JustErin said:

thank you ma'am

JustErin said:

thank you ma'am

JustErin said:

Same here. They really don't limit my physical activity, but trying to sleep on my stomach is a trick. I know that other women do have a lot of pain/movement issues, though. I'm just lucky I'm not one - I think it's because I'm a tall girl with a big frame and can handle the boobage. I think more petite women have a bigger challenge.

Even though I'm a guy, I have huge man-boobs. And so far, the have provided very little hindrance in any of my physical activities.
Oh, and ladies,
I know how to use 'em.

Why limit it to just comic books? The portrayal of women in just about every aspect of pop culture, particularly marketing, is pretty appalling. The Superbowl godaddy.com ads were particularly nauseating.

The Thing is.. Naturally big boobs weigh much more than fake one's and natural boobs move in a completely different way. If any of the ladies above had naturally large boobs D,E or F boobs they wouldnt be wrestling.. They wouldnt be able to as their boobs would get in the way. I have friends and family members who r E cup and above and they are forever complaining about backache, neckache and Bra discomfort..

Efan said:

Exactly. A real woman built like that would have difficulty even standing up straight. How's she supposed to be kicking bad'un ass?

meow85 said:

That's cool. I know a few women into them, but far more men, but I see it changing a lot, both with superhero books and with other types. You're right about Joker fangirlism and TDK--which is ironic, to me, because I consider Frank Miller one of the most misogynistic creators in comics (maybe THE most). But he tapped into something interesting with Dark Knight.

Efan said:

What doesn't work about Wonder Woman is that males generally aren't interested in books starring female superheroics and females aren't usually attracted to the superhero genre, if they're buying comics at all.

meow85 said:

"No. Not different. Only different in your mind." - Yoda

I love the way they look.

So maybe these female super heroes like having big massive implants, nothing wrong with that - no one is claiming their massive cans are real. Or maybe they want them because they're so lean and in such great shape they lose them due to having low body fat - like bodybuilders.

Either way, with this kinda thing who cares? It's stories about people with super powers, are people upset that their power portrayals are not real to life as well?

And I've never, ever had my boobs get in the way of anything.

The Thing is.. Naturally big boobs weigh much more than fake one's and natural boobs move in a completely different way. If any of the ladies above had naturally large boobs D,E or F boobs they wouldnt be wrestling.. They wouldnt be able to as their boobs would get in the way. I have friends and family members who r E cup and above and they are forever complaining about backache, neckache and Bra discomfort..


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Interesting topic...

I learned to read with comics... and I still do to this day.

I'll add that comics are all about exaggeration, aspiration and a fulfillment of fantasy. Men and women are typically drawn bigger than life.. with exceptions. There is no way to get around the sexual aspects of a woman's anatomy. However, men are drawn much more physically 'attractive' and virile than the average joe as well... but nobody complains about that..

The problem doesn't come from the comics... but rather the insecurities of people in general. As a whole... men are just not as insecure about their personal images as women are. Women will look at a comic heroine's body (or any other woman's body like a model for instance) and compare it to their own and get upset as they feel they don't 'stack up' favorably to the exaggerated proportions of the comic female. Men look at the handsome muscle bound guys in comics, sports and then their own bodies and simply say, "fuck it." And keep on reading.

Men view the fantasy as something they wish they could be. They feel that women would desire the big handsome hero who saves lives and are happy to lose themselves in that fantasy.

Women on the other hand, will also view the fantasy as something they may wish they could be...something men would be attracted to . But to them the fantasy becomes an object of envy.

The funniest thing about this subject is that there once was a time when women were indeed drawn with more 'realistic' proportions and such. But guess what.....

Women complained!

They felt that women in comics, including Wonder Woman, looked weak and helpless when compared to thier male counter parts. they also complained about the roles they portrayed as well. Artist began to draw the heroines in more 'powerful' proportions... but still wanted to keep their femininity. Face it... bigger broader shoulders with out the boobage.. is a literal drag. And that is not the image comic artist or anyone else wanted.

It wasn't until the ground breaking artist at Marvel comics and their philosophy of trying to make characters people could relate to on a more... 'human' level... that women and men characters of all body types were drawn and over the years have become the norm.

If you were to look at comics as a whole... you do have characters who are drawn 'powerful'... but you also have a hefty dose of women who aren't as exaggerated as well. As the artistry has continued to evolve... 'powerful' yet 'feminine' can exist with 'muscles'. Wonder Woman truly defines Amazon. She is tall... broad shouldered... has good muscle definition... and yes... boobies. Take away the boobies... and she would look like a long haired boy. Make them flat and our 'eyes' see less fit... less powerful.

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meow85 said:

This thread has really grown since I posted last.

I actually thought of Power Girl immediately after I logged off. As someone else already said, her bust size is a running joke in comics so she's supposed to be drawn that way. Not that that is an excuse, but it's the reasoning for her character's look in particular. And I agree Supergirl is always portrayed as waif-like. Wonder Girl too.

But my initial skepticism was because the female titles I read, Wonder Woman, Ms. Marvel and She Hulk, are drawn more realistic for the most part now so those were foremost in my mind when reading this thread:


cover of Wonder Woman #25, Oct. 2008


cover of Ms. Marvel #35, Jan. 2009


splash page from She-Hulk #37, Jan, 2009.

These are most likely exceptions to the rule.

and she has sensible shoes, good to see

great thread! i've always felt there aren't enough 'real' female role models...

JOYJOY said:

My sister wears a double G, and her ta-tas are natural. She can't wear certain clothes, can't run without extreme discomfort, can't lift things properly or hold something against her chest, can't hold both arms in front of her at the same time -to cross them or even just to clasp hands.

Unless all these female super-chicks have implants, they simply can not do well in a fight.

ZombieKitten said:

I could start a whole 'nother thread on what's wrong with the super-wimmin's footwear..

I get the whack-material factor. And don't get me wrong, I love high heels. I own over 20 pairs.

But why, oh why, if Batman and Nightwing and the Robin-of-the-week are wearing great big stompin' boots, is Batgirl sporting stilletos? That's just stupid.

meow85 said:

I'm nearly a 32H now, but I CAN do those things - has your sister been properly fitted? She may be way bigger and only buying GG cause that's all that's available

and if they have implants they are surely titanium anyway!

meow85 said:

does she ever take someone's eye out with them?

JustErin said:

You're one in a million, if that's true. You ever shoot a bow and arrow? Do that once and you'll understand why Amazonian warriors amputated their right breasts.

But why aren't super-women given any muscle? Why make them look like weak little things?

Fanboys want spank bank material. I get that. But why bother having female heroes at all? Why not just populate comic books with whores and sex kittens, if that's all female superheroes are for in the comicworld?

And yeah, I think this matters a lot. Just as much as women's portrayal in any form of media.

ZombieKitten said:

I could start a whole 'nother thread on what's wrong with the super-wimmin's footwear..

I get the whack-material factor. And don't get me wrong, I love high heels. I own over 20 pairs.

But why, oh why, if Batman and Nightwing and the Robin-of-the-week are wearing great big stompin' boots, is Batgirl sporting stilletos? That's just stupid.

ZombieKitten said:

I could start a whole 'nother thread on what's wrong with the super-wimmin's footwear..

I get the whack-material factor. And don't get me wrong, I love high heels. I own over 20 pairs.

But why, oh why, if Batman and Nightwing and the Robin-of-the-week are wearing great big stompin' boots, is Batgirl sporting stilletos? That's just stupid.

JustErin said:

Same here. They really don't limit my physical activity, but trying to sleep on my stomach is a trick. I know that other women do have a lot of pain/movement issues, though. I'm just lucky I'm not one - I think it's because I'm a tall girl with a big frame and can handle the boobage. I think more petite women have a bigger challenge.