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If you know your hormones have an effect on your moods and you know this roller coaster ride happens monthly, why can't you accept it/acknowledge it for what it is? To clarify, if it makes you crabby (the pain alone would make me crabby) or irritable, just say "this isn't about you but I'm really on a short fuse today, keep your distance". Rather than thinking guys are just being assholes by mentioning it when we have to endure what seems like crazy-bitch mode in silence. It would really make everyone's lives easier with a little communication. Other than that, I get why women are like they are and that's why I love them. I really love my wife but I love all women. Their subtle differences and their perspective as women to babies, puppies and warm fuzzy things make me want to give them a hug. Some, fuck the hell out of but that's another conversation... [Edited 1/16/09 9:15am] | |
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SirPsycho said: WHY, AT TIMES, IS A MAN EXPECTED TO READ A WOMANS MIND (SEE: "YOU SHOULD JUST KNOW") IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN A "GOOD" RELATIONSHIP?? AND WHY DO WOMEN HOLD ON TO SOMETHING THEIR MAD ABOUT UNTIL THEY EXPLODE? INSTEAD OF SPEAKING UP WHEN THEY FIRST FEEL/FEL UNCOMFORTABLE?
ALSO, WHY IS IT WHEN WOMEN GET OLD (THO I KNOW A FEW YOUND WOMEN WHO DO THIS) YOU CANT GET THEM TO SIT DOWN? BOTH MY MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER WILL WASH DISHES, COOK GREENS, MOP THE FLOOR, MOVE FUNITURE, ETC. ETC. ON A DAY WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE RELAXING- ALL THE WHILE CURSING TO THE HEAVENS ABOUT HOW "THEY WISH THEY DIDNT HAVE TO DO THIS SHIT" EX: (1) MY GRANDMOTHER WOULD NOT SIT DOWN TO EAT AT THANKSGIVIN, EVEN THO THE REST OF THE FAM WAS SERVING THEMSELVES AND EACH OTHER SHE HAD TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD BUTTER FOR THEIR ROLL, AND CHECK TO MAKE SURE THE GRAVY LADELS MACHED THE BOWLS... 
(2) MY MOTHER [ON CHRISTMAS] WOULD NOT JUST SIT AND ENJOY OPENING HER PRESENTS, SHE HAAAAD TO -WATER THE PLANTS -CHANGE LIGHTBULBS ...YOU GET THE PICTURE...NOT SAYING THIS STUFF DOESNT HAVE TO BE DONE...BUT IT COULD'VE WAITED, AND THEY DEF COULD'VE RELAXED I'm going to state the obvious for the last part of your questions. BECAUSE A MAN DIDN'T STEP-UP AND TAKE CONTROL OF THE SITUATION SO HER MIND COULD LET THEM GO. It's like having a list of things to do and you're the only one doing them for years by your self. It doesn't matter that it's Christmas, things need to get done. The next time this happens, say "look, I'll do it. You sit, I'll water the plants, I'll change the light bulbs". Of course after years of doing this she'll fight you, it has to be done "her way" but then point out the logic in light0buld replacement "her way" and get a good laugh but then STEP UP AND CHANGE THE LIGHTBULBS. Her mind has the list the list that needs to get done. | |
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Vendetta1 said: SirPsycho said:  no...and honestly i prefer an answer like this then the usual...
AND ...i do realize how- not being aware of any successful marriages- can taint ones optimism about the whole concept and institution... but, doesnt that say more about the parties invovled then the institution itself? (i pose this to my girlfriend all the time, or at least- i did...until she caught the bouquet and had some sort of "chance of heart" about the matter  )
i dont know too many working marraiges either...including my parents, but i just believe they're all LAZY including my parents like seriously, why not just admit you (general you, not you stymie) dont wanna put in the effort to make marriage work? ...i just thing its easy to blame the contract that both parts consentually agreed to fuck that shit. I am not interested in "working" to keep a marraige going. I do not want to argue. I do not want to fight. I do not want any drama. When people say marriage is hard, it's not a ringing endorsement to me. Keep that. My life is hard enough as it is. When I think of spending my life with the one I love, I think of marrying my best friend. I think of working out the kinks in the beginning so there is no "I can't stand the way that motherfucker brushes his teeth" later. so much of the stuff I hear about is one partner using a secret the other tells them as ammo. No fucking way. See, it's not "work" when you can change your perspective once in a while. Life is "work" everyday, just getting out of bed is work some days. Arguing, fighting, heated discussions are all ways to communicate what you want. When one person doesn't listen or says "fuck what you want" then you have the beginning of the end. That's where the "work" comes to play. Listening, paying attention when you'd rather be doing something else, making an effort when you'd rather be lazy. No 2 people are exactly the same and these things, along with having perspective of why you love the person is what it's all about. If you agree to be with someone for life, it's all or nothing. Compromise is part of the deal, she wants me to do this once in a while when I've never done that, sure. I want her to modify her behavior and clean-up a little more after herself, sure. It's not someone is trying to change you by saying "wear these clothes and your hair like this". That's a controling asshole, I'm talking about the little shit that doesn't matter, like keeping the toliet seat down. If this little act makes her a little happier, it's not like I'm changing who I am. Your example of "hey quit brushng your teeth like that" is when perspective, love and patience is out the window. At this point, why you're together in the first place and "love" has got little to do with it. These people quit communicating (if they ever did) years ago and now their together because of kids or other reasons. Working the kinks out in the beginning is a joke because you're still high on all of the things you love about each other. Too high to see everything else. That's when you're dealing with the shit you never saw before does perspective come in. "Oh yeah, he's really gross when he does that but he's so cute when he makes me laugh" Oh yeah, you both have to be able to laugh at shit. This includes heated discussions and arguing. Most of it's laughable when stop and listen to yourselves. [Edited 1/16/09 9:19am] | |
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Slave2daGroove said: SirPsycho said: WHY, AT TIMES, IS A MAN EXPECTED TO READ A WOMANS MIND (SEE: "YOU SHOULD JUST KNOW") IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN A "GOOD" RELATIONSHIP?? AND WHY DO WOMEN HOLD ON TO SOMETHING THEIR MAD ABOUT UNTIL THEY EXPLODE? INSTEAD OF SPEAKING UP WHEN THEY FIRST FEEL/FEL UNCOMFORTABLE?
ALSO, WHY IS IT WHEN WOMEN GET OLD (THO I KNOW A FEW YOUND WOMEN WHO DO THIS) YOU CANT GET THEM TO SIT DOWN? BOTH MY MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER WILL WASH DISHES, COOK GREENS, MOP THE FLOOR, MOVE FUNITURE, ETC. ETC. ON A DAY WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE RELAXING- ALL THE WHILE CURSING TO THE HEAVENS ABOUT HOW "THEY WISH THEY DIDNT HAVE TO DO THIS SHIT" EX: (1) MY GRANDMOTHER WOULD NOT SIT DOWN TO EAT AT THANKSGIVIN, EVEN THO THE REST OF THE FAM WAS SERVING THEMSELVES AND EACH OTHER SHE HAD TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD BUTTER FOR THEIR ROLL, AND CHECK TO MAKE SURE THE GRAVY LADELS MACHED THE BOWLS...
(2) MY MOTHER [ON CHRISTMAS] WOULD NOT JUST SIT AND ENJOY OPENING HER PRESENTS, SHE HAAAAD TO -WATER THE PLANTS -CHANGE LIGHTBULBS ...YOU GET THE PICTURE...NOT SAYING THIS STUFF DOESNT HAVE TO BE DONE...BUT IT COULD'VE WAITED, AND THEY DEF COULD'VE RELAXED I'm going to state the obvious for the last part of your questions. BECAUSE A MAN DIDN'T STEP-UP AND TAKE CONTROL OF THE SITUATION SO HER MIND COULD LET THEM GO. It's like having a list of things to do and you're the only one doing them for years by your self. It doesn't matter that it's Christmas, things need to get done. The next time this happens, say "look, I'll do it. You sit, I'll water the plants, I'll change the light bulbs". Of course after years of doing this she'll fight you, it has to be done "her way" but then point out the logic in light0buld replacement "her way" and get a good laugh but then STEP UP AND CHANGE THE LIGHTBULBS. Her mind has the list the list that needs to get done. oh no....we do that...i've followed my mother around the house to get her to relax...3 in the morning...she'll just go to her room and think up something to do.. | |
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SirPsycho said: [color=red]WHY, AT TIMES, IS A MAN EXPECTED TO READ A WOMANS MIND (SEE: "YOU SHOULD JUST KNOW") IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN A "GOOD" RELATIONSHIP?? AND WHY DO WOMEN HOLD ON TO SOMETHING THEIR MAD ABOUT UNTIL THEY EXPLODE? INSTEAD OF SPEAKING UP WHEN THEY FIRST FEEL/FEL UNCOMFORTABLE?
Because you are a human being, not a godamned motherfucking neanderthal Martian!
This is one thing that honestly makes me want to bash a motherfucker's brains in. With my ex we were together 5, I REPEAT F-I-V-E YEARS. Now after all that time is it really unreasonable that you should know my needs especially after I have told you over and over. I didn't hide my feelings, I expressed them and yet it was like he was having a conversation with someone he just met
Yeah, seriously men can fuck off with this fucking bullshit [Edited 1/16/09 9:52am] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: SirPsycho said: [color=red]WHY, AT TIMES, IS A MAN EXPECTED TO READ A WOMANS MIND (SEE: "YOU SHOULD JUST KNOW") IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN A "GOOD" RELATIONSHIP?? AND WHY DO WOMEN HOLD ON TO SOMETHING THEIR MAD ABOUT UNTIL THEY EXPLODE? INSTEAD OF SPEAKING UP WHEN THEY FIRST FEEL/FEL UNCOMFORTABLE?
Because you are a human being, not a godamned motherfucking neanderthal Martian!
This is one thing that honestly makes me want to bash a motherfucker's brains in. With my ex we were together [b]5, I REPEAT F-I-V-E YEARS. Now after all that time is it really unreasonable that you should know my needs especially after I have told you over and over. I didn't hide my feelings, I expressed them and yet it was like he was having a conversation with someone he just met
Yeah, seriously men can fuck off with this fucking bullshit yeah, but is it worth waiting for them to guess while you grow increasingly mad and stressed? | |
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SirPsycho said: EX: (1) MY GRANDMOTHER WOULD NOT SIT DOWN TO EAT AT THANKSGIVIN, EVEN THO THE REST OF THE FAM WAS SERVING THEMSELVES AND EACH OTHER SHE HAD TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD BUTTER FOR THEIR ROLL, AND CHECK TO MAKE SURE THE GRAVY LADELS MACHED THE BOWLS...
(2) MY MOTHER [ON CHRISTMAS] WOULD NOT JUST SIT AND ENJOY OPENING HER PRESENTS, SHE HAAAAD TO -WATER THE PLANTS -CHANGE LIGHTBULBS ...YOU GET THE PICTURE...NOT SAYING THIS STUFF DOESNT HAVE TO BE DONE...BUT IT COULD'VE WAITED, AND THEY DEF COULD'VE RELAXED[/b][/color] Yeah, women need to let the fucking reigns GO. Most of us kids stopped trying to help my mom because nothing I repeat NOTHING was done right. Why do anything if it's going to be ripped down to be put up or done the "right way". There's no sense in that. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SirPsycho said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Because you are a human being, not a godamned motherfucking neanderthal Martian!
This is one thing that honestly makes me want to bash a motherfucker's brains in. With my ex we were together 5, I REPEAT F-I-V-E YEARS. Now after all that time is it really unreasonable that you should know my needs especially after I have told you over and over. I didn't hide my feelings, I expressed them and yet it was like he was having a conversation with someone he just met
Yeah, seriously men can fuck off with this fucking bullshit yeah, but is it worth waiting for them to guess while you grow increasingly mad and stressed? It's worth punching your fucking face into a pulp, yes. That response right there is a declaration of war Yeah, I'm not bending to that fucking ridiculous like a stupid little bitch whimpering and cowering just to continually inform them when they really SHOULD goddamn know by now. I got a dick, I understand but please.2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: SirPsycho said: yeah, but is it worth waiting for them to guess while you grow increasingly mad and stressed? It's worth punching your fucking face into a pulp, yes. That response right there is a declaration of war Yeah, I'm not bending to that fucking ridiculous like a stupid little bitch whimpering and cowering just to continually inform them when they really SHOULD goddamn know by now. I got a dick, I understand but please.no i can dig that...and i agree some things should go unsaid after a certain point...but i say...either speak up or accept that YOU picked a man who doesnt give half a fuck what you say...its not his fault you stayed with him to that point... my whole thing is just i hate to see women stress over illogical shit when they dont have too....tell his ass about himself and bounce...dont wait for him to get right what he never had right in the first place, and grow increasingly stressed....it makes no sense (which is why [most]guys are quick to cut the cord on shit they wont stand for) | |
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SirPsycho said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: It's worth punching your fucking face into a pulp, yes. That response right there is a declaration of war Yeah, I'm not bending to that fucking ridiculous like a stupid little bitch whimpering and cowering just to continually inform them when they really SHOULD goddamn know by now. I got a dick, I understand but please.no i can dig that...and i agree some things should go unsaid after a certain point...but i say...either speak up or accept that YOU picked a man who doesnt give half a fuck what you say...its not his fault you stayed with him to that point... my whole thing is just i hate to see women stress over illogical shit when they dont have too....tell his ass about himself and bounce...dont wait for him to get right what he never had right in the first place, and grow increasingly stressed....it makes no sense (which is why [most]guys are quick to cut the cord on shit they wont stand for) Well I think you probably thought you struck a fatal blow there but I LEFT HIS ASS 3 YEARS AGO. I know how to handle my shit. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: SirPsycho said: no i can dig that...and i agree some things should go unsaid after a certain point...but i say...either speak up or accept that YOU picked a man who doesnt give half a fuck what you say...its not his fault you stayed with him to that point... my whole thing is just i hate to see women stress over illogical shit when they dont have too....tell his ass about himself and bounce...dont wait for him to get right what he never had right in the first place, and grow increasingly stressed....it makes no sense (which is why [most]guys are quick to cut the cord on shit they wont stand for) Well I think you probably thought you struck a fatal blow there but I LEFT HIS ASS 3 YEARS AGO. I know how to handle my shit. and i'm glad you do...i just wish more women did.. | |
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SirPsycho said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Well I think you probably thought you struck a fatal blow there but I LEFT HIS ASS 3 YEARS AGO. I know how to handle my shit. and i'm glad you do...i just wish more women did.. You're trying to make me agree with you! 
Me too 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: SirPsycho said: and i'm glad you do...i just wish more women did.. You're trying to make me agree with you!
Me too i'm trying to stay on topic...
YOU'RE just trying to debate, and avoid how impressed you are with me...  | |
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SirPsycho said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: You're trying to make me agree with you!
Me too i'm trying to stay on topic...
YOU'RE just trying to debate, and avoid how impressed you are with me... I have told you that which means you are listening to me! 
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: SirPsycho said: i'm trying to stay on topic...
YOU'RE just trying to debate, and avoid how impressed you are with me... I have told you that which means you are listening to me!
yaknow...even tho i didnt mention you in my 'return thread' i miss you especially "soup"  | |
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SirPsycho said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I have told you that which means you are listening to me!
yaknow...even tho i didnt mention you in my 'return thread' i miss you especially "soup" 
:fallingout: I'd rather you tell me in my own thread! 
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: SirPsycho said:
yaknow...even tho i didnt mention you in my 'return thread' i miss you especially "soup"
:fallingout: I'd rather you tell me in my own thread!
seriously...(try not to blush ) even tho i'm far from how 'phobic i used to be, some gay guys- when interested in me- can be a little too eager and make me VERY uncomfortable...
and even tho i hate the idea of "avoiding someone simply cuz of preference" i've only met a short few who i'm enough at ease i can actually joke and play with the attraction and not feel the urge to "run away" so i appeciate that about you (even tho im not sure if that has more to do with you than me  ) either way your like 1 of 3...and the other two i went to high school with and got to know them through theater
(dont ask me why i shared all that...im in a loving mood today...i blame sammi and our fb convos about art projects ) | |
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SirPsycho said: WHY, AT TIMES, IS A MAN EXPECTED TO READ A WOMANS MIND (SEE: "YOU SHOULD JUST KNOW") IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN A "GOOD" RELATIONSHIP?? AND WHY DO WOMEN HOLD ON TO SOMETHING THEIR MAD ABOUT UNTIL THEY EXPLODE? INSTEAD OF SPEAKING UP WHEN THEY FIRST FEEL/FEL UNCOMFORTABLE?
..because if you're in a relationship, women want you to understand their vibe and understand their connection... it's a bond that women want men to get in touch with ... therefore, you are 'suppose' to just know how she is feeling lol.... | |
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Flowers2 said: SirPsycho said: WHY, AT TIMES, IS A MAN EXPECTED TO READ A WOMANS MIND (SEE: "YOU SHOULD JUST KNOW") IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN A "GOOD" RELATIONSHIP?? AND WHY DO WOMEN HOLD ON TO SOMETHING THEIR MAD ABOUT UNTIL THEY EXPLODE? INSTEAD OF SPEAKING UP WHEN THEY FIRST FEEL/FEL UNCOMFORTABLE?
..because if you're in a relationship, women want you to understand their vibe and understand their connection... it's a bond that women want men to get in touch with ... therefore, you are 'suppose' to just know how she is feeling lol.... well if that be the case, matey, then why isn't the reverse true? Most women could care less what their man's vibe is or whats on his mind if its not HER 24/7/365....'splain please!!
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
(George Eliot) the video for the above... 
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Flowers2 said: SirPsycho said: WHY, AT TIMES, IS A MAN EXPECTED TO READ A WOMANS MIND (SEE: "YOU SHOULD JUST KNOW") IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN A "GOOD" RELATIONSHIP?? AND WHY DO WOMEN HOLD ON TO SOMETHING THEIR MAD ABOUT UNTIL THEY EXPLODE? INSTEAD OF SPEAKING UP WHEN THEY FIRST FEEL/FEL UNCOMFORTABLE?
..because if you're in a relationship, women want you to understand their vibe and understand their connection... it's a bond that women want men to get in touch with ... therefore, you are 'suppose' to just know how she is feeling lol.... i can tell by your use of "lol" that you know thats that bullshit
i mean i get you...but really doe... | |
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SirPsycho said: Flowers2 said: ..because if you're in a relationship, women want you to understand their vibe and understand their connection... it's a bond that women want men to get in touch with ... therefore, you are 'suppose' to just know how she is feeling lol.... i can tell by your use of "lol" that you know thats that bullshit
i mean i get you...but really doe... no seriously... I did 'lol' cause yeah it sounds funny, but women DO want men to be in touch with their understanding... a man is around his woman all the time, and after being around her awhile she's gonna expect him to understand where she's coming from and she feels she shouldn't have to explain it to him cause he's around her enough to understand her... | |
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Flowers2 said: SirPsycho said: i can tell by your use of "lol" that you know thats that bullshit
i mean i get you...but really doe... no seriously... I did 'lol' cause yeah it sounds funny, but women DO want men to be in touch with their understanding... a man is around his woman all the time, and after being around her awhile she's gonna expect him to understand where she's coming from and she feels she shouldn't have to explain it to him cause he's around her enough to understand her... my girl said the same thing...but renegade is right....ya'll be the first to cry out "talk to me! im not a mind reader!" | |
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SirPsycho said: Flowers2 said: no seriously... I did 'lol' cause yeah it sounds funny, but women DO want men to be in touch with their understanding... a man is around his woman all the time, and after being around her awhile she's gonna expect him to understand where she's coming from and she feels she shouldn't have to explain it to him cause he's around her enough to understand her... my girl said the same thing...but renegade is right....ya'll be the first to cry out "talk to me! im not a mind reader!" See this is the game, trying to convince us we're crazy 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: SirPsycho said: my girl said the same thing...but renegade is right....ya'll be the first to cry out "talk to me! im not a mind reader!" See this is the game, trying to convince us we're crazy oh trust me I KNOW! ...thats why the ladies like me i'm like the gay friend who down to fuck | |
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SirPsycho said: Flowers2 said: no seriously... I did 'lol' cause yeah it sounds funny, but women DO want men to be in touch with their understanding... a man is around his woman all the time, and after being around her awhile she's gonna expect him to understand where she's coming from and she feels she shouldn't have to explain it to him cause he's around her enough to understand her... my girl said the same thing...but renegade is right....ya'll be the first to cry out "talk to me! im not a mind reader!"  yes, your gf is right.... if the guy and girl are constantly communicating, he'll know her and all her ways... | |
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Flowers2 said: SirPsycho said: my girl said the same thing...but renegade is right....ya'll be the first to cry out "talk to me! im not a mind reader!" yes, your gf is right.... if the guy and girl are constantly communicating, he'll know her and all her ways... ...you know thats just wrong | |
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Flowers2 said: SirPsycho said: WHY, AT TIMES, IS A MAN EXPECTED TO READ A WOMANS MIND (SEE: "YOU SHOULD JUST KNOW") IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN A "GOOD" RELATIONSHIP?? AND WHY DO WOMEN HOLD ON TO SOMETHING THEIR MAD ABOUT UNTIL THEY EXPLODE? INSTEAD OF SPEAKING UP WHEN THEY FIRST FEEL/FEL UNCOMFORTABLE?
..because if you're in a relationship, women want you to understand their vibe and understand their connection... it's a bond that women want men to get in touch with ... therefore, you are 'suppose' to just know how she is feeling lol.... My take on it is that many women don't really want to hear the truth of what their man has to say so they hold it in and just simmer. | |
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JustErin said: Flowers2 said: ..because if you're in a relationship, women want you to understand their vibe and understand their connection... it's a bond that women want men to get in touch with ... therefore, you are 'suppose' to just know how she is feeling lol.... My take on it is that many women don't really want to hear the truth of what their man has to say so they hold it in and just simmer. Glad mine's not like that, it would've been over by now... | |
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Slave2daGroove said: JustErin said: My take on it is that many women don't really want to hear the truth of what their man has to say so they hold it in and just simmer. Glad mine's not like that, it would've been over by now... It must be difficult dealing with such a shy introverted wall flower  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Slave2daGroove said: JustErin said: My take on it is that many women don't really want to hear the truth of what their man has to say so they hold it in and just simmer. Glad mine's not like that, it would've been over by now... I would hope so. I wouldn't be able to fucking handle that shit. | |
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