meow85 said: He looks so much younger than 13, and she looks so much older than 15. Even without adding the baby girl to the equation, looking at the young couple gives me an off feeling. It looks like a little boy and his 20-something babysitter.
Well she don't look THAT old but he does look that young. | |
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calldapplwondery83 said: purplehippieonthe1 said: And here's an interview with that 13 year old and the mother of the baby..
Yikes! He REALLY looks (and sounds) younger than he is! Edit: after watching this video and reading the stories about the other older guys who said they also slept with her I'm starting to think that the 13-year old is not the father.. He hasn't even reached puberty yet! Is he even capable of producing "the goods" since he hasn't even reached the stage of his voice changing? Guys his age might be able to get it up but that doesn't mean they're capable of impregnating someone. [Edited 2/15/09 8:28am] I think that's actually possible long before you're 13. Anyway, that she slept with that boy is sick. | |
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Vendetta1 said: Does this really shock people? Really?
My daughter is 13. Three of her friends had babies at 12. It is SUCH a double standard. Baby girls getting pregnant, but let a little baby faced boy father the child and it is an outrage. What about the pre-teen girls???? I don't hear an outrage about that. The sad thing is, I know they don't know how to really enjoy sex. I tell all pre teen girls as a joke but serious at the same time. If you are 15 and your teenage boyfriend wants to have sex, he has NO clue how to please YOU. They most likely won't even get to experience an orgasm and then he gets you pregnant. What kinda bullshit is that? Dude, just wait. | |
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meow 85 said: Vendetta1 said: So is it a big deal because it's not the US? It happens everyday here.
I think people are making a big deal out of it because of how shockingly young the boy looks. Teen pregnancy's not exactly unknown in the UK either. My mum was pregnant with me at 17. Had me at 18. I was a marriage proposal. Dad asked her do u want to go halves in a baby. I had front row at their wedding. She wore a mini dress and didnt look pregnant. I was born 4 mths later. They were young, but it was a decision they made together. They were married 36 yrs when dad died. They were both working and had finished school. seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before | |
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meow85 said: I'm almost 24 and I'd consider myself too young to have kids yet. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around my same-aged best friend expecting. If my best friend is preggo, does that mean I'm a grownup now?
Well when that boy reaches your age, his daughter will be the age he is now. I guess that means you could be a grandma at your age? | |
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KatSkrizzle said: Vendetta1 said: Does this really shock people? Really?
My daughter is 13. Three of her friends had babies at 12. It is SUCH a double standard. Baby girls getting pregnant, but let a little baby faced boy father the child and it is an outrage. What about the pre-teen girls???? I don't hear an outrage about that. It's the same old standard though. I see the media asking the male how he is going to provide for the baby, when normally that question goes to the older parent but that would be the female in this case taking a 12 year old to bed. This is light years difference in age when one is in grade school and the other is in middle school. | |
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purplehippieonthe1 said: The plot thickens..... now there are two other boys claiming to be the father!
In this story, it is claimed that the girl slept with as many as eight boys during the period the child was conceived. More on this here: http://www.newsoftheworld...ve-it.html And a follow-up story here: http://www.thesun.co.uk/s...239272.ece i thought oh man, leave it to the tabloids to start calling her a slut but reading the articles those two boys aren't looking for attention. they went to their families before all this nonsense and said they hoped they weren't the father. who the hell lets her daughter have a boy sleep over let alone multiple boys?? this is all so messed up. and one father left his 40something wife for a 17 year old?? monkey see, monkey do. | |
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emm said: who the hell lets her daughter have a boy sleep over let alone multiple boys??
Did they though? Seems like some sneaky skeezin' going on. | |
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Cinnie said: emm said: who the hell lets her daughter have a boy sleep over let alone multiple boys??
Did they though? Seems like some sneaky skeezin' going on. there always will be at 15. but if you find the one boy credible that the girl didn't go to school the morning after her sleepover and instead looked after her baby brother then the mother is definitely playing a role in her daughter's delinquency. | |
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I cant even read this thread past the first page. I'm having a moment right now where i want to ring my 14 years old's neck and I fear this thread will push me over the edge!
A 13 year old has no business bringing another life into this world. Life is hard enough and to disadvantage not only oneself with dumb decisions but to also burden a newborn child? I mean come on, the young parents will not only be ostracized but they wont have the opportunity to finish becoming adults, and would likely only offer the new baby a heap of resentment. I know people who have done it...raise babies they had as pre-teens and the road was hard at best if not completely devasting. In this baby face boy situation, he is not legally old enough to sign a friggin basic contract, so how is he able to determine to raise a child. He has no income and yet this older girl got knocked up so now he's tied to her for the rest of his life? God help my son if he brings a piece of trash like that home and he impregnated her to boot. That girl who is the mother is probably all screwed up in the head to go out and get knocked up with a kid way younger. (I mean come on...when you were 15 and a girl in high school...it is NOT cool to date a middle school kid!!!! 2 years is like a million years when your that age) I would put his ass into military school with the quickness, until he was 18 and fight to remove the baby into a proper home. Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian, any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. | |
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Are you kidding me that this happens all the time in America? Fuck and I thought I was shocked at girls having babies from my school just after we graduated at 18 and 19. I don't even remember other 12 and 13 year olds really even knowing how sex worked at my school, and this was only 5 years or so ago. | |
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StillGotIt said: I cant even read this thread past the first page. I'm having a moment right now where i want to ring my 14 years old's neck and I fear this thread will push me over the edge!
Is the boy a piece of trash, too?A 13 year old has no business bringing another life into this world. Life is hard enough and to disadvantage not only oneself with dumb decisions but to also burden a newborn child? I mean come on, the young parents will not only be ostracized but they wont have the opportunity to finish becoming adults, and would likely only offer the new baby a heap of resentment. I know people who have done it...raise babies they had as pre-teens and the road was hard at best if not completely devasting. In this baby face boy situation, he is not legally old enough to sign a friggin basic contract, so how is he able to determine to raise a child. He has no income and yet this older girl got knocked up so now he's tied to her for the rest of his life? God help my son if he brings a piece of trash like that home and he impregnated her to boot. That girl who is the mother is probably all screwed up in the head to go out and get knocked up with a kid way younger. (I mean come on...when you were 15 and a girl in high school...it is NOT cool to date a middle school kid!!!! 2 years is like a million years when your that age) I would put his ass into military school with the quickness, until he was 18 and fight to remove the baby into a proper home. | |
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Arnotts said: Are you kidding me that this happens all the time in America? Fuck and I thought I was shocked at girls having babies from my school just after we graduated at 18 and 19. I don't even remember other 12 and 13 year olds really even knowing how sex worked at my school, and this was only 5 years or so ago. Yes this happens all the time here. And it's not a recent phenomenon. | |
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Cinnie said: emm said: who the hell lets her daughter have a boy sleep over let alone multiple boys??
Did they though? Seems like some sneaky skeezin' going on. | |
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StarCat said: Cinnie said: Did they though? Seems like some sneaky skeezin' going on. Haha | |
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Vendetta1 said: StillGotIt said: I cant even read this thread past the first page. I'm having a moment right now where i want to ring my 14 years old's neck and I fear this thread will push me over the edge!
Is the boy a piece of trash, too?A 13 year old has no business bringing another life into this world. Life is hard enough and to disadvantage not only oneself with dumb decisions but to also burden a newborn child? I mean come on, the young parents will not only be ostracized but they wont have the opportunity to finish becoming adults, and would likely only offer the new baby a heap of resentment. I know people who have done it...raise babies they had as pre-teens and the road was hard at best if not completely devasting. In this baby face boy situation, he is not legally old enough to sign a friggin basic contract, so how is he able to determine to raise a child. He has no income and yet this older girl got knocked up so now he's tied to her for the rest of his life? God help my son if he brings a piece of trash like that home and he impregnated her to boot. That girl who is the mother is probably all screwed up in the head to go out and get knocked up with a kid way younger. (I mean come on...when you were 15 and a girl in high school...it is NOT cool to date a middle school kid!!!! 2 years is like a million years when your that age) I would put his ass into military school with the quickness, until he was 18 and fight to remove the baby into a proper home. Yeah, I'm not really feeling okay the value judgements being passed on these two kids, especially (unsurprisingly) the girl. All kinds of really good kids end up having kids, and none of us knows what really went on here. Some of the media arrounding this situation, particularly British media, has had a very ugly classist tone to it that I'm not all that comfortable with. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: Vendetta1 said: Is the boy a piece of trash, too?
Yeah, I'm not really feeling okay the value judgements being passed on these two kids, especially (unsurprisingly) the girl. All kinds of really good kids end up having kids, and none of us knows what really went on here. Some of the media arrounding this situation, particularly British media, has had a very ugly classist tone to it that I'm not all that comfortable with. Actually...I think she's trash since she's older and likely has more knowledge on the sex subject. Sorry...if an older girl got impregnanted with my son, I wouldn't think much of her especially if at such a young age she was encouraged to keep the pregnancy. Like I said...what 15 year old high school girl reaches back to the middle school for a boyfriend? Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian, any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. | |
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StillGotIt said: meow85 said: Yeah, I'm not really feeling okay the value judgements being passed on these two kids, especially (unsurprisingly) the girl. All kinds of really good kids end up having kids, and none of us knows what really went on here. Some of the media arrounding this situation, particularly British media, has had a very ugly classist tone to it that I'm not all that comfortable with. Actually...I think she's trash since she's older and likely has more knowledge on the sex subject. Sorry...if an older girl got impregnanted with my son, I wouldn't think much of her especially if at such a young age she was encouraged to keep the pregnancy. Like I said...what 15 year old high school girl reaches back to the middle school for a boyfriend? A great example of the ugly tone that's so popular on this. Of course either kid or both entire families could be trash for all I know. But we don't know what went on, and calling a complete stranger, especially a kid, "trash" is pretty low if you ask me. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: StillGotIt said: Actually...I think she's trash since she's older and likely has more knowledge on the sex subject. Sorry...if an older girl got impregnanted with my son, I wouldn't think much of her especially if at such a young age she was encouraged to keep the pregnancy. Like I said...what 15 year old high school girl reaches back to the middle school for a boyfriend? A great example of the ugly tone that's so popular on this. Of course either kid or both entire families could be trash for all I know. But we don't know what went on, and calling a complete stranger, especially a kid, "trash" is pretty low if you ask me. Hey....I have no problem owning my words. Even when I was a young teen myself, I didn't think much of the other girls my age who went out trying to have babies, and I wouldn't socialize with them as obviously their focus was on something it ought not be on. I was like WTF...have you no home training? Close your dayum legs and if you must open them, why be stupid about it? Yes, they did this together with boys...and boys that I knew who fathered the kids were not shown any favor either in my circle. As far as I'm concerned, she gave up childhood in more than one way when she decided to bring a baby into the world. Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian, any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. | |
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yep....definitely trashy
"They are living with Penny, Chantelle’s jobless dad Steve, 43, and her five brothers in a rented council house in Eastbourne. The family live on benefits." and of the boy....this was HIS first time.... alfies dad.. "He said: “When I spoke to him he started crying. He said it was the first time he’d had sex, that he didn’t know what he was doing and of the complications that could come. “I will talk to him again and it will be the birds and the bees talk. Some may say it’s too late but he needs to understand so there is not another baby.” " Look at them...its clear that girl knew what she was doing...the boy was just foolishy going along with it. If I were his dad, I would get a DNA test done..... Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian, any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. | |
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StillGotIt said: yep....definitely trashy
"They are living with Penny, Chantelle’s jobless dad Steve, 43, and her five brothers in a rented council house in Eastbourne. The family live on benefits." and of the boy....this was HIS first time.... alfies dad.. "He said: “When I spoke to him he started crying. He said it was the first time he’d had sex, that he didn’t know what he was doing and of the complications that could come. “I will talk to him again and it will be the birds and the bees talk. Some may say it’s too late but he needs to understand so there is not another baby.” " Look at them...its clear that girl knew what she was doing...the boy was just foolishy going along with it. If I were his dad, I would get a DNA test done..... Who knows why this girl did what she did? To me, it seems she was looking for something and maybe getting that baby was getting someone to love her. I'd never think of any child as "trash". As far as the DNA test, that baby looks just like her dad. I guess she's not only trash, she's a slut, too. | |
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Yep...just as i suspected. She is a SKANK!!!!! Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian, any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. | |
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Its shocking, they are far too young to be having babies. Here in NZ the story broke a week ago, it turns out Alfies parents are both described as beneficiaries and uneducated, unemployed and just trash. Alfie has 8 siblings and it turned out the girl had no less than 4 other possible suitors that could have had that baby, it just seems sick, these people have no sex education in place and no idea of prevention. All the wrong people are having babies, here in NZ a 12 year old girl had a baby called Shomika, and her name was Latifah, her mother was 13 when she had her, so the woman is a grandmother at 25. That is just ghetto ass. Theres nothing funny about anyone having babies before 16, they should enjoy their childhood a bit more.
In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Alfie thing was a all a big hoax so the family could get the money off the tabloids. So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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Huggiebear said: Its shocking, they are far too young to be having babies. Here in NZ the story broke a week ago, it turns out Alfies parents are both described as beneficiaries and uneducated, unemployed and just trash. Alfie has 8 siblings and it turned out the girl had no less than 4 other possible suitors that could have had that baby, it just seems sick, these people have no sex education in place and no idea of prevention. All the wrong people are having babies, here in NZ a 12 year old girl had a baby called Shomika, and her name was Latifah, her mother was 13 when she had her, so the woman is a grandmother at 25. That is just ghetto ass. Theres nothing funny about anyone having babies before 16, they should enjoy their childhood a bit more.
In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Alfie thing was a all a big hoax so the family could get the money off the tabloids. How about before age 21? My gosh....teens shouldn't even have babies! Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian, any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. | |
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The news here had a look at fertility records and said in 2007 an 11 year black girl (African immigrant) had a baby and that in 2008 3 12 year old girls gave birth, all were Polynesian and from families described as unskilled labourers, incarcerated or unemployed.
There must be heaps of 11 year old girls in America giving birth, they should look for a great great grandmother whose only 49 called Darlene, who had her daughter Tomisha at 12, Tomisha had her daughter LaVonne at 12 and her daughter Tyramika was born when she was 11, and Tyramika whose 15 now has 4 kids Lafoniquah aged 3, Bonquiquisha whose 2 and the twins Shaquille and Tyreece who are 6 months and shes pregnant again along with her mother and grandmother. So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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They had a DNA test
He's not the father "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: They had a DNA test
He's not the father 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Huggiebear said: The news here had a look at fertility records and said in 2007 an 11 year black girl (African immigrant) had a baby and that in 2008 3 12 year old girls gave birth, all were Polynesian and from families described as unskilled labourers, incarcerated or unemployed.
There must be heaps of 11 year old girls in America giving birth, they should look for a great great grandmother whose only 49 called Darlene, who had her daughter Tomisha at 12, Tomisha had her daughter LaVonne at 12 and her daughter Tyramika was born when she was 11, and Tyramika whose 15 now has 4 kids Lafoniquah aged 3, Bonquiquisha whose 2 and the twins Shaquille and Tyreece who are 6 months and shes pregnant again along with her mother and grandmother. UM...WHAT DA FUCK? I'm tired of all these isha's and iqua's, nee nee's and nay nay's. | |
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bboy87 said: They had a DNA test
He's not the father That's jacked up. How on earth do you try to trap a 12-13 year old like that Anyhoo...I betcha his lil ass is about to get some sex education now so he won't have to endure anything like this again... (at least not anytime soon). | |
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