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mdiver said: mcmeekle said: Oh. Well that's my argument shot to fuck. As you were.....  Well not totally....i would support ANYONE over the Arse and Chelscum  With Scotland never qualifying for anything*, being an English Anti-Fan allows us to feel part of these big football tournaments. You shouldn't hold it against us. 
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mcmeekle said: mdiver said: Well not totally....i would support ANYONE over the Arse and Chelscum With Scotland never qualifying for anything*, being an English Anti-Fan allows us to feel part of these big football tournaments. You shouldn't hold it against us.
(* ...well, if you don't include the Kirin Cup! )
I still wish we had the home nations games  | |
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mdiver said: mcmeekle said: With Scotland never qualifying for anything*, being an English Anti-Fan allows us to feel part of these big football tournaments. You shouldn't hold it against us.
(* ...well, if you don't include the Kirin Cup! )
I still wish we had the home nations games The fewer games Scotland play the better....
But a poor football team is why we're in the process of elevating Murray to God Status. Until he gets too successful that is. Then we can all, as one united Britain, hate him equally.  |
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mcmeekle said: mdiver said:
I still wish we had the home nations games The fewer games Scotland play the better....
But a poor football team is why we're in the process of elevating Murray to God Status. Until he gets too successful that is. Then we can all, as one united Britain, hate him equally. 
Ok i wasn't totally honest.....i will support him despite his roots, i can rise above it | |
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mdiver said: mcmeekle said: The fewer games Scotland play the better....
But a poor football team is why we're in the process of elevating Murray to God Status. Until he gets too successful that is. Then we can all, as one united Britain, hate him equally.
Ok i wasn't totally honest.....i will support him despite his roots, i can rise above it In his defence I think his original comment was meant to be light-hearted. But it means Henman Hill will never be re-named. Murray Mound sounds shit anyway. |
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mcmeekle said: mdiver said:
Ok i wasn't totally honest.....i will support him despite his roots, i can rise above it In his defence I think his original comment was meant to be light-hearted. But it means Henman Hill will never be re-named. Murray Mound sounds shit anyway. Mound  | |
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mcmeekle said: mdiver said:
Ok i wasn't totally honest.....i will support him despite his roots, i can rise above it In his defence I think his original comment was meant to be light-hearted. But it means Henman Hill will never be re-named. Murray Mound sounds shit anyway. And Murray will never be as great to watch as Henman was. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: mcmeekle said: In his defence I think his original comment was meant to be light-hearted. But it means Henman Hill will never be re-named. Murray Mound sounds shit anyway. And Murray will never be as great to watch as Henman was. Henman was/is as his name - bland and boring to watch. A true Englishman - never show feelings, or rather never HAVE feelings.  | |
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Federer from 2 sets down wins. What a legend! | |
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mynameisnotsusan said: Federer from 2 sets down wins. What a legend!
Puhlease - what's this, 3rd round? | |
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mynameisnotsusan said: Federer from 2 sets down wins. What a legend!
¡¡¡¡¡¡Ai!!!!! I missed this match!!!!! 
I went to the site. Roger was so emotional. I cannot believe he was two sets down even. Roger is so.. great, really. If it weren't for Rafa, my favorite would be Roger. Has this ever happened before--that Roger was two sets down and then came back? Oh, I am nervous for Rafa. I think he plays today. Gonzo has been playing so well. I'm going to go back to the site to see Roger's interview. I'll post it here if I can find it. Here is the interview from the Australian Open Official Site: Q. How tough was that today?
ROGER FEDERER: Well, it was difficult, because the opponent was dangerous and tough and playing well, I thought. He put me under a lot of pressure, but thank God I was able to react, you know. He doesn't give you that many chances, so I was happy. I hung in there. Q. At the end the second set, did you sit at your chair and think, Surely he can't keep playing as well as he's playing? His standard was so good. ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, it was excellent. I didn't think I played a whole a lot worse later on, I was just able to play better and get a bit more length in my shots. I gave him an easy break in the first game and I never really recovered from that. I was kind of under pressure for a set. I should have held my break, and then things would have been maybe a bit different. But letting him come back into the match in the second set, that kind of put me under quite a lot of pressure. Then, obviously, in the breaker he played good tennis. You know, he was really aggressive, especially off the second serve as well. Seemed like every corner he wanted to hit, he got it. He was playing excellent. To kind of weather the storm against him, it's not easy to do. Once I got serving and moving and playing better, I was able to turn it around. So that was nice. Q. Did the seventh game of the third set turn it around? ROGER FEDERER: What happened there? Q. He had five game points and three shots I could have made, but not at that situation. ROGER FEDERER: I mean, I don't quite remember anymore what happened. I remember I was against the wind and to get the break then was crucial. I think he was maybe up 40‑Love on that game. Anyway, I came back and I guess that really gave me momentum. I kind of never looked back. Q. Did you feel flat at all in the beginning or did he just make you look like that? ROGER FEDERER: Yeah. That would be him. No, I mean, I was feeling fine. I just had a bad start. I think if I would have maybe been only broken once in the first set, I think I could have challenged him a bit more. He served it out well at 5‑4. And being down two breaks against such a good player, that's not going to be enough. That was my problem. Once you start running behind against a player who can take such huge cuts at the ball, he was only getting more and more confident and that made that really, really difficult for me to find rhythm. Yeah, it was tough for me today. I found a way. I'm very happy about my performance in the end. Q. Since the Olympics, is there always a bit of a feeling that this guys goes crazy and it's going to be very, very tough? ROGER FEDERER: This guy? Q. Berdych goes crazy and has a fantastic match it's going to be very tough for you or anybody. ROGER FEDERER: The Olympics, yeah, way back. No, I mean, yeah, I mean, I know the danger of playing Tomas. He's top 3, top 5 guy with most powerful shots in the game. You combine serve, forehand and backhand, it's incredible how he ‑‑ the pace he gets with little effort. That's why he's dangerous. Still in the fifth even though he looks like he's beaten. You have to be so careful. Even the last game you saw it. I make one stupid mistake and then all of a sudden he can hit three screamers. I know the danger of playing Tomas. I wish he was higher up in the rankings so you don't have to play him that early. I think today he showed why he could be a wonderful player. Q. Did you see a scouting report, because he seemed to be more in control when he played Stan the other night than he used to be in the past? ROGER FEDERER: No, I didn't speak to Stan. Q. You were extremely satisfied to come back from two sets to love down. ROGER FEDERER: Sure, it's great satisfaction. Doesn't happen every day. I don't play five setters every day so it's a very nice feeling. I guess especially coming back from two sets to love when you feel like everything is going your way in the end and the other guy is all of a sudden under pressure, you know, after you felt this way for one and a half, two hours, then to be able to turn it around and then be leading all of a sudden is a great feeling. I was feeling still fresh if the fifth. I think you could see it. That's kind of the way I want to feel in a fifth set. That's why I worked hard. I worked hard for this victory today. This is great. Q. What is your sense of anticipation for the second week here? I think from the neutral looking at it, it's got the makings of probably one of the most exciting second weeks of a Grand Slam for a long time, with the matchups and players and what have you and the levels they're reaching. Do you sense that as well? ROGER FEDERER: Well, I mean, yeah, maybe. You know, you can make something up. But I think you're concentrating on your own section of the draw, and my next opponent is Del Potro now. I've only played him once and he played great at the Open. He almost beat Andy in the end in the quarters. I mean, that was really close and both were looking very tired. Who knows what would have happened in the fifth. No, think it's going to be a nice match for me playing him. Like you said, I think there's many, many seeded guys around still, which makes it like we have great matchups. I think the only guy not seeded is Marcos now, but he's been in the finals here before. Q. What do you think about Hawk‑Eye? ROGER FEDERER: What do I think about it? It's horrible. I don't like it, no. Q. Why? ROGER FEDERER: Because Tomas doesn't like it since today. Finally one guy understood. Look, it's there to be used. I don't care. But if I get a good or bad challenge, you know, I'd rather challenge too much and not have them left. But I don't think you win or lose a match because of them. If it's 9‑All in the fifth set, you know, you got to use it and there's a terrible call because the linesperson was sleeping and the umpire was drinking coffee, of course then it's good you have it. But, God, you have four eyes looking at every line. You could really mess up. Yeah, the ball Tomas was questioning was out. But still, a system like this is in place it shouldn't happen, right? That could be the crucial moment for Tomas. It wasn't because it was clearly out. Still, it's not so much fun for him, I guess. Q. What do you think about the last six months of Del Potro? ROGER FEDERER: Well, I mean, he's had a great run after Wimbledon was it? I think he won four tournaments in a row: Two on clay and two on hard court, I think. Yeah, kind of out of the blue. They were not the biggest tournaments in the world, but still, he was able to dominate some good players. I think he beat Roddick and other players like Tommy Haas. On hard court, that's a great effort. Then he backed it up by playing well at the Open. For a young guy to cope with the pressure and make it to the Masters in the end, I think, was a great effort from his side. So I think he's done really, really well. It's going to be an interesting match for me. I'm excited playing against him. Q. You said that after three and a half hours you were still fresh and fit. There's a lot made of Murray and Nadal's fitness. Do you feel you're as fit as these guys? ROGER FEDERER: Yeah. I mean, I've played five hours against Rafa on clay and against other players as well. These kind of tests don't come around very often. I had a time in my career I hardly played five‑setters, like for two or three years, so I didn't know why where I was until all of a sudden that crazy match with Safin here in 2005. Then I knew where I was. I was in pain because of my feet. That was a different issue. It's good to have five‑setters to see where you're at. I don't know how fit Murray is. I'll take him on any day in a five‑setter. He's younger so he's probably not so experienced, you know. In the end it becomes very mental, and I know that this is where my biggest strengths always comes into play. That's why I'm always going to favor myself in a fifth set. Q. Today when you were two sets down, is there a little bit of panic that comes, or do you start to ever to say to yourself, I'm in trouble? ROGER FEDERER: I don't know what I feel. I wasn't thinking of losing, that's for sure. The finish line was still very far for Tomas. I knew that. You can still concentrate on playing just the points instead of thinking, Oh, my God, what's going to happen? I didn't feel that way. I kind of felt after a terrible first set from my side that if I probably want to win this it's going to go to five sets. I just felt it. I knew Tomas was dangerous, and if I played even still a great set or three great sets it's probably not going to happen. He would squeeze one great set in there somewhere, second, third, or fourth. That's why I kind of was prepared for five from the start. I think that's what made me be so determined towards the end. It was nice being in a battle with him. It was fair play. It was tough, good tennis towards the end. I believed in it all the way, and I think that was key in the end. [Edited 1/25/09 5:14am] | |
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AlexdeParis said: mcmeekle said: In his defence I think his original comment was meant to be light-hearted. But it means Henman Hill will never be re-named. Murray Mound sounds shit anyway. And Murray will never be as great to watch as Henman was. Sorry if I've misled you. I was talking about TIM Henman. The tennis player. Not sure which Henman you're talking about?  |
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See Andy Murray, you can tell he was born in Glasgow.
He's a torn faced wee bastard with a "What the fuck are you looking at?" look plastered on his face most of the time. Lots of money, sex with girls so far out of your league if you weren't a tennis star and all the fame and glory in the world will not put a smile on his face On yerself Andy boy! “If I can shoot rabbits/then I can shoot fascists” | |
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Teacher said: AlexdeParis said: And Murray will never be as great to watch as Henman was. Henman was/is as his name - bland and boring to watch. A true Englishman - never show feelings, or rather never HAVE feelings.  Tim Henman was an absolute joy to watch. It's hard to smile when the weight of a whole damn country is on your shoulders. The fickle English fans never deserved someone as great as Tim. Great hands, great volleyer, great heart, great player."Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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Adios, Andy Murray! "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: Adios, Andy Murray!
And Rafa won! Yay! He won pretty easily, too! Oh.. this is funny.. I'll come back and post it. Andy Roddick and Serena have this little back and forth going on. Apparently, when they were young, Serena beat Andy in tennis! LOL She never lets him forget it either. It' so funny. From the main Australian Open site, under interviews: Part of Andy Roddick interview from 1-25-09: Q. You were on Serena's website as one of her best all‑time wins. Can you clarify that for us? ANDY RODDICK: Yes, I can, unfortunately. She always just gives me crap. Ask her about it. But she won't give me a rematch. I saw her yesterday, and she walked on the court and started laughing because she knew I had probably seen it. I said, It wasn't fair. When we were ten, I had to literally run around in the shower to get wet. I was this big. She was bench pressing dump trucks already at that time. I told her that yesterday, and she got a good laugh. Any chance she gets she just does it to get under my skin, and she does it very successfully. But, you know, however many some odd Wimbledon titles and they're like, What's your best match? I have a win over Andy Roddick. She forgets to mention that it was 1993. Q. So a charity rematch might be in the cards? ANDY RODDICK: I'd love to. Tell her to do it. Q. She thinks now she's beaten everyone you've beaten. ANDY RODDICK: Oh, yeah. She sat me down for five minutes yesterday and was going through her indirect wins. She was pretty excited. She didn't know I had two wins over Pete, so she was excited about that also. I wish I could deny it, but I would be lying if I tried to. Q. Was it 6‑4 or 6‑1? ANDY RODDICK: The score gets better for her also. She's good at not letting the truth get in the way of a good story sometimes. I think it was 6‑4. Q. Explain your relationship with Legardère. Are you going to be training there? ANDY RODDICK: No. I mean, he has a lot of entities. I think a lot of people are focusing on the tennis side of it. He has 250 some odd companies, so you can choose one if you want. I'm impressed by what he's done over in France. I'm not training in France. I think you guys know better than that. But I'm intrigued. He's gone at it almost like a Formula One team. I think it would be interesting to try something like that in the States. I don't know how farfetched that is, but he loves tennis. I think the more you get guys who are passionate about the game and can probably do something about it, the better. Q. It's a commercial relationship at this point? ANDY RODDICK: Yes. Q. Is there any advantage of spending just over a week on the outside courts? ANDY RODDICK: Any advantage, or... Q. Or disadvantage? ANDY RODDICK: I don't know. It's a court. It's still the same game and same dimensions. I don't know if there is much of an advantage or disadvantage. Maybe if I had never played on Rod Laver you would want to get in there before you played a quarterfinal. But I've played there a ton, day, night. It should be fine. Q. Do you have any history with Venus? ANDY RODDICK: No. She was way too good. I couldn't even be on the same court. It's great. I always enjoy seeing them do well. For literally about two and a half, three years we had three courts in Florida, and it was me, Serena and Venus. Q. Where was that? ANDY RODDICK: In Delray Beach there. It was pretty cool. We just spent hours and hours out there just playing. We all have done pretty well, and all three of those little kids out there got to No. 1, which is pretty cool. I'm just happy for them. They're good girls. It's nice. Q. The national tennis center? ANDY RODDICK: Yeah. Q. With Rick? ANDY RODDICK: Yeah. Q. Clay court, bad weather, bad wind? The day you played Serena. ANDY RODDICK: All of the above. Yeah. Q. How do you think Serena will feel when you say she was lifting dump trucks? ANDY RODDICK: I didn't say lifting, I said bench pressing, which is a testament to her strength. Don't twist it.Q. What are the rewards of that kind of a change? ANDY RODDICK: I don't know. I've never done it. And now here's Serena's response on 1/26/09: Q. Obviously good early on beating Andy Roddick when he was 10 years old. Any hopes of a charity rematch?
SERENA WILLIAMS: I don't think it's necessary to have a rematch. You know, I won. I was clearly the better player. I beat Roddick, you know. Andy Roddick, yeah (smiling). There's really no need to have a rematch. It's unimportant [sic] now. Q. The score speaks for itself. What was the score? SERENA WILLIAMS: 6‑1. The score absolutely speaks for itself. He always jokes, Rematch, rematch. But I don't even have time for a rematch (smiling). Q. What was Andy like as a 10‑year‑old kid? Was he a brat or a good kid? SERENA WILLIAMS: You know, he was a sweetheart. He was so sweet and he was so small. His older brother played really good tennis, John Roddick. He was always John Roddick's younger brother. I was kind of Venus' younger sister. I just remember he was a really sweet kid. You know, he could never really beat me (laughter). Q. The latest chapter in the Dokic drama unfolded last night. Did you see it? SERENA WILLIAMS: Of course, I did. Like I said, I am really so happy for her. I'm really rooting for her to go far. Obviously, if I make it, I don't want her to win. But I really am rooting for her to go as far as she can in this tournament because I really think she has a chance to do extremely well. Hopefully she can be motivated by what I did when I was ranked in the 80s. I think it's just an amazing story. I'm so happy for her. Q. How do you see the Safina matchup? SERENA WILLIAMS: She has nothing to lose. That's when people are so dangerous, when they have nothing to lose. That's a great position to be in. Q. You saw Jelena during her so‑called "prime years." Looks like now she hasn't lost her ball‑striking ability. SERENA WILLIAMS: No. She looks just like the player she was back whenever it was. I just remember her, she always had a decent serve and more or less two first serves. I was noticing when she was playing, looks like the same Jelena. That's really good to see, that she didn't lose any of her game or her fighting spirit. It's awesome. Q. We've seen when you haven't felt that comfortable off the ground, your serve has carried you through majors. Can the reverse happen? SERENA WILLIAMS: Absolutely. And I decided today that I wasn't losing serve anymore. You know, I was down 40‑15 a few times, I was able to come back. So I had made up my mind that I was going to be able to win with or without a serve, even if I had to just not serve, I was going to have to just do better. Q. If you don't want to play Andy in a charity match, maybe a dump‑truck‑pressing contest? SERENA WILLIAMS: Pardon? Q. Did you hear about the dump‑truck‑pressing comment he made? SERENA WILLIAMS: Andy's always exaggerating. I was so small for my age. He was small, too. But he just got jealous because my body was more fit and that my biceps are probably still bigger than his (laughter). Andy is incredibly jealous of me. You know, I just don't know why. I can't blame him really (smiling). Q. His exact comment was that, at the time he had to run around in the shower to get wet while you were bench pressing dump trucks. SERENA WILLIAMS: Again, I'll have to talk to him, because he clearly didn't have to run around. He wasn't that thin. Andy's a fit guy. Like I said, he was always trying to get muscles like mine, get more developed. I guess it still hasn't happened yet (laughter). Q. Can you imagine Jim Morrison from the Doors is still alive, would you like to sing a song with him? SERENA WILLIAMS: I can play a guitar. Q. Bass guitar? SERENA WILLIAMS: No, six string. I'm really good at playing the guitar. See, there's a lot of stuff that I do. Q. Do you do windows? SERENA WILLIAMS: I'm an HP girl, Hewlett Packard. Q. Washing windows. SERENA WILLIAMS: Oh, windows (laughter)? I thought it was a trick question. No. I was a Green Day fanatic. I kind of stifled my learning because I wanted to play power chords, like really hardcore rock. So I wasn't as good at playing like Led Zeppelin. I did start playing some Jimi Hendricks. But I was a power chord punk rock. I was really into punk rock. Q. What kind of guitar do you have? SERENA WILLIAMS: I have a Gibson Stratocast, baby blue. Baby blue because Billie Joe Armstrong had a baby blue one. He was my role model. Q. Andy Roddick has been in the top 10 for seven straight years. I know you can appreciate that consistency. Can you talk about him as a competitor. SERENA WILLIAMS: Well, he's clearly a great competitor. You know, Andy influenced me. I think a couple years ago he wasn't playing his best tennis. The guy never gave up. He was at every event, playing every tournament. He never lost confidence. That actually motivated me at that point to do well. I was able to win some tournaments after watching his spirit and competitiveness. I never told him that, but he definitely did influence me to do better and to work harder. So I think he's a great competitor. Too bad he can't beat some women players, but nonetheless he's pretty good (smiling). Q. Will you watch his match against Djokovic? Or because he's your friend, does he get too emotionally draining? SERENA WILLIAMS: No, I always watch. I'm always rooting as hard as I can for Andy. I think he's playing well, so hopefully he'll be able to pull through. Q. Would you like to play mixed doubles with him? SERENA WILLIAMS: Oh, that would be great. All I would have to do is stand and he serves every time. [Edited 1/26/09 6:46am] | |
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AlexdeParis said: Adios, Andy Murray!
He's emulating Henman, getting knocked out early..... |
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mcmeekle said: AlexdeParis said: Adios, Andy Murray!
He's emulating Henman, getting knocked out early..... Henman made the semifinals of the other 3 slams besides the Australian (including Wimbledon 4 times). Murray has only been to the semifinals of 1 (last year's U.S. Open, although he did make it to the final). He's a long way away from emulating Henman. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: mcmeekle said: He's emulating Henman, getting knocked out early..... Henman made the semifinals of the other 3 slams besides the Australian (including Wimbledon 4 times). Murray has only been to the semifinals of 1 (last year's U.S. Open, although he did make it to the final). He's a long way away from emulating Henman. He's already better than Tim the Tit Murray is 21 They're both diffident public school oiks anyway, so fuck them both. fuck them in the ear “If I can shoot rabbits/then I can shoot fascists” | |
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lascantas said: Q. What kind of guitar do you have? SERENA WILLIAMS: I have a Gibson Stratocast, baby blue. Baby blue because Billie Joe Armstrong had a baby blue one. He was my role model.  My Legacy
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AlexdeParis said: Teacher said: Henman was/is as his name - bland and boring to watch. A true Englishman - never show feelings, or rather never HAVE feelings. Tim Henman was an absolute joy to watch. It's hard to smile when the weight of a whole damn country is on your shoulders. The fickle English fans never deserved someone as great as Tim. Great hands, great volleyer, great heart, great player.Pffffft... whole weight of a country? It's sports, not running a country. | |
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Teacher said: AlexdeParis said: Tim Henman was an absolute joy to watch. It's hard to smile when the weight of a whole damn country is on your shoulders. The fickle English fans never deserved someone as great as Tim. Great hands, great volleyer, great heart, great player.Pffffft... whole weight of a country? It's sports, not running a country. You know what I meant. Although, on some level, it would seem they demanded more of Tim than any of their elected leaders... "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: Teacher said: Pffffft... whole weight of a country? It's sports, not running a country. You know what I meant. Although, on some level, it would seem they demanded more of Tim than any of their elected leaders... Yeah I know. And you're right - they expected consistency where none can be found in government. Sad.
I still don't like him.   | |
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Teacher said: AlexdeParis said: You know what I meant. Although, on some level, it would seem they demanded more of Tim than any of their elected leaders... Yeah I know. And you're right - they expected consistency where none can be found in government. Sad.I'd argue he gave them consistency, but they expected otherworldly excellence. As much as I absolutely love Tim as a player, let's be honest: he was nowhere near the league of, say, Pete Sampras. His serve wasn't great and his groundstrokes were ordinary at best. His only 2 world-class assets were his hands and his speed. No one familiar with tennis would ever argue that he underachieved; actually, he was probably one of tennis's all-time greatest overachievers. To get to #4 in the world, 6 slam semifinals, a silver medal in doubles, and be one rain delay away from the Wimbledon final... it's unreasonable and downright disrespectful to not be satisfied with that... especially considering the shape of British tennis before he arrived. I still don't like him.
A lot of people don't. I love the guy. To this day, I regret not leaving a conversation mid-sentence for the chance to meet him."Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: mcmeekle said: He's emulating Henman, getting knocked out early..... Henman made the semifinals of the other 3 slams besides the Australian (including Wimbledon 4 times). Murray has only been to the semifinals of 1 (last year's U.S. Open, although he did make it to the final). He's a long way away from emulating Henman. Not really fair comparing a post-career Henman to an early-career Murray, but who cares about that anyway. British Tennis sucks. Stupid game.  |
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NDRU said: lascantas said: Q. What kind of guitar do you have? SERENA WILLIAMS: I have a Gibson Stratocast, baby blue. Baby blue because Billie Joe Armstrong had a baby blue one. He was my role model. she obviously had it custom-made! | |
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ZombieKitten said: NDRU said: she obviously had it custom-made!
I want a Puke Green Yamaha Les Paul then!  | |
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Amaxx said: ZombieKitten said: she obviously had it custom-made!
I want a Puke Green Yamaha Les Paul then! I would like a Fender Bender | |
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ZombieKitten said: Amaxx said:
I want a Puke Green Yamaha Les Paul then! I would like a Fender Bender Oooooo! What colour?????  | |
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Amaxx said: ZombieKitten said: I would like a Fender Bender Oooooo! What colour????? silver, with a cappucino maker built-in | |
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