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PrintableNDRU said: Cinnie said: JustErin, I just love that you have the brains to write such concise letters. You've really got everything going for you!
I don't know if it was concise, but it was convincing Well, both... Summing up one's situation in a compelling body of words is difficult to edit/keep short I think. | |
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Airhorn...just sayin'
I kid!! Seriously Erin, try to hang in there. Try to live your life as comfortably as you can in the apartment you've paid to live in with just as much right as they paid to live in their's. If you are doing everything reasonably possible to be respectful to them, they are the one's with the problem. Hope it gets better for you!   I'm firmly planted in denial |
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Cinnie said: JustErin, I just love that you have the brains to write such concise letters. You've really got everything going for you!
 just not the neighbours...
You're a full week further. Did you inform for any legal help? | |
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I'm not making any recommendations...your people are elderly but I do want to tell you what I did to a younger tenant above me who liked to knock on my door over stupid shit but was loud herself at night. And get this...my husband's father owned the friggin building!!!
During the day, I put in some Jazz music with very heavy base (Myles Davis) turned our huge speakers to the wall. I put the stereo on continuous play, and then left the house and went to work and then my class. I knew I wasn't in violation of anything at the time...but when she finally did come knock on my door I told her not to complain over dumb shit or I would give her something to complain about. She left me alone after that...  Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian, any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. | |
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" I can't even have sex without them slamming away for God's sake. It's ridiculous. I could go on and on..."
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JustErin said: Well, I got a response. Have you heard back from this letter?
Hey Erin, I did speak to the folks upstairs and asked them not to bang on the floor if there is noise, which they will do. They asked me to communicate a couple things to you that hopefully will make things a little less tense. First the noise, they understand noise's during the day and the house isnt that sound proof, but if you could be careful with noise late at night. After 10:30 they are in bed and any noise in the house can wake them. Understanding that you can do as you need to in your own place, just to be aware. Also it seems that there is another dog left in the apt during the day with yours and the two dogs apparantly make quite a racket, not sure if this is the case and I know you are not home during the day. Anyway, I hope you both can try to do your parts to get along, it is not really something I can do anything about. I would just ask that each of you try to be considerate of the other and to avoid thinking the other is doing something out of spite so you have to return it. I am sure you both want to be happy in your own places. Thanks I was so pissed after I read it my response is a bit more emotional than the last one.
Hey xxxx, A couple of things. My son is in bed by 9pm so there is literally no real noise after that time. I do need to be quiet so he doesn't wake, so if it's quiet enough for him to sleep, I would guess that it's quiet enough for people living in another unit. As well, I hear them up walking around late into the night - or at least one of them so the claim that they are in bed by 10:30 is simply not true. The biggest shock to hear is that they claim that there are 2 dogs in my apartment. This is a flat out lie. I have my one little dog and he is confined to the kitchen and does bark when I am out. I have actually tested this to make sure that he is not a problem when I am not there. He used to bark for a couple of minutes when I left but we are in such a routine now that he just quietly goes into his bed when we leave. It is now very apparent to me that these people are not only being unreasonable but they are willing to lie to you to try and make it look like I am being disrespectful towards my neighbours. This is extremely discouraging to me. I want to make this very clear - there is simply nothing else I can do to make my home quieter to appease them. They have banged when I was simply talking in my living room at 10:45pm. So in order to make them happy, I am not supposed to have a conversation because they don't like to hear a slight murmur coming from downstairs while they are up as well? It's ridiculous and I am starting to lose patience with this whole situation. I feel like I now live in an old folk's home and that I just can't live my life there anymore because they want complete silence at all times. I have never retaliated in any way so even the slightest implication from you (or them) that I may do that is insulting to me. I also have never indicated that I thought they were doing things towards me in spite. They are just being very unreasonable with their expectations of me and my household. I will be monitoring this very closely and will probably start documenting this with video as it seems that this will be the only way to show you that they are being unreasonable. I'm also seeking legal advise on harassment issues. I do really hope that your talk with them wakes them up to the fact that I do not take this lightly and that they will be more respectful of the fact that they are not the only ones living in that house and that I do not need to abide by their rules. The last week has been fine and I certainly hope it continues that way. I know you're in a he said/she said situation at this point but I have been at this address for over a year now and have not heard about any complaints about me from you - even the new people never said anything to you until I complained about them. As well, I wanted to let you know that we are getting hammered with 25cm of snow today. I will need you to make arrangements to have the snow cleared so that I can park in the driveway tonight. You can certainly give me a call at any time to discuss these issues. Thanks Erin [Edited 1/28/09 7:50am] | |
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Yes, I had it out with my landlord on the phone last week. Basically he believed them and not me - even the shit about some stranger dropping off some mystery dog during the day. They also claimed a bunch of other stuff - like they shovel my driveway. Total lies. Totally ridiculous.
So guess what? When my father caught wind of all this he called him up and totally set him straight. Dude changed his tune with my dad. My dad told him that he once had a conversation with the old fucker upstairs who told him that he doesn't shovel and will not shovel because he has a heart condition. Remember, the landlord knows these people and would know this to be true - so how else would my dad know about it unless he was told? Lie busted. He also totally debunked the stupid dog thing and also made it very, VERY clear to him that I am not making any real noise in my place. And by the end of the conversation my landlord conceded and admitted that they were crusty old people who were miserable because they do nothing all day every day and are upset that they can't get outside at all because of the weather. It was awesome. Yes, I know that having daddy step in might not be the cool thing to do...but I seriously needed help in this. I haven't changed my behaviour at all and now my landlord is claiming that they say it's been much better.
Fucking idiots. | |
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JustErin said: Yes, I had it out with my landlord on the phone last week. Basically he believed them and not me - even the shit about some stranger dropping off some mystery dog during the day. They also claimed a bunch of other stuff - like they shovel my driveway. Total lies. Totally ridiculous.
So guess what? When my father caught wind of all this he called him up and totally set him straight. Dude changed his tune with my dad. My dad told him that he once had a conversation with the old fucker upstairs who told him that he doesn't shovel and will not shovel because he has a heart condition. Remember, the landlord knows these people and would know this to be true - so how else would my dad know about it unless he was told? Lie busted. He also totally debunked the stupid dog thing and also made it very, VERY clear to him that I am not making any real noise in my place. And by the end of the conversation my landlord conceded and admitted that they were crusty old people who were miserable because they do nothing all day every day and are upset that they can't get outside at all because of the weather. It was awesome. Yes, I know that having daddy step in might not be the cool thing to do...but I seriously needed help in this. I haven't changed my behaviour at all and now my landlord is claiming that they say it's been much better.
Fucking idiots. I like that you called your dad. I love calling my dad if I can because he enjoys having the opportunity to shield me sometimes even as an adult, because to him I'm always his little girl. Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian, any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. | |
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JustErin said: Yes, I had it out with my landlord on the phone last week. Basically he believed them and not me - even the shit about some stranger dropping off some mystery dog during the day. They also claimed a bunch of other stuff - like they shovel my driveway. Total lies. Totally ridiculous.
So guess what? When my father caught wind of all this he called him up and totally set him straight. Dude changed his tune with my dad. My dad told him that he once had a conversation with the old fucker upstairs who told him that he doesn't shovel and will not shovel because he has a heart condition. Remember, the landlord knows these people and would know this to be true - so how else would my dad know about it unless he was told? Lie busted. He also totally debunked the stupid dog thing and also made it very, VERY clear to him that I am not making any real noise in my place. And by the end of the conversation my landlord conceded and admitted that they were crusty old people who were miserable because they do nothing all day every day and are upset that they can't get outside at all because of the weather. It was awesome. Yes, I know that having daddy step in might not be the cool thing to do...but I seriously needed help in this. I haven't changed my behaviour at all and now my landlord is claiming that they say it's been much better.
Fucking idiots.  well done.....friggin idiots with nothing better to do .....hope thats the end of it for u hun | |
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