SCNDLS said:

I'm not saying that TO is totally to blame, but if your concern (as the article suggests) is team chemistry, he has a proven track record of being counterproductive to that end. We shouldn't even know that he has an issue with Romo and Witten. You handle that stuff in-house like a man, not thru whiny fits to the media and sideline tamtrums. If he'll clown like that in full view of the world, you can only imagine how he carries himself behind closed doors.

Graycap23 said:

It's no coincidence that Philly went on a winning streak when TO got hurt, and then when TO came back, they lost the Super Bowl. Who was the best player on the field that game? How about the man that GOT the ball to TO? And all TO could do was take potshots at McNabb after the game. Who knows what kind of shit TO was stirring DURING the game?

TO is a whiny little man, and you've played enough team sports to know that there is no "I" in "team".

RodeoSchro said:

True.....but there is an "I" in win, he T.O. wants 2 win.

Graycap23 said:

But at the expense of his teammates, to which they then end up NOT winning. He defeats his own purpose.

MuthaFunka said:

I have a feeling that his teamates don't have the same view as the public.

Cowboys can win with Roy as the #1 receiver. Now, according to reports I hear on WFAN, Jerry Jones son is looking into cutting T.O., so stay tuned.

Graycap23 said:

You sure about that? Ask Jeff Garcia. Ask McNabb. Ask Hugh Douglas (who admitted they had fisticuffs in the lockerroom one day). And NOW, ask Romo and Witten.

Dude, it CAN'T just be the "media" in THIS case. Why did the Eagles suspend him and ban him from their facilities? Was that the media's doing?

uPtoWnNY said:

If so, Uncle Al will then have a WR corp of:

T.O.
Chad O
Plax

MuthaFunka said:

Let's see, that is 4 players out of 106 that he played with on those 2 teams.

Graycap23 said:

And? It's four KEY PLAYERS on the teams - An LB, a TE, and ALL of his QBs. It ain't like he's getting into it with the freakin' PUNTER! LOL!

MuthaFunka said:

and.....there is not a single player in the pro's that won't have people saying things aboutthem.....after they have left a team. Hell, Jordan had teammates that HATED him as well.

Graycap23 said:

And yet MJ never had chemistry issues and he won 6 titles. What has T.O. won? Nothing. Nada. Zelch. Goose egg. That's the difference: T.O. tears teams up at his OWN expense.

MuthaFunka said:

I hear what u are saying.....I just don't agree.

Graycap23 said:

Apparently neither does T.O.

Graycap23 said:

Everyone wants to win, but I think T.O. has other priorities that supercede his desire to win.

MuthaFunka said:

I will take T.O. on my team.....anyday.

Graycap23 said:

Good luck.

Graycap23 said:

I guess you don't like winning anything significant then.

T.O has talent, but the problems he causes, the chemistry on teams are deystroyed by what he does overshadows and eliminate the contributions he makes on the field.

I am a long time huge 49er fan and the difference between T.O. and Jerry Rice (the greatest receiver ever IMHO) is huge.....not necesarily talent wise, but over all. I have seen them both play and develope and take two very distinctive paths with their talents.

There is a reason why Jerry Rice has three Super Bowl rings and T.O. has zero.

That is THEE only inarguable declaration in ALL of sports. NO ONE has EVER disputed that and I don't think ANY sane person will. EVERYONE agrees that J.R. is the GWROAT.

MuthaFunka said:

Neither Romo nor Witten have said anything negative about him.
[Edited 1/16/09 11:20am]

MuthaFunka said:

Amen!!!!

I got to meet Jerry Rice one time and he was very gracious, humble and considerate. And his work ethic on and off the field was impeccable. You never heard a complaint about him or from him. He was/is always the ultimate professional and his success and three rings are his reward for doing things the right way.

T.O. was kind of in the same mold when he first came up, but soon after Jerry Rice left the 49ers, T.O. started to change and has been getting worse and worse ever since.

SCNDLS said:

Publicly...no they haven't.

Sowhat said:

If it's as bad as you say, why not??? It never stopped others.

Sowhat said:

lol....that reason is Joe Montana & Bill Walsh.
A receiver is USELESS without a quality QB & Offensive cooridinator.

On the bolded part: Have u seen the Bears?

Sowhat said:

Have you met TO in the last 5 years??? If not, have you heard anyone on the street say that they didn't like him??? Ask that journalist that got ran over in front of him if TO is a dick???

SCNDLS said:

I have never met T.O. I have heard several people on the streets say they don't like him. I have also heard many Pro Football players say they don't like him either.

Bottom line T.O. is selfish and distrupts a teams chemistry.

Sowhat said:

It is and should be about PRODUCTION on the field.

Graycap23 said:

Only?

Have you ever met a professional athlete who discounted the importance of a team concept and chemistry? I haven't.

violator said:

All of that plays a role, but the reality is, u must produce when your number is called. It is as simple as that.

Graycap23 said:

T.O. has played with some very good teams and QB's on the 49ers (after Walsh, Montanta, Young), Philly and Dallas and has not won anything.