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Thread started 01/12/09 8:16pm

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Finger length may predict financial success

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WASHINGTON – The length of a man's ring finger may predict his success as a financial trader. Researchers at the University of Cambridge in England report that men with longer ring fingers, compared to their index fingers, tended to be more successful in the frantic high-frequency trading in the London financial district.

Indeed, the impact of biology on success was about equal to years of experience at the job, the team led by physiologist John M. Coates reports in Monday's edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The same ring-to-index finger ratio has previously been associated with success in competitive sports such as soccer and basketball, the researchers noted.

The length ratio between those two fingers is determined during the development of the fetus and the relatively longer ring finger indicates greater exposure to the male hormone androgen, the researchers noted.

Previous studies have found that such exposure can lead to increased confidence, risk preferences, search persistence, heightened vigilance and quickened reaction times.

In a separate study last year, Coates and colleagues reported that the hormone that drives male aggression and sexual interest also seemed able to boost short term success at finance.

They studied male financial traders in London, taking saliva samples in the morning and evening. They found that those with higher levels of testosterone in the morning were more likely to make an unusually big profit that day. Testosterone, best known as the male sex hormone, affects aggression, confidence and risk-taking.

In the new study, the researchers measured the right hands of 44 male stock traders who were engaged in a type of trade that involved rapid decision-making and quick physical reactions.

Over 20 months those with longer ring fingers compared to their index fingers made 11 times more money than those with the shortest ring fingers. Over the same time the most experienced traders made about 9 times more than the least experienced ones.

Looking only at experienced traders, the long-ring-finger folks earned 5 times more than those with short ring fingers.

While the finger ratio, showing fetal exposure to male hormones, appears to signal likely success in high-actively trading that calls for risk-taking and quick reactions, it may not indicate people who would do well at other sorts of financial activities, the researchers said.

Some traders require additional skills on dealing with clients and sales workers.

And the advantage may even reverse for some, Coates team said, such as traders taking a more analytical and long-term approach to the markets.

One study, which looked at average finger ratios in university departments found that faculty from math, science and engineering exhibited longer index finger ratio, rather than ring finger, they noted.
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Reply #1 posted 01/12/09 9:16pm

JasmineFire

You should forward this to Sheree. nod

She would find it useful in her future endeavors. lol
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Reply #2 posted 01/12/09 9:52pm

Flowers2

eh .. I don't buy that..
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Reply #3 posted 01/12/09 9:55pm

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It's actually correlated with heterosexuality as well. geek
"What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?"
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Reply #4 posted 01/12/09 9:57pm

ZombieKitten

tackam said:

It's actually correlated with heterosexuality as well. geek

only in men?
my ring fingers are exactly same length as my index finger hmmm
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Reply #5 posted 01/12/09 10:00pm

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ZombieKitten said:

tackam said:

It's actually correlated with heterosexuality as well. geek

only in men?
my ring fingers are exactly same length as my index finger hmmm


Reverse for women. Lesbians are more likely to have the straight-guy finger-length ratio (a longer ring finger than index finger).

On my left hand, they're the same. On my right, the ring finger is much longer. Further evidence that I'm a freak.
"What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?"
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Reply #6 posted 01/12/09 11:17pm

ZombieKitten

tackam said:

ZombieKitten said:


only in men?
my ring fingers are exactly same length as my index finger hmmm


Reverse for women. Lesbians are more likely to have the straight-guy finger-length ratio (a longer ring finger than index finger).

On my left hand, they're the same. On my right, the ring finger is much longer. Further evidence that I'm a freak.


mine too! omfg
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Reply #7 posted 01/13/09 3:49am

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ZombieKitten said:

tackam said:



Reverse for women. Lesbians are more likely to have the straight-guy finger-length ratio (a longer ring finger than index finger).

On my left hand, they're the same. On my right, the ring finger is much longer. Further evidence that I'm a freak.


mine too! omfg


I didn't know people had different lengths. redface

I guess I never thought about it. lol I assumed we all had relatively the same hand shape. My middle finger is the longest, with ring next, then pointer/index.
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Reply #8 posted 01/13/09 6:08am

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tackam said:

ZombieKitten said:


only in men?
my ring fingers are exactly same length as my index finger hmmm


Reverse for women. Lesbians are more likely to have the straight-guy finger-length ratio (a longer ring finger than index finger).

On my left hand, they're the same. On my right, the ring finger is much longer. Further evidence that I'm a freak.


No Shit! My finger lengths haven't changed, but now my attraction for females ain't there no mo, but I'm still a freak...so that says wat?
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #9 posted 01/13/09 8:37am

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ZombieKitten said:

tackam said:



Reverse for women. Lesbians are more likely to have the straight-guy finger-length ratio (a longer ring finger than index finger).

On my left hand, they're the same. On my right, the ring finger is much longer. Further evidence that I'm a freak.


mine too! omfg


Freak! nod

Edit: ok, seriously, bisexuals are usually left out of these studies. Wouldn't it be funny if we, literally, are straight on one hand and gay on the other? lol
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Reply #10 posted 01/13/09 8:40am

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JayJai said:

tackam said:



Reverse for women. Lesbians are more likely to have the straight-guy finger-length ratio (a longer ring finger than index finger).

On my left hand, they're the same. On my right, the ring finger is much longer. Further evidence that I'm a freak.


No Shit! My finger lengths haven't changed, but now my attraction for females ain't there no mo, but I'm still a freak...so that says wat?


I guess it says that sexuality may be more complicated than the correlation with finger length. Ah, well. sigh
"What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?"
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Reply #11 posted 01/13/09 8:41am

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tackam said:

ZombieKitten said:



mine too! omfg


Freak! nod

Edit: ok, seriously, bisexuals are usually left out of these studies. Wouldn't it be funny if we, literally, are straight on one hand and gay on the other? lol
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Reply #12 posted 01/13/09 8:42am

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CarrieMpls said:

ZombieKitten said:



mine too! omfg


I didn't know people had different lengths. redface

I guess I never thought about it. lol I assumed we all had relatively the same hand shape. My middle finger is the longest, with ring next, then pointer/index.



You have gay hands. Or maybe just financially successful hands. mr.green
"What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?"
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Reply #13 posted 01/13/09 9:24am

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tackam said:

CarrieMpls said:



I didn't know people had different lengths. redface

I guess I never thought about it. lol I assumed we all had relatively the same hand shape. My middle finger is the longest, with ring next, then pointer/index.



You have gay hands. Or maybe just financially successful hands. mr.green


Wait, I thought you were saying that the longer ring finger is the lesbian/$$$$$ signifier. confuse
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Reply #14 posted 01/13/09 9:27am

Dayclear

More bullshit!
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Reply #15 posted 01/13/09 10:20am

ArielB

My ring finger is longer and I suck at trading.

What a waste of money this research is.
And who came up with this idea that it could be related??? wacky
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Reply #16 posted 01/13/09 11:17am

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Reply #17 posted 01/13/09 12:28pm

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CarrieMpls said:

tackam said:




You have gay hands. Or maybe just financially successful hands. mr.green


Wait, I thought you were saying that the longer ring finger is the lesbian/$$$$$ signifier. confuse


Ring finger longer than pointer finger. I think everybody (?) has a longer middle finger.
"What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?"
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Reply #18 posted 01/13/09 2:09pm

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tackam said:

CarrieMpls said:



Wait, I thought you were saying that the longer ring finger is the lesbian/$$$$$ signifier. confuse


Ring finger longer than pointer finger. I think everybody (?) has a longer middle finger.


ooooohhhhh.

OK, then I never really noticed. lol But yes, my ring finger is longer than my pointer. Which must mean I'm secretly a lesbian.
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Reply #19 posted 01/13/09 3:30pm

Vendetta1

What about us women traders?
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Reply #20 posted 01/13/09 3:34pm

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Vendetta1 said:

What about us women traders?

I noticed that women weren't included in the finding so I'm going to assume that there's a correlation. I have heard before that the length of the ring finger is indicative of higher testorone levels regardless of gender. Needless to say both of my ring fingers are longer than my index finger, which I think explains a lot, including the size of my metaphorical balls. lol
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Reply #21 posted 01/13/09 3:45pm

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SCNDLS said:

Vendetta1 said:

What about us women traders?

I noticed that women weren't included in the finding so I'm going to assume that there's a correlation. I have heard before that the length of the ring finger is indicative of higher testorone levels regardless of gender. Needless to say both of my ring fingers are longer than my index finger, which I think explains a lot, including the size of my metaphorical balls. lol
lol

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Reply #22 posted 01/13/09 3:46pm

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Vendetta1 said:

SCNDLS said:


I noticed that women weren't included in the finding so I'm going to assume that there's a correlation. I have heard before that the length of the ring finger is indicative of higher testorone levels regardless of gender. Needless to say both of my ring fingers are longer than my index finger, which I think explains a lot, including the size of my metaphorical balls. lol
lol

worship

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Reply #23 posted 01/13/09 3:47pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

I'm fucked....
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #24 posted 01/13/09 3:54pm

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I'm fucked....
lol
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Reply #25 posted 01/13/09 3:59pm

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CarrieMpls said:

tackam said:



Ring finger longer than pointer finger. I think everybody (?) has a longer middle finger.


ooooohhhhh.

OK, then I never really noticed. lol But yes, my ring finger is longer than my pointer. Which must mean I'm secretly a lesbian.


I knew it.
"What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?"
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Reply #26 posted 01/13/09 5:52pm

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tackam said:

CarrieMpls said:



ooooohhhhh.

OK, then I never really noticed. lol But yes, my ring finger is longer than my pointer. Which must mean I'm secretly a lesbian.


I knew it.




falloff
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #27 posted 01/13/09 5:53pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

Vendetta1 said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I'm fucked....
lol



I have short fingers all around.... sad
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #28 posted 01/13/09 6:02pm

ZombieKitten

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my metaphorical balls. lol

do you metaphorically scratch them in public? enquiring minds need to know!
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Reply #29 posted 01/13/09 6:42pm

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what about dodgy fingers that curl back at the tips- and twist to the side hmmm
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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