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Reply #30 posted 02/10/09 2:49pm

DiamondGlove

Everyone's negative opinion on Sean Connery is worthless. The man is James Bond. The coolest human being that ever lived. And I know a lot of women out there need to be smacked.
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Reply #31 posted 02/10/09 3:01pm

Dayclear

rolleyes first you think James Bond is a real human being, then you say women need to be smacked, now come on who's really the fool here? confused

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Reply #32 posted 02/10/09 3:40pm

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I just came across an update

http://bossip.com/82957/b...more-82957

Bossip just received the real story of Chris Brown and Rihanna’s fight from a highly placed source in the Chris Brown legal camp:

They were in the car leaving the Clive Davis party. While Chris was driving, he got a phone call from a young lady. Our source tells us that Rihanna knew that Chris had been messing around with this particular girl and she has, as of late, been the reason for many of their heated arguments. Rihanna got a glimpse of the phone, saw the name and number and immediately recognized who it was. She went ballistic and began to "beat the sh*t" out of Chris (while driving). She was so uncontrollable, that Chris began to fight back in self defense, which ensued the fight. Rihanna’s rage stemmed from Chris’ questionable fidelity in the last few months.
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #33 posted 02/10/09 3:43pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

JayJai said:

I just came across an update

http://bossip.com/82957/b...more-82957

Bossip just received the real story of Chris Brown and Rihanna’s fight from a highly placed source in the Chris Brown legal camp:

They were in the car leaving the Clive Davis party. While Chris was driving, he got a phone call from a young lady. Our source tells us that Rihanna knew that Chris had been messing around with this particular girl and she has, as of late, been the reason for many of their heated arguments. Rihanna got a glimpse of the phone, saw the name and number and immediately recognized who it was. She went ballistic and began to "beat the sh*t" out of Chris (while driving). She was so uncontrollable, that Chris began to fight back in self defense, which ensued the fight. Rihanna’s rage stemmed from Chris’ questionable fidelity in the last few months.



In that case they're perfect for each other.
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #34 posted 02/10/09 3:45pm

Vendetta1

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I'm not saying he should have hit her but sometimes emotional abuse can drive people to do things they wouldn't ordinarily do. She is a really horrible person.
I don't know why he keeps taking her back.
WTF? Do you know her?
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Reply #35 posted 02/10/09 3:51pm

ZombieKitten

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When I first saw the clip of sean connery I thought he meant in the context of some kind of disaster when you need sense slapped back into you, but I realize now that in our normal lives it's probably more likely that he meant when a woman just won't shut up.

I watched it with the sound down, hoping he was going to slap Barbara Walters lol
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Reply #36 posted 02/10/09 3:59pm

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DiamondGlove said:

Everyone's negative opinion on Sean Connery is worthless. The man is James Bond. The coolest human being that ever lived. And I know a lot of women out there need to be smacked.


You've got to be kidding. lol
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Reply #37 posted 02/10/09 4:30pm

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ZombieKitten said:

NDRU said:

When I first saw the clip of sean connery I thought he meant in the context of some kind of disaster when you need sense slapped back into you, but I realize now that in our normal lives it's probably more likely that he meant when a woman just won't shut up.

I watched it with the sound down, hoping he was going to slap Barbara Walters lol


"Shtop ashking me which kind of chree I would be!!" mad
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Reply #38 posted 02/10/09 4:32pm

ZombieKitten

NDRU said:

ZombieKitten said:


I watched it with the sound down, hoping he was going to slap Barbara Walters lol


"Shtop ashking me which kind of chree I would be!!" mad

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Reply #39 posted 02/10/09 4:53pm

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Well, I can testify that some females definitely do encourage the violence. Not saying that Rihanna deserved it or anything, but some females provoke men to violence. I've seen it too many times to count. I seriously wonder about her not cooperating with authorities about this. I wonder if she threw the first punch hmmm Stories are out there about her possessiveness and jealous nature. And we all know that he comes from a violent household.

This isn't the first time their relationship has gotten physical. People are now coming out the woodwork with stories of their volatile relationship. They are too young to be embroiled in such nonsense disbelief


Smooches;)
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Reply #40 posted 02/10/09 4:56pm

Vendetta1

MsMisha319 said:

Well, I can testify that some females definitely do encourage the violence. Not saying that Rihanna deserved it or anything, but some females provoke men to violence. I've seen it too many times to count. I seriously wonder about her not cooperating with authorities about this. I wonder if she threw the first punch hmmm Stories are out there about her possessiveness and jealous nature. And we all know that he comes from a violent household.

This isn't the first time their relationship has gotten physical. People are now coming out the woodwork with stories of their volatile relationship. They are too young to be embroiled in such nonsense disbelief


Smooches;)
I don't care what a woman encourages. A man is a punk ass bitch to hit a woman. Just like if it were another guy, he could have simply walked away.
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Reply #41 posted 02/10/09 5:13pm

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Vendetta1 said:

MsMisha319 said:

Well, I can testify that some females definitely do encourage the violence. Not saying that Rihanna deserved it or anything, but some females provoke men to violence. I've seen it too many times to count. I seriously wonder about her not cooperating with authorities about this. I wonder if she threw the first punch hmmm Stories are out there about her possessiveness and jealous nature. And we all know that he comes from a violent household.

This isn't the first time their relationship has gotten physical. People are now coming out the woodwork with stories of their volatile relationship. They are too young to be embroiled in such nonsense disbelief


Smooches;)
I don't care what a woman encourages. A man is a punk ass bitch to hit a woman. Just like if it were another guy, he could have simply walked away.



Well, to each his own. I don't agree with the violence, but I don't consider females like that victims. You can't provoke and provoke and nag and nag until dude finally smacks the shit out of you, then sit and cry about it. neutral

But that's not to say that this was the case with these two, We still don't have a clear understanding of what happened.


Smooches;)
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Reply #42 posted 02/10/09 5:17pm

Vendetta1

MsMisha319 said:

Vendetta1 said:

I don't care what a woman encourages. A man is a punk ass bitch to hit a woman. Just like if it were another guy, he could have simply walked away.



Well, to each his own. I don't agree with the violence, but I don't consider females like that victims. You can't provoke and provoke and nag and nag until dude finally smacks the shit out of you, then sit and cry about it. neutral

But that's not to say that this was the case with these two, We still don't have a clear understanding of what happened.


Smooches;)
I wish to God I hadn't read your post.
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Reply #43 posted 02/10/09 5:20pm

MsMisha319

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Well, you did wink


Smooches;)
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Reply #44 posted 02/10/09 5:28pm

Vendetta1

MsMisha319 said:

Well, you did wink


Smooches;)
Yep and I can't respond with what I think of it without getting snipped or banned.
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Reply #45 posted 02/10/09 5:31pm

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There is no excuse (other than self defense) for violence ever. Period. That's it, end of story. No woman "asks for it". I don't care how much someone nags or talks at someone else, that is no excuse to haul off and smack someone.
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Reply #46 posted 02/10/09 5:33pm

Vendetta1

CarrieMpls said:

There is no excuse (other than self defense) for violence ever. Period. That's it, end of story. No woman "asks for it". I don't care how much someone nags or talks at someone else, that is no excuse to haul off and smack someone.
You said it much nicer than I would have. hug
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Reply #47 posted 02/10/09 5:34pm

reneGade20

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Vendetta1 said:

MsMisha319 said:

Well, I can testify that some females definitely do encourage the violence. Not saying that Rihanna deserved it or anything, but some females provoke men to violence. I've seen it too many times to count. I seriously wonder about her not cooperating with authorities about this. I wonder if she threw the first punch hmmm Stories are out there about her possessiveness and jealous nature. And we all know that he comes from a violent household.

This isn't the first time their relationship has gotten physical. People are now coming out the woodwork with stories of their volatile relationship. They are too young to be embroiled in such nonsense disbelief


Smooches;)
I don't care what a woman encourages. A man is a punk ass bitch to hit a woman. Just like if it were another guy, he could have simply walked away.


I definitely disagree with the "simply could've walked away" thing....I've been in several arguements that were steadily ramping up to potential fireworks and, since I have home training, have tried to walk away, only to have the young lady place herself squarely between me and the door....now, had I pushed my way past her, or pushed her out of the way I'd be wrong...so what then? Since I was taught at a young age to respect women and not hit them, my reward for rising above the fray was to be belittled and harangued because she knew that she wasn't going to get beat the fuck down....bottom line, while I can never agree with a man hitting a woman, I sure as hell don't buy the helpless victim shit either....
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
(George Eliot)

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http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #48 posted 02/10/09 5:35pm

MsMisha319

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Vendetta1 said:

MsMisha319 said:

Well, you did wink


Smooches;)
Yep and I can't respond with what I think of it without getting snipped or banned.



rolleyes Like I said, to each his own. We don't know what happened. I think it's a bit much to call him a batterer. She may have started it. She may have hit him first. If that's the case, then will we call her a batterer as well? Does she deserve to be the victim if she provoked him or hit him first?

Eh, well. Doesn't matter. I'm predicting this thread will be horribly off topic pretty soon lol

Smooches;)
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Reply #49 posted 02/10/09 5:37pm

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reneGade20 said:

Vendetta1 said:

I don't care what a woman encourages. A man is a punk ass bitch to hit a woman. Just like if it were another guy, he could have simply walked away.


I definitely disagree with the "simply could've walked away" thing....I've been in several arguements that were steadily ramping up to potential fireworks and, since I have home training, have tried to walk away, only to have the young lady place herself squarely between me and the door....now, had I pushed my way past her, or pushed her out of the way I'd be wrong...so what then? Since I was taught at a young age to respect women and not hit them, my reward for rising above the fray was to be belittled and harangued because she knew that she wasn't going to get beat the fuck down....bottom line, while I can never agree with a man hitting a woman, I sure as hell don't buy the helpless victim shit either....





clapping Agreed


Smooches;)
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Reply #50 posted 02/10/09 5:44pm

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Worst domestic-violence neighbor situation that I've ever overheard (and there have been way too many):

I awoke to hearing a scuffle in the apartment next to mine. The violent argument was between a man and a woman.

"Stop hitting me! I'm tired of you hitting me all the time! That's why I hit you back!!"

It was the man who was shouting that.

I shook my head, as I dialed 911...
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Reply #51 posted 02/10/09 5:47pm

Vendetta1

reneGade20 said:

Vendetta1 said:

I don't care what a woman encourages. A man is a punk ass bitch to hit a woman. Just like if it were another guy, he could have simply walked away.


I definitely disagree with the "simply could've walked away" thing....I've been in several arguements that were steadily ramping up to potential fireworks and, since I have home training, have tried to walk away, only to have the young lady place herself squarely between me and the door....now, had I pushed my way past her, or pushed her out of the way I'd be wrong...so what then? Since I was taught at a young age to respect women and not hit them, my reward for rising above the fray was to be belittled and harangued because she knew that she wasn't going to get beat the fuck down....bottom line, while I can never agree with a man hitting a woman, I sure as hell don't buy the helpless victim shit either....
I don't believe in violence period and I definitely will never believe in words being justification to put your hands on anyone. In a case where a smaller woman gets hit by a 6 foot 2 inch 200 lb man, not only does that make her a victim, it makes him a weak ass motherfucker.
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Reply #52 posted 02/10/09 5:49pm

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ThreadBare said:

Worst domestic-violence neighbor situation:

I awoke to hearing a scuffle in the apartment next to mine. The violent argument was between a man and a woman.

"Stop hitting me! I'm tired of you hitting me all the time! That's why I hit you back!!"

It was the man who was shouting that.

I shook my head, as I dialed 911...


Overhearing domestic violence is the worst. sad

I used to have to call on my neighbors across the hall from me several years (and two apartments) ago. It was a gay male couple, one was horribly abusive, both verbally and physically. It seemed to me the police never showed up fast enough and the abusive one had always left by the time they got there. It would often take them over half an hour to get there.
I will always wonder if it's because they were gay that they took their damn sweet time to show up.

sigh
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Reply #53 posted 02/10/09 5:49pm

Vendetta1

MsMisha319 said:

Vendetta1 said:

Yep and I can't respond with what I think of it without getting snipped or banned.



rolleyes Like I said, to each his own. We don't know what happened. I think it's a bit much to call him a batterer. She may have started it. She may have hit him first. If that's the case, then will we call her a batterer as well? Does she deserve to be the victim if she provoked him or hit him first?

Eh, well. Doesn't matter. I'm predicting this thread will be horribly off topic pretty soon lol

Smooches;)
Common sense says the man will be the one hauled away.

You sound as if you are excusing bad behavior.
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Reply #54 posted 02/10/09 5:54pm

ThreadBare

CarrieMpls said:

ThreadBare said:

Worst domestic-violence neighbor situation that I've ever overheard (and I've overheard way too many):

I awoke to hearing a scuffle in the apartment next to mine. The violent argument was between a man and a woman.

"Stop hitting me! I'm tired of you hitting me all the time! That's why I hit you back!!"

It was the man who was shouting that.

I shook my head, as I dialed 911...


Overhearing domestic violence is the worst. sad

I used to have to call on my neighbors across the hall from me several years (and two apartments) ago. It was a gay male couple, one was horribly abusive, both verbally and physically. It seemed to me the police never showed up fast enough and the abusive one had always left by the time they got there. It would often take them over half an hour to get there.
I will always wonder if it's because they were gay that they took their damn sweet time to show up.

sigh


Yeah, and I had heard a bunch before at different stages of my life. The cops always take forever, like Tracy Chapman sang in that old tune of hers.

Behind The Wall


Last night I heard the screaming
Loud voices behind the wall
Another sleepless night for me
It won`t do no good to call
The police
Always come late
If they come at all

And when they arrive
they say they can`t interfere
With domestic affairs
Between a man and his wife
And as they walk out the door
The tears well up in her eyes

Last night I heard the screaming
Then a silence that chilled my soul
I prayed that I was dreaming
When I saw the ambulance in the road

And the policeman said
`I`m here to keep the peace
Will the crowd disperse
I think we all could use some sleep`
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Reply #55 posted 02/10/09 5:56pm

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Vendetta1 said:

reneGade20 said:

I don't believe in violence period and I definitely will never believe in words being justification to put your hands on anyone. In a case where a smaller woman gets hit by a 6 foot 2 inch 200 lb man, not only does that make her a victim, it makes him a weak ass motherfucker.


so in other words, its okay for the smaller woman to verbally abuse the bigger guy...because he's a MAN and he should stand there and just take it...otherwise, people will label him as a weak assed motherfucker....my point is that if he makes even the least bit of contact while trying to get away from her, she will most likely turn it around and scream "you hit me!"...don't get me wrong, I do not espouse any kind of violence towards women, under any circumstance...but I've dealt with women doing that shit to me AND I've had to go retrieve troops from the MP station who got hauled off by the cops because of the same thing..."officer, I tried to leave...she blocked the door...I moved her out of the way as I tried to leave again, then she called y'all!"

just because men have too much pride to report when they're getting physically abused by the women in their lives, doesn't mean it doesn't happen....
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
(George Eliot)

the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #56 posted 02/10/09 6:03pm

Vendetta1

reneGade20 said:

Vendetta1 said:

I don't believe in violence period and I definitely will never believe in words being justification to put your hands on anyone. In a case where a smaller woman gets hit by a 6 foot 2 inch 200 lb man, not only does that make her a victim, it makes him a weak ass motherfucker.


so in other words, its okay for the smaller woman to verbally abuse the bigger guy...because he's a MAN and he should stand there and just take it...otherwise, people will label him as a weak assed motherfucker....my point is that if he makes even the least bit of contact while trying to get away from her, she will most likely turn it around and scream "you hit me!"...don't get me wrong, I do not espouse any kind of violence towards women, under any circumstance...but I've dealt with women doing that shit to me AND I've had to go retrieve troops from the MP station who got hauled off by the cops because of the same thing..."officer, I tried to leave...she blocked the door...I moved her out of the way as I tried to leave again, then she called y'all!"

just because men have too much pride to report when they're getting physically abused by the women in their lives, doesn't mean it doesn't happen....
I think a man or anyone is weak when they use their fists when someone verbally abuses them. I personally would not consider a man weak if he held his ground and did not hit a woman verbally abusing him. And who cares what other people would call him?

And you make my point when you speak of troops getting hauled off. They are going to take the woman's side.

On a lighter note: men and women show you "crazy" from early on. People are just as crazy for sticking around and taking that shit.
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Reply #57 posted 02/10/09 6:09pm

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Vendetta1 said:

MsMisha319 said:




rolleyes Like I said, to each his own. We don't know what happened. I think it's a bit much to call him a batterer. She may have started it. She may have hit him first. If that's the case, then will we call her a batterer as well? Does she deserve to be the victim if she provoked him or hit him first?

Eh, well. Doesn't matter. I'm predicting this thread will be horribly off topic pretty soon lol

Smooches;)
Common sense says the man will be the one hauled away.

You sound as if you are excusing bad behavior.




Lawd have mercy. I'm not being pulled into this. Plain and simple, not all females who cry abuse are truly victims.There are 2 sides to every story. That's my opinion and I don't need to justify my opinions to anyone. Feel whatever you may. smile


Smooches;)
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Reply #58 posted 02/10/09 6:15pm

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Vendetta1 said:


I personally would not consider a man weak if he held his ground and did not hit a woman verbally abusing him. And who cares what other people would call him?


My point in that comment was that some men hold their ground because of what will befall him, legally and otherwise, if he doesn't...as well as being called weak M/Fer regardless of the situation....

And you make my point when you speak of troops getting hauled off. They are going to take the woman's side.


This, sadly, is the case more times than not...though in the military's case, they also tend to remove the man in a heated argument just in case...

On a lighter note: men and women show you "crazy" from early on. People are just as crazy for sticking around and taking that shit.


lol true, true....crazy is definitely apparent early...but I'm talking about my pre marriage stuff when I mentioned myself....
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
(George Eliot)

the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #59 posted 02/10/09 6:18pm

ZombieKitten

reneGade20 said:

Vendetta1 said:

I don't believe in violence period and I definitely will never believe in words being justification to put your hands on anyone. In a case where a smaller woman gets hit by a 6 foot 2 inch 200 lb man, not only does that make her a victim, it makes him a weak ass motherfucker.


so in other words, its okay for the smaller woman to verbally abuse the bigger guy...because he's a MAN and he should stand there and just take it...otherwise, people will label him as a weak assed motherfucker....my point is that if he makes even the least bit of contact while trying to get away from her, she will most likely turn it around and scream "you hit me!"...don't get me wrong, I do not espouse any kind of violence towards women, under any circumstance...but I've dealt with women doing that shit to me AND I've had to go retrieve troops from the MP station who got hauled off by the cops because of the same thing..."officer, I tried to leave...she blocked the door...I moved her out of the way as I tried to leave again, then she called y'all!"

just because men have too much pride to report when they're getting physically abused by the women in their lives, doesn't mean it doesn't happen....


hmmm
if this kind of thing is happening, it sounds like a terrible relationship!
How disrespectful and hurtful to belittle and harangue - if after maybe 2 warnings it keeps happening, I'd be giving them an ultimatum, quit that shit or leave. VERY unhealthy! A couple is meant to be a team, on the same side! If he isn't pulling his weight (or insert issue here) and she in turn is being verbally abusive, out of exasperation? anger? frustration? then you have serious problems and need help if you can't do it together. It's totally immature, I just don't understand it. Maybe it's personality types? Upbringing? all of the above sad
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