am

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Roberto used to be a Toronto Blue Jay. He was awesome back in the day.

Good luck to him.
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Reply #6 posted 02/11/09 8:37am

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Mr. Alomar was notorious for his promiscuity with women while he was playing. He wasn't raped, he just fucked women everywhere.

So, not only was he a cheater, he's also now a liar. I have zero compassion for him.


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Reply #7 posted 02/11/09 8:38am

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hmmm....she suspected as early as 2004, he supposedly tested positive in 2006, they broke up in October 2008, she files lawsuit in February 2009.


What's wrong with this picture?

Apparently back in 2004, 2006 and 2008 she did not have motional distress and he didn't exposed her children to the virus. That only happened AFTER they broke up. Now she wants $15 million.
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Reply #8 posted 02/11/09 8:45am

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Sowhat said:

hmmm....she suspected as early as 2004, he supposedly tested positive in 2006, they broke up in October 2008, she files lawsuit in February 2009.


What's wrong with this picture?

Apparently back in 2004, 2006 and 2008 she did not have motional distress and he didn't exposed her children to the virus. That only happened AFTER they broke up. Now she wants $15 million.


It sounds fucked up on both sides to me.
I'd like to know more about how she's claiming he exposed her children because there are only a number of VERY CLEAR ways to pass on the virus. And unless he was having unprotected sex with her children or bleeding into their open wounds I'm not sure why she's bringing them into the picture against him.

Again, I'm not saying this is a good guy. I know nothing of him except whats on this article.
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Reply #9 posted 02/11/09 8:49am

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JerseyKRS said:

Mr. Alomar was notorious for his promiscuity with women while he was playing. He wasn't raped, he just fucked women everywhere.

So, not only was he a cheater, he's also now a liar. I have zero compassion for him.

I wonder how many women he's infected? Regardless of her wacky motives, if what she says is true, it's obvious he wasn't forthcoming about his status. If he didn't tell her, his longtime girlfriend, you know he wasn't telling his jump offs. disbelief I tell you what though, if he and I were in a committed relationship and he knowingly exposed me to AIDS I'd seriously fuck his ass up. hammer That heffa needs to say a prayer, light a candle, and kill a rooster to give thanks that she didn't come up positive. whew
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Reply #10 posted 02/11/09 8:50am

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johnart said:

Sowhat said:

hmmm....she suspected as early as 2004, he supposedly tested positive in 2006, they broke up in October 2008, she files lawsuit in February 2009.


What's wrong with this picture?

Apparently back in 2004, 2006 and 2008 she did not have motional distress and he didn't exposed her children to the virus. That only happened AFTER they broke up. Now she wants $15 million.


It sounds fucked up on both sides to me.
I'd like to know more about how she's claiming he exposed her children because there are only a number of VERY CLEAR ways to pass on the virus. And unless he was having unprotected sex with her children or bleeding into their open wounds I'm not sure why she's bringing them into the picture against him.

Again, I'm not saying this is a good guy. I know nothing of him except whats on this article.

Maybe he's the father of the kids? hmmm
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Reply #11 posted 02/11/09 8:55am

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SCNDLS said:

JerseyKRS said:

Mr. Alomar was notorious for his promiscuity with women while he was playing. He wasn't raped, he just fucked women everywhere.

So, not only was he a cheater, he's also now a liar. I have zero compassion for him.

I wonder how many women he's infected? Regardless of her wacky motives, if what she says is true, it's obvious he wasn't forthcoming about his status. If he didn't tell her, his longtime girlfriend, you know he wasn't telling his jump offs. disbelief I tell you what though, if he and I were in a committed relationship and he knowingly exposed me to AIDS I'd seriously fuck his ass up. hammer That heffa needs to say a prayer, light a candle, and kill a rooster to give thanks that she didn't come up positive. whew
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listen, if some girl that was positive, and knowingly infected me, it'd be pretty tough to convince me not to shoot her. That's the god honest truth. nod


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Reply #12 posted 02/11/09 9:02am

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JerseyKRS said:

SCNDLS said:


I wonder how many women he's infected? Regardless of her wacky motives, if what she says is true, it's obvious he wasn't forthcoming about his status. If he didn't tell her, his longtime girlfriend, you know he wasn't telling his jump offs. disbelief I tell you what though, if he and I were in a committed relationship and he knowingly exposed me to AIDS I'd seriously fuck his ass up. hammer That heffa needs to say a prayer, light a candle, and kill a rooster to give thanks that she didn't come up positive. whew
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listen, if some girl that was positive, and knowingly infected me, it'd be pretty tough to convince me not to shoot her. That's the god honest truth. nod

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I know of TOO many wives whose husbands were fucking around and gave them AIDS. Sorry, but the disease would be the least of his worries.
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Reply #13 posted 02/11/09 9:06am

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SCNDLS said:

JerseyKRS said:




listen, if some girl that was positive, and knowingly infected me, it'd be pretty tough to convince me not to shoot her. That's the god honest truth. nod

highfive

I know of TOO many wives whose husbands were fucking around and gave them AIDS. Sorry, but the disease would be the least of his worries.


The guy is a douchebag. His great play at second base gets the headlines, but he was never a stand up guy on the field. The spitting incident made the news, but he was always a jerk on the field. Also, like I said, I've had friends in my life that have played in the minors and each one of them said he (along with some others, including Clemens) tried to fuck anything with tits in every city.

So, like I said, I wish him nothing but the worst. Hope that was worth it there buddy!


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Reply #14 posted 02/11/09 9:07am

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SCNDLS said:

johnart said:



It sounds fucked up on both sides to me.
I'd like to know more about how she's claiming he exposed her children because there are only a number of VERY CLEAR ways to pass on the virus. And unless he was having unprotected sex with her children or bleeding into their open wounds I'm not sure why she's bringing them into the picture against him.

Again, I'm not saying this is a good guy. I know nothing of him except whats on this article.

Maybe he's the father of the kids? hmmm


exclaim Good point.
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Reply #15 posted 02/11/09 9:20am

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It's 2009. Serious question.
Why do people have unprotected sex based on "he/she" said they were "clean" and then make it the other person's fault if they contract something?

A person might tell you they're negative. They might even show you a piece of paper that says they are. If they had one encounter between the time their blood was drawn ("clean") they might be picking up a Negative result while being Poz.
Or using the whole "we were in a commited relationship"...guess what, folk cheat sometimes, it's a fact of life. If you are willing to risk your health on uncertainties or romance...that's not on the person that infected you alone.

Dude might be scum, but anyone he might have infected more likely than not had the opportunity to protect themselves.
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Reply #16 posted 02/11/09 9:32am

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wow!

fucking loser
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Reply #17 posted 02/11/09 10:35am

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johnart said:

BSOD said:

HIV or full blown AIDS? confuse

HIV and AIDS are tricky labels. Generally a case is consideref AIDS if certain degree of illness is present, or if t-cells drop below 200 (I believe that's still the number they use). But you can hit that point then go on medications that greatly improve your health, make your viral load undetectable and be back up healthy and with tcells over 500. If you walked into a dr office like that, they would tell you you have HIV not AIDS.
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once you are given an AIDS Diagnosis it never goes away no matter how well you rebound. AIDS is a syndrome HIV is a virus. The critera one has to meet to get an AIDS disagnosis changes alot now with the advancement of medications. I've just skimmed the article but I can all ready spot some wrong information.
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Reply #18 posted 02/11/09 11:25am

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johnart said:

It's 2009. Serious question.
Why do people have unprotected sex based on "he/she" said they were "clean" and then make it the other person's fault if they contract something?

A person might tell you they're negative. They might even show you a piece of paper that says they are. If they had one encounter between the time their blood was drawn ("clean") they might be picking up a Negative result while being Poz.
Or using the whole "we were in a commited relationship"...guess what, folk cheat sometimes, it's a fact of life. If you are willing to risk your health on uncertainties or romance...that's not on the person that infected you alone.

Dude might be scum, but anyone he might have infected more likely than not had the opportunity to protect themselves.

So, do you expect married couples and those who believe they are in a monogamous relationship to use condoms??? hmmm
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Reply #19 posted 02/11/09 11:47am

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SCNDLS said:

johnart said:

It's 2009. Serious question.
Why do people have unprotected sex based on "he/she" said they were "clean" and then make it the other person's fault if they contract something?

A person might tell you they're negative. They might even show you a piece of paper that says they are. If they had one encounter between the time their blood was drawn ("clean") they might be picking up a Negative result while being Poz.
Or using the whole "we were in a commited relationship"...guess what, folk cheat sometimes, it's a fact of life. If you are willing to risk your health on uncertainties or romance...that's not on the person that infected you alone.

Dude might be scum, but anyone he might have infected more likely than not had the opportunity to protect themselves.

So, do you expect married couples and those who believe they are in a
monogamous relationship to use condoms??? hmmm


I would. It's unfortunate, but not everyone can be trusted as much as we'd like to, not even our partners. Unless I was actively trying to get pregnant, I never would and never have fucked with anything less than double protection. (the pill and a condom) It's just not safe.
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meow85 said:

SCNDLS said:


So, do you expect married couples and those who believe they are in a
monogamous relationship to use condoms??? hmmm


I would. It's unfortunate, but not everyone can be trusted as much as we'd like to, not even our partners. Unless I was actively trying to get pregnant, I never would and never have fucked with anything less than double protection. (the pill and a condom) It's just not safe.


I would too. It's simply the only way. No one wants to think they'd be cheated on, sure. But people cheat. shrug Condoms are the only way (if you want to have sex) to prevent the spread of STIs.
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Reply #21 posted 02/11/09 12:01pm

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If you're married, and you feel you need to use condoms, maybe you should check the health of your marriage. Just my opinion. shrug


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JerseyKRS said:

If you're married, and you feel you need to use condoms, maybe you should check the health of your marriage. Just my opinion. shrug


That SOUNDS nice and all. But who goes into marriage thinking they're going to be cheated on? And how many actually are?
There's only one way to be safe for sure.
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Reply #23 posted 02/11/09 12:08pm

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CarrieMpls said:

JerseyKRS said:

If you're married, and you feel you need to use condoms, maybe you should check the health of your marriage. Just my opinion. shrug


That SOUNDS nice and all. But who goes into marriage thinking they're going to be cheated on? And how many actually are?
There's only one way to be safe for sure.


How are married couples supposed to conceive children?
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sextonseven said:

CarrieMpls said:



That SOUNDS nice and all. But who goes into marriage thinking they're going to be cheated on? And how many actually are?
There's only one way to be safe for sure.


How are married couples supposed to conceive children?


By taking a risk. lol I'm just saying you have to recognize it's a risk, married or not.


I'm also potentially overly cynical. I've just seen too many people cheat.
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Reply #25 posted 02/11/09 12:12pm

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meow85 said:

SCNDLS said:


So, do you expect married couples and those who believe they are in a
monogamous relationship to use condoms??? hmmm


I would. It's unfortunate, but not everyone can be trusted as much as we'd like to, not even our partners. Unless I was actively trying to get pregnant, I never would and never have fucked with anything less than double protection. (the pill and a condom) It's just not safe.

I don't know if you're married or not, but would you use condoms with your husband?
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Reply #26 posted 02/11/09 12:16pm

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if my wife asked me to use one, I would think she doesn't trust me, or is cheating herself.

If you get cheated on, chalk that up to choosing a shitty partner, that's what I did with my ex. I can't see going through life not trusting your own spouse.


What the hell did you get married for then?


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Reply #27 posted 02/11/09 12:21pm

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JerseyKRS said:

if my wife asked me to use one, I would think she doesn't trust me, or is cheating herself.

If you get cheated on, chalk that up to choosing a shitty partner, that's what I did with my ex. I can't see going through life not trusting your own spouse.


What the hell did you get married for then?


But I've known really incredible people who have cheated. Amazing people. People you would never in a million years suspect they would do something like that. And yet they did.

This is just reason # 387 why I will never get married. lol I simply don't trust any man not to cheat.
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Reply #28 posted 02/11/09 12:23pm

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JerseyKRS said:

if my wife asked me to use one, I would think she doesn't trust me, or is cheating herself.

If you get cheated on, chalk that up to choosing a shitty partner, that's what I did with my ex. I can't see going through life not trusting your own spouse.


What the hell did you get married for then?

Exactly! And in my opinion 90% of the time when people cheat there were signs that the person wasn't trustworthy to begin with but people choose to ignore the signs and marry them anyway. Just like this broad in this story. Even if he refused to be tested this muthafucka was acting suspect and showing symptoms for years. She was the dumb ass that decided to ignore the warnings.
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Reply #29 posted 02/11/09 12:33pm

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"I have no comment," she said outside her lavish home in Whitestone, Queens, after getting out of a black Cadillac Escalade.


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I don't know why lol
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