JustErin said:

eg.
my grandma was no.14 out of 15
she remembers when she was little, she cried tears of joy because her father remembered her name

Vendetta1 said:

GetAwayFromMe said:

hokie said:

I knew I had heard it before.

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hokie said:

the oldest one just got married. i watch their TLC show. he didn't even kiss the girl until their wedding.

ehuffnsd said:

I know! I think they will keep having babies until they can't anymore.

Scary.

ZombieKitten said:

That's sad.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I know I sound like a broken record this week, but still...


I love you

I know folk get all crazed on individual/reproductive rights and stuff, but there seriously should be a limit to how many children one is allowed to pop out.

It's a huge misconception that kids ONLY affect the lives of those who have them.
[Edited 1/31/09 7:14am]

Awwwww, snap!

Grandma: Octuplets mom obsessed with having kids

LOS ANGELES – The woman who gave birth to octuplets this week conceived all 14 of her children through in vitro fertilization, is not married and has been obsessed with having children since she was a teenager, her mother said.

Angela Suleman told The Associated Press she was not supportive when her daughter, Nadya Suleman, decided to have more embryos implanted last year.

"It can't go on any longer," she said in a phone interview Friday. "She's got six children and no husband. I was brought up the traditional way. I firmly believe in marriage. But she didn't want to get married."

Nadya Suleman, 33, gave birth Monday in nearby Bellflower. She was expected to remain in the hospital for at least a few more days, and her newborns for at least a month.

A spokeswoman at Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center said the babies were doing well and seven were breathing unassisted.

While her daughter recovers, Angela Suleman is taking care of the other six children, ages 2 through 7, at the family home in Whittier, about 15 miles east of downtown Los Angeles.

She said she warned her daughter that when she gets home from the hospital, "I'm going to be gone."

Angela Suleman said her daughter always had trouble conceiving and underwent in vitro fertilization treatments because her fallopian tubes are "plugged up."

There were frozen embryos left over after her previous pregnancies and her daughter didn't want them destroyed, so she decided to have more children.

Her mother and doctors have said the woman was told she had the option to abort some of the embryos and, later, the fetuses. She refused.

Her mother said she does not believe her daughter will have any more children.

"She doesn't have any more (frozen embryos), so it's over now," she said. "It has to be."

Nadya Suleman wanted to have children since she was a teenager, "but luckily she couldn't," her mother said.

"Instead of becoming a kindergarten teacher or something, she started having them, but not the normal way," he mother said.

Her daughter's obsession with children caused Angela Suleman considerable stress, so she sought help from a psychologist, who told her to order her daughter out of the house.

"Maybe she wouldn't have had so many kids then, but she is a grown woman," Angela Suleman said. "I feel responsible and I didn't want to throw her out."

Yolanda Garcia, 49, of Whittier, said she helped care for Nadya Suleman's autistic son three years ago.

"From what I could tell back then, she was pretty happy with herself, saying she liked having kids and she wanted 12 kids in all," Garcia told the Long Beach Press-Telegram.

"She told me that all of her kids were through in vitro, and I said 'Gosh, how can you afford that and go to school at the same time?"' she added. "And she said it's because she got paid for it."

Garcia said she did not ask for details.

Nadya Suleman holds a 2006 degree in child and adolescent development from California State University, Fullerton, and as late as last spring she was studying for a master's degree in counseling, college spokeswoman Paula Selleck told the Press-Telegram.

Her fertility doctor has not been identified. Her mother told the Los Angeles Times all the children came from the same sperm donor but she declined to identify him.

Birth certificates reviewed by The Associated Press identify a David Solomon as the father for the four oldest children. Certificates for the other children were not immediately available.

The news that the octuplets' mother already had six children sparked an ethical debate. Some medical experts were disturbed to hear that she was offered fertility treatment, and troubled by the possibility that she was implanted with so many embryos.

Others worried that she would be overwhelmed trying to raise so many children and would end up relying on public support.

The eight babies — six boys and two girls — were delivered by Cesarean section weighing between 1 pound, 8 ounces and 3 pounds, 4 ounces. Forty-six physicians and staff assisted in the deliveries.

JayJai said:

I'm 23 also....I'm afraid of childbirth too..and that I might look like a pregnant teen....I'm also afraid I might lose my patience and do something crazy.

This story just ticks me off - 14 kids living in a three-bedroom house to a woman who obviously has mental issues. Of course the taxpayers will foot the bill for this idiot and her brood. Great. Her mother should have thrown her ass out of the house years ago. Disgraceful and irresponsible.

Hopefully, in the future, there'll be stricter laws against shit like this.

So, apparently, she was already on welfare before she had these new children.

GetAwayFromMe said:

Yep! And you know, the more children the more welfare.

Teacher said:

This is such bullshit!!! I don't want to pay for her, I have my own kids to pay for.

my great aunt and uncle had 12 kids, and a friend of mine in his early 40s was 17 of 18. but that was a in the 50-60s and they were farming families.

ehuffnsd said:

More farmhands.

How unfair it is to the children and her parents.

Selfish.

It sounds like this woman has some mental health issues. Does anyone know if they require a person to have some kind of mental health evaluation before doing something like this? I'm guessing not.

GetAwayFromMe said:

I know right? Now, I don't live in the US and I don't have kids, but as a tax payer I'd go HELL NO! It would be interesting if somebody followed up on this bitch, see how many kids she gets to keep, if any. How many will end up in foster care cause their mum is mental?

uPtoWnNY said:

i think that is the only positive thing from this story... it's BOUND to spark legistlation.
isn't it?


that fertility doctor should be made to help change diapers and put clothing on their backs.

lazycrockett said:

even for those families it was too much. your house was only so big and you only had so much food. if you were catholic you sent your older kids off to the convent to be raised by the nuns. my mom tells of a neighbor girl that died of tuberculosis in the convent on christmas day... her parents couldn't afford to go get her.

The stupidest thing is that this woman has 6 other children and is UNEMPLOYED and LIVES with her FAMILY who DO NOT SUPPORT her IDEA about having all these Children. I think it's CRAZY of the Drs in the first place. Some people want kids so much and someone like her is living with her family unemployed. So how is she going to Care for them? Is she MEGA RICH or is she gonna have them all live on WELFARE? This is so STUPID.

shanti0608 said:

first, i believe its quality, not quantity in all situations. i do emergency foster care and i have seen so many throw-away children that need a good home this makes me SICK! by the way is welfare paying for this because i bet she aint!

Apparently,she contacted Oprah and Diane Sawyer of ABC to grant them an interview for a reported 2 million each. The whoring of the children begins..

MRGee said:

but wait her family is no longer poor- she is going to the bank with this- it'll turn out to be a blessing because she can recieve these charitable gifts-endorsements and welfare.

what would you do for $4 million+?

This can't be good.

SilverlakePhil said:

This story is just getting worse and worse I TOTALLY believe social services should yank her kids from her.

SilverlakePhil said:

Please tell me this is a joke...