ZombieKitten said:

I'd put my money on manipulation....knowing that the system (whether right or wrong) is geared to assume the man's culpability in almost every situation...since, as I pointed out, most men don't report when they're victims and most others won't raise their hand to a woman....it's just like when men are the victims of sexual harassment/assaults...granted, it doesn't happen nearly on the scale as it does to women, but it does happen...but if you base your opinions solely on statistics, if a man DID report it, they'd get the look...

...and I know this to be true because I work in the EO field and have read formal complaints from men that rose to that level because they were blown off...

reneGade20 said:

I'm not arguing that it doesn't happen both ways, I'm just how relationships even get to that stage.

ZombieKitten said:

sometimes it's a personality conflict that feeds a larger passion...other times it's believing that they're out of options...or it could just be that one person in the relationship has utter control and the other can't leave...

reneGade20 said:

or deeper psychological problem

ZombieKitten said:

...crazy is as crazy does!!

reneGade20 said:

I guess if your folks treated each other badly and you didn't know any better, you'd have a kind of blueprint for relationships that you might inadvertently follow

DiamondGlove said:

A lot of them seem to love it too.

MsMisha319 said:

wtf

A woman fights back at a dude that is hitting her and she's celebrated and excused, a man that fights back at a woman that is hitting him and he's called "weak".

Messed up.

Women should not get a free pass to hit a man because she's smaller, weaker, whatever. The standard that the man should just walk away should apply to women as well.

No one has the right to hit anyone, man or woman.

JustErin said:

Exactly. It's like my dog...I don't beat him up, but if he'd bite me, I'd fuck him up. So, treat your women like she's your dog.

^
like she's your bitch

JustErin said:

I used to have to pin my wife down on the bed sometimes when she went off, hitting me and even smacking me with clothes hangers. That shit can really hurt so I had to defend myself somewhat. I always understood her being emotional so I was always in control and just trying to slow everything down. Now, a woman who slaps a man's face in public like you see so often in the films could reasonably expect to be slapped back, but two wrongs don't make a right, and the bottom line is it's wrong to physically assault anyone.

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Fauxie said:

Yes, we all know about this. The org chatters have told us all about you.

JustErin said:

Oh shut up!

You're a fine one to talk about that.

:choke:

Notice how I edited to say that it does hurt! Was just remembering.

JustErin said:

My biological mom was 4 feet 11 inches tall and she was the batterer. Pops used to get stabbed, knocked down stairs and have small appliances thrown at him. She used to catch him off guard. They would argue and 4 hours later, his ass would be walking down the hallway right before he got bathed in some hot chicken grease. One time she beat him so bad with a pipe that his ass passed out. When the police were called....it was like WTF! I dont know why he would do shit and try to go to sleep though

Fauxie said:

And an open hand slap to the face and a good choke is what everyone needs, I say.

JustErin said:

Yep, bit of a hair pull to keep you honest.

Fauxie said:

Indeed.

Is it wrong that Chris Brown is suddenly attractive to me?


Just kidding
























.....sorta.

JustErin said:

:cringe:

JustErin said:

Number23 said:

prince is working on a new tune called u ain't right billy jack bitch

my grandma has always been abusive to her husband! and he has never hit her back (as far as i know). i will never forget the time that i saw her throw a huge heavy potted plant at his head and it broke all over him, and he was knocked out and we had to take him to the ER room.... my grandma has a huge temper! and you do not want to be in the same room with her when she's angry! my grandpa on the other hand is very calm...

StillGotIt said:

I agree with Erin as well. I adore women and support them through and through, but the double standard with regard to physical violence -- and even occasionally a sort of assumed luxury of being able to hit men without getting hit back because women are somehow "smaller and more fragile," and the man would be a "punk" to get physical -- is utter BS.

My parents used to fight. They'd cuss one-another out, and they both were alternate instigators. But I never once saw my dad raise his hand to my mom. My mother, on the other hand, used to hit my father, intentionally scratch up his face, throw hard porcelain mugs at him (she once almost broke his nose), even once rushed him as he was descending a set of stairs... and they both ended up crushing me at the bottom when I was about 5. It was horrible! And while I love my mom so much, I wondered even at that age why the heck she could get away with that stuff? Sometimes I wanted her to spend a night in jail... or even have my father hit her back ONE good time, so that she'd learn never to get violent again.

In retrospect, I'm so glad my father never retaliated, but men and women alike need to recognize violence is destructive regardless of the directionality -- and NO ONE should expect absolution from its consequences, legal or visceral, based on gender.

nobody should hit anybody let alone the one they love

A real man does not hit a woman.

Period.

End of story.

ZombieKitten said:

althom should be hit.

RodeoSchro said:

I don't think anyone is saying it should be the Friday night fights at the Henderson's...but I agree that its a huge double standard that a woman, because of her gender and physical stature, should be able to get away with hitting a man....real PEOPLE don't hit other people...

reneGade20 said:

I don't think anyone thinks it's OK for a woman to hit a man. No one has said that here...

Vendetta1 said:

This is the same chick who justified drug dealing to take care of your kids, so go figure.