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PrintableAce said: Mysterioso said: Victoria Beckham is fucking fab. Paris, however, is drab.
Victoria, on the other hand, is AT LEAST interesting enough to carry herself in a gallantly sophisticated manner and maintain charisma without being the vanguard for the ingenue En Vogue with the contemporary gen-X Fibrosis Deficient Infantile Social Savvy Sons-of-Bitches of TODAY! *Catches Breath*
So, you feel that Victoria Beckham and Paris are not working the same side of the street? Not really. This sig is just a fig of your imago-neigh-shun | |
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Ace said: SCNDLS said: I guess I don't think any of these traits/characteristics justify her fame, success (doing what I'm still not sure), or place in the public eye. Victoria Beckham on the other hand actually worked hard for many years doing something that generated a product that millions of people actually bought. I think the media's fascination with her is residual from her work with the Spice Girls. So I definitely put her above Paris in that regard.
Some might say that Victoria Beckham is a - at best - mediocre singer, that her work has not been so hard, and that her principal talent was having the luck to be in the right place at the right time. I might find her more stylish and more likable than Paris Hilton, but I don't "put her above" Paris Hilton. To say that I did would mean that I felt that what Victoria Beckham has done with her life is somehow more valiant. I don't.  I'm not saying anything about whether Victoria has talent or not. I'm not judging her talent or life. All I'm saying is that she actually worked for what she has and occassionally still tours and records to put a product out there that someone actually buys. It took work for Victoria to get to where she is. Nobody said, "Oh, you're cute and have a name so here ya go." Hard work, or ANY work for that matter, is NOT what put Paris in the spotlight and keeps her there. | |
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JustErin said: Ace said: Some people like big asses, some like small and some prefer the middle ground. Jessica Simpson has never been my type. Yes, chacun son goût is the key phrase here.You know, another thing that I find odd is people for some reason feel the need to totally bash the opposite of what they are praising or defending. A perfect example is these huge ass threads. People talk about how great and amazing one way is, totally defend it - which is great and all but then they turn around and completely insult anyone that does not have the look they like. I'm not sure if that came out the way I wanted it to. Anyway, this is an interesting thread. I'm not saying one is better than the other. That's an elitist mentality (Then again, I am told that I have the proclivity to propagate what I feel and believe is the standard to uphold and convey oneself through. Maybe I do it, subconsciously.  ). But all in all, I'm not saying that one is better than the other and holding that as a parabolic, solid fact. It's all preference. I just don't like Paris. Why can't I just not like Paris? I JUST DON'T LIKE PARIS!!! Unless we're talking about the city where the Eiffel Tower is stationed. And Victoria Beckham is INTERESTING! Hell, Britney Spears is SOMEWHAT entertaining. Paris Hilton (In my humble opinion) isn't. She's bla-bla-BLAND!This sig is just a fig of your imago-neigh-shun | |
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Mysterioso said: I just don't like Paris. Why can't I just not like Paris? I JUST DON'T LIKE PARIS!!!
Exactly. She's an annoying celebrity, no different than Tom Cruise and Jennifer Lopez. | |
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Mysterioso said: JustErin said: You know, another thing that I find odd is people for some reason feel the need to totally bash the opposite of what they are praising or defending. A perfect example is these huge ass threads. People talk about how great and amazing one way is, totally defend it - which is great and all but then they turn around and completely insult anyone that does not have the look they like. I'm not sure if that came out the way I wanted it to. Anyway, this is an interesting thread. I'm not saying one is better than the other. That's an elitist mentality (Then again, I am told that I have the proclivity to propagate what I feel and believe is the standard to uphold and convey oneself through. Maybe I do it, subconsciously. ). But all in all, I'm not saying that one is better than the other and holding that as a parabolic, solid fact. It's all preference. I just don't like Paris. Why can't I just not like Paris? I JUST DON'T LIKE PARIS!!! Unless we're talking about the city where the Eiffel Tower is stationed. And Victoria Beckham is INTERESTING! Hell, Britney Spears is SOMEWHAT entertaining. Paris Hilton (In my humble opinion) isn't. She's bla-bla-BLAND!Where did I say that people are not allowed to dislike something? | |
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JustErin said: Mysterioso said: I'm not saying one is better than the other. That's an elitist mentality (Then again, I am told that I have the proclivity to propagate what I feel and believe is the standard to uphold and convey oneself through. Maybe I do it, subconsciously. ). But all in all, I'm not saying that one is better than the other and holding that as a parabolic, solid fact. It's all preference. I just don't like Paris. Why can't I just not like Paris? I JUST DON'T LIKE PARIS!!! Unless we're talking about the city where the Eiffel Tower is stationed. And Victoria Beckham is INTERESTING! Hell, Britney Spears is SOMEWHAT entertaining. Paris Hilton (In my humble opinion) isn't. She's bla-bla-BLAND!Where did I say that people are not allowed to dislike something? There's always got to be a logical or feasibly laudable enough reason to choose an averse or an unfavorable detesting of some sort against someone. Specifically, the likes of a Paris Hilton or a Kim Kardashian. Damn! I mean, I'm probably an attention whore, myself, subconsciously. Maybe I'm guilty and in turn hypocritical, as a result. Shit, I don't know! At this point, I'm just battling myself and eating the scraps of prepubescent flesh to shreds. I wasn't built for verbal conflict (Or any type of conflict, unless I REALLY have to get down.). How did we get here? Anyway, she's a glorified gloryhog attention whore. But you know what? The Celebratory Status Quota is overrated and it's all our/my fault. We all build people up and stomp others down. We can't get enough of that shit! It's like a game of chess, except, we're just the innocent (Yeah, right!) bystanders and onlookers who witness decadence of our peers that are more privileged than we are. Love of Money, greed, hate, envy, lust.....SHUCKS! We're all guilty of something, here. I'm losing it, bro! I need to pop a pill or two. GOD!  My fucking head hurts! I need a Bayer to Bear anymore of this nonsense!                                       [Edited 2/5/09 13:34pm] This sig is just a fig of your imago-neigh-shun | |
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Mysterioso said: JustErin said: Where did I say that people are not allowed to dislike something? There's always got to be a logical or feasibly laudable enough reason to choose an averse or an unfavorable detesting of some sort against someone. Specifically, the likes of a Paris Hilton or a Kim Kardashian. Damn! I mean, I'm probably an attention whore, myself, subconsciously. Maybe I'm guilty and in turn hypocritical, as a result. Shit, I don't know! At this point, I'm just battling myself and eating the scraps of prepubescent flesh to shreds. I wasn't built for verbal conflict (Or any type of conflict, unless I REALLY have to get down.). How did we get here? Anyway, she's a glorified gloryhog attention whore. But you know what? The Celebratory Status Quota is overrated and it's all our/my fault. We all build people up and stomp others down. We can't get enough of that shit! It's like a game of chess, except, we're just the innocent (Yeah, right!) bystanders and onlookers who witness decadence of our peers that are more privileged than we our. Love of Money, greed, hate, envy, lust.....SHUCKS! We're all guilty of something, here. I'm losing it, bro! I need to pop a pill or two. GOD! My fucking head hurts! I need a Bayer to Bear anymore of this nonsense! 
No, no one who has 15 line posts that also contain 25 emoticons is being a conscious attention whore! | |
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Mysterioso said: Ace said: So, you feel that Victoria Beckham and Paris are not working the same side of the street? Not really. How so? | |
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Ace said: Mysterioso said: Not really. How so? I'm not crazy about Victoria. For example, she could use a little meat on her bones (In my humble opinion. But if it works for her, go on with your bad self). And also, when I was younger, The Spice Girls were "THE SHIT" (Yes, I said it. And almost all of them were hot. A few iffy ones, though. I can't put my finger on which one, exactly. Victoria wasn't one of the iffy ones. She was actually dickable.). She has a part of my youth. So maybe therein lies the bias. Paris Hilton came around the time I developed a tendency to be misanthropic towards obnoxious-inducing individuals like the vain attention whore known as Paris Hilton. I would go as far as to say that she made attention whoring a glorified standard. But, that would be pushing the gullibility a bit too far. I know my boundaries. So I'll stop there before I make myself look any more foolish than I already have in this thread and others.  This sig is just a fig of your imago-neigh-shun | |
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SCNDLS said: Ace said: Some might say that Victoria Beckham is a - at best - mediocre singer, that her work has not been so hard, and that her principal talent was having the luck to be in the right place at the right time. I might find her more stylish and more likable than Paris Hilton, but I don't "put her above" Paris Hilton. To say that I did would mean that I felt that what Victoria Beckham has done with her life is somehow more valiant. I don't. I'm not saying anything about whether Victoria has talent or not. I'm not judging her talent or life. All I'm saying is that she actually worked for what she has and occassionally still tours and records to put a product out there that someone actually buys. It took work for Victoria to get to where she is. Nobody said, "Oh, you're cute and have a name so here ya go." Hard work, or ANY work for that matter, is NOT what put Paris in the spotlight and keeps her there. Wouldn't you say that Victoria Beckham was hired for The Spice Girls because she was cute? I know you're not saying it was for her vocal chops.
And couldn't one just as easily argue that Paris has really hustled to capitalize on her fame and that, since Victoria wrapped up her arduous tour with said Spices, she hasn't exactly been punchin' the clock at the sawmill? To me these two are six and one half-dozen of the other. I personally don't see any significant difference in the amount of elbow grease the two have put in over the years and, even if I did, I guess my question is, ultimately, "So what?". You play the hand that's dealt ya. | |
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JustErin said: Mysterioso said: There's always got to be a logical or feasibly laudable enough reason to choose an averse or an unfavorable detesting of some sort against someone. Specifically, the likes of a Paris Hilton or a Kim Kardashian. Damn! I mean, I'm probably an attention whore, myself, subconsciously. Maybe I'm guilty and in turn hypocritical, as a result. Shit, I don't know! At this point, I'm just battling myself and eating the scraps of prepubescent flesh to shreds. I wasn't built for verbal conflict (Or any type of conflict, unless I REALLY have to get down.). How did we get here? Anyway, she's a glorified gloryhog attention whore. But you know what? The Celebratory Status Quota is overrated and it's all our/my fault. We all build people up and stomp others down. We can't get enough of that shit! It's like a game of chess, except, we're just the innocent (Yeah, right!) bystanders and onlookers who witness decadence of our peers that are more privileged than we our. Love of Money, greed, hate, envy, lust.....SHUCKS! We're all guilty of something, here. I'm losing it, bro! I need to pop a pill or two. GOD! My fucking head hurts! I need a Bayer to Bear anymore of this nonsense!
No, no one who has 15 line posts that also contain 25 emoticons is being a conscious attention whore! Guilty as charged. HAHAHAHA! Really funny.  This sig is just a fig of your imago-neigh-shun | |
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Mysterioso said: JustErin said: You know, another thing that I find odd is people for some reason feel the need to totally bash the opposite of what they are praising or defending. A perfect example is these huge ass threads. People talk about how great and amazing one way is, totally defend it - which is great and all but then they turn around and completely insult anyone that does not have the look they like. I'm not sure if that came out the way I wanted it to. Anyway, this is an interesting thread. I'm not saying one is better than the other. That's an elitist mentality (Then again, I am told that I have the proclivity to propagate what I feel and believe is the standard to uphold and convey oneself through. Maybe I do it, subconsciously. ). But all in all, I'm not saying that one is better than the other and holding that as a parabolic, solid fact. It's all preference. I just don't like Paris. Why can't I just not like Paris? I JUST DON'T LIKE PARIS!!! Unless we're talking about the city where the Eiffel Tower is stationed. And Victoria Beckham is INTERESTING! Hell, Britney Spears is SOMEWHAT entertaining. Paris Hilton (In my humble opinion) isn't. She's bla-bla-BLAND!Nobody said you can't not like Paris Hilton. What was implied is that your stated reasons for preferring Victoria Beckham over her seem one half of a split hair. | |
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Ace said: Mysterioso said: I'm not saying one is better than the other. That's an elitist mentality (Then again, I am told that I have the proclivity to propagate what I feel and believe is the standard to uphold and convey oneself through. Maybe I do it, subconsciously. ). But all in all, I'm not saying that one is better than the other and holding that as a parabolic, solid fact. It's all preference. I just don't like Paris. Why can't I just not like Paris? I JUST DON'T LIKE PARIS!!! Unless we're talking about the city where the Eiffel Tower is stationed. And Victoria Beckham is INTERESTING! Hell, Britney Spears is SOMEWHAT entertaining. Paris Hilton (In my humble opinion) isn't. She's bla-bla-BLAND!Nobody said you can't not like Paris Hilton. What was implied is that your stated reasons for preferring Victoria Beckham over her seem one half of a split hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Neither is better than the other. But, Victoria is tolerable. You win. FUCK! This sig is just a fig of your imago-neigh-shun | |
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Mysterioso said: Ace said: Nobody said you can't not like Paris Hilton. What was implied is that your stated reasons for preferring Victoria Beckham over her seem one half of a split hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Neither is better than the other. But, Victoria is tolerable. You win. FUCK! It's not about winning, man; it's about getting down to the heart of the manner. I really like your posts, but they're so verbally dense that I honestly find it exhausting to parse them.
But maybe I was that way at your age, too. I'm too old to remember.  | |
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Ace said: Mysterioso said: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Neither is better than the other. But, Victoria is tolerable. You win. FUCK! It's not about winning, man; it's about getting down to the heart of the manner. I really like your posts, but they're so verbally dense that I honestly find it exhausting to parse them.
But maybe I was that way at your age, too. I'm too old to remember. Stream-of-consciousness. Wu-Tang Clan. Five Percenter. This sig is just a fig of your imago-neigh-shun | |
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Mysterioso said: Ace said: It's not about winning, man; it's about getting down to the heart of the manner. I really like your posts, but they're so verbally dense that I honestly find it exhausting to parse them.
But maybe I was that way at your age, too. I'm too old to remember. Stream-of-consciousness. Wu-Tang Clan. Five Percenter. That helps. | |
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Ace said: Mysterioso said: Stream-of-consciousness. Wu-Tang Clan. Five Percenter. That helps. It's haiku. You like? I know. This sig is just a fig of your imago-neigh-shun | |
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Mysterioso said: Ace said: That helps. It's haiku. You like? I know. Can you hip an old-timer to the meaning of "Five Percenter"? | |
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