johnart said: kpowers said: Mothers Day, never heard it...but I want to check it out now Dam want to see it now | |
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WildheartXXX said: sextonseven said: Two of my favorite vampire films that are relatively unknown are:
Habit (1997) Vampyr (1931) I've not seen Habit, in fact i've never heard of it. Im damn ashamed as i thought i knew my horror. Vampyr is pretty darn amazing. I've only seen it once but those images are imbedded in my head. Fabulous movie and talking of fabulous movies everyone has seen Let The Right One In right? The best Vampire movie in forever, well since Martin anyway at least. Habit is an extremely below-the-radar, DIY vampire movie. The appeal to me is that it's totally set in NYC and might be the most realistic vampire film I've ever seen. | |
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johnart said: kpowers said: Mothers Day, never heard it...but I want to check it out now I saw Mother's Day when I was very young. That movie had some really messed-up scenes in it. Or at least I found them extremely disturbing at the time. It was part of a double feature my dad showed us at home along with Gates Of Hell. | |
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sextonseven said: WildheartXXX said: I've not seen Habit, in fact i've never heard of it. Im damn ashamed as i thought i knew my horror. Vampyr is pretty darn amazing. I've only seen it once but those images are imbedded in my head. Fabulous movie and talking of fabulous movies everyone has seen Let The Right One In right? The best Vampire movie in forever, well since Martin anyway at least. Habit is an extremely below-the-radar, DIY vampire movie. The appeal to me is that it's totally set in NYC and might be the most realistic vampire film I've ever seen. I never saw this. I can't believe it because I am a horror fan. I will look for it now. Have you seen Let the Right One In? "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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sextonseven said: johnart said: I saw Mother's Day when I was very young. That movie had some really messed-up scenes in it. Or at least I found them extremely disturbing at the time. It was part of a double feature my dad showed us at home along with Gates Of Hell. It's totally messed up. I was 8 when I first saw it. My first movie was "Snow White". My second movie was "Halloween". I was 6. | |
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The People Under the Stairs. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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noimageatall said: sextonseven said: Habit is an extremely below-the-radar, DIY vampire movie. The appeal to me is that it's totally set in NYC and might be the most realistic vampire film I've ever seen. I never saw this. I can't believe it because I am a horror fan. I will look for it now. Have you seen Let the Right One In? You could say I've seen it: http://prince.org/msg/100/286581 | |
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sextonseven said: noimageatall said: I never saw this. I can't believe it because I am a horror fan. I will look for it now. Have you seen Let the Right One In? You could say I've seen it: http://prince.org/msg/100/286581 How did I forget about that thread? Imago did a great review. And yes, the dad was gay! "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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noimageatall said: sextonseven said: How did I forget about that thread? Imago did a great review. And yes, the dad was gay! he was an alcoholic and his friend was a freeloader who came over to get free booze | |
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Mars23 said: I have liked all of the Japanese versions that Hollywood has ripped off lately.
Let the Right One In was great. So good Hollywood already started remaking it before it was even released! I'm kinda over horror in general, but the foreign movies are just made better. It's Swedish! The novel is soooo much better though, even to a vamp phreak like me. | |
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The Europeans seem to be making the best horror movies at the moment. Rec and Inside were both very good. I still can't wait to see Martyrs. It played one night here in Nottingham and then was gone.
Im actually looking forward to seeing the new My Bloody Valentine remake. It's actually got good reviews. I think the filmmakers understand it's just a slasher movie and have delivered. Believe it or not there is a Last House On The Left remake out in March! | |
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ZombieKitten said: noimageatall said: How did I forget about that thread? Imago did a great review. And yes, the dad was gay! he was an alcoholic and his friend was a freeloader who came over to get free booze Is that what the book said? I always had bad gaydar. | |
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WildheartXXX said: The Europeans seem to be making the best horror movies at the moment. Rec and Inside were both very good. I still can't wait to see Martyrs. It played one night here in Nottingham and then was gone.
Im actually looking forward to seeing the new My Bloody Valentine remake. It's actually got good reviews. I think the filmmakers understand it's just a slasher movie and have delivered. Believe it or not there is a Last House On The Left remake out in March! I LOVED REC!!!!! I forgot who told me about it here on the org. I found it and watched it. I speak Spanish so it was no problem watching it.The last 10 minutes were creepy and that "thing" was scary!!! I had to watch the American version and it didn't live up to the original. They never do. [Edited 1/15/09 10:33am] MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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sextonseven said: ZombieKitten said: he was an alcoholic and his friend was a freeloader who came over to get free booze Is that what the book said? I always had bad gaydar. No. As far as Imago's thread goes, y'all are so wrong. If you saw the Swedish version, you should know that the suburb of Stockholm and the time it depicts are DEAD ON. It's so good it's scary - people really looked like that, and the places really still look like that. The author wrote the script himself, so he put what he wanted to be in there in there. Eli isn't a girl really, she was born a boy but had her boy parts cut off by a nobleman in the 18th century, as he liked "female boys". Hence her stunted growth. The man who "took care of her" is a paedophile, he stayed with her because she would sometimes let him touch her, as a reward. Oskar will be nothing like it, he loves Eli for who she is, not because she's a child that he's got sexual feelings for. As for Eli's intelligence, I imagine that you get better at problem solving after a few hundred bored years. | |
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Teacher said: sextonseven said: Is that what the book said? I always had bad gaydar. No. As far as Imago's thread goes, y'all are so wrong. If you saw the Swedish version, you should know that the suburb of Stockholm and the time it depicts are DEAD ON. It's so good it's scary - people really looked like that, and the places really still look like that. The author wrote the script himself, so he put what he wanted to be in there in there. Eli isn't a girl really, she was born a boy but had her boy parts cut off by a nobleman in the 18th century, as he liked "female boys". Hence her stunted growth. The man who "took care of her" is a paedophile, he stayed with her because she would sometimes let him touch her, as a reward. Oskar will be nothing like it, he loves Eli for who she is, not because she's a child that he's got sexual feelings for. As for Eli's intelligence, I imagine that you get better at problem solving after a few hundred bored years. If we saw the Swedish version? What other version of the movie is there? Charlotte already explained to me the whole subplot about how Eli used to be a boy, but thanks. | |
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sextonseven said: Teacher said: No. As far as Imago's thread goes, y'all are so wrong. If you saw the Swedish version, you should know that the suburb of Stockholm and the time it depicts are DEAD ON. It's so good it's scary - people really looked like that, and the places really still look like that. The author wrote the script himself, so he put what he wanted to be in there in there. Eli isn't a girl really, she was born a boy but had her boy parts cut off by a nobleman in the 18th century, as he liked "female boys". Hence her stunted growth. The man who "took care of her" is a paedophile, he stayed with her because she would sometimes let him touch her, as a reward. Oskar will be nothing like it, he loves Eli for who she is, not because she's a child that he's got sexual feelings for. As for Eli's intelligence, I imagine that you get better at problem solving after a few hundred bored years. If we saw the Swedish version? What other version of the movie is there? Charlotte already explained to me the whole subplot about how Eli used to be a boy, but thanks. I thought Imago had seen the american version but I don't know if it's still in the making, I can't really see how he could comment on the director capturing Sweden at that time if he saw the original though, since the director is Swedish and everybody involved are Swedish. I won't see the american one regardless cos it'll only piss me off I didn't know she'd explained, but good that she did. [Edited 1/15/09 11:14am] | |
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Teacher said: sextonseven said: If we saw the Swedish version? What other version of the movie is there? Charlotte already explained to me the whole subplot about how Eli used to be a boy, but thanks. I thought Imago had seen the american version but I don't know if it's still in the making, I can't really see how he could comment on the director capturing Sweden at that time if he saw the original though, since the director is Swedish and everybody involved are Swedish. I won't see the american one regardless cos it'll only piss me off I didn't know she'd explained, but good that she did. [Edited 1/15/09 11:14am] The American remake is scheduled for release in 2010. I know it will suck. Charlotte told me in an orgnote so no one knew really. | |
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sextonseven said: Teacher said: I thought Imago had seen the american version but I don't know if it's still in the making, I can't really see how he could comment on the director capturing Sweden at that time if he saw the original though, since the director is Swedish and everybody involved are Swedish. I won't see the american one regardless cos it'll only piss me off I didn't know she'd explained, but good that she did. [Edited 1/15/09 11:14am] The American remake is scheduled for release in 2010. I know it will suck. Charlotte told me in an orgnote so no one knew really. Then I REALLY don't understand how Imago can have ANY idea about how well the director captures Sweden, especially since I don't think he's ever been here and definitely not in Blackeberg in the 80's. | |
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sextonseven said: Teacher said: I thought Imago had seen the american version but I don't know if it's still in the making, I can't really see how he could comment on the director capturing Sweden at that time if he saw the original though, since the director is Swedish and everybody involved are Swedish. I won't see the american one regardless cos it'll only piss me off I didn't know she'd explained, but good that she did. [Edited 1/15/09 11:14am] The American remake is scheduled for release in 2010. I know it will suck. Charlotte told me in an orgnote so no one knew really. You know I thought that when I saw the "scene." It actually looked as if something had been cut off. An I don't know about the scene with the father an the friend. There certainly seemed to be way too much tension around the table for alcohol to be the only reason. Especially since so many people were drinking in the movie. I just felt there was something else going on that they didn't want Oskar to know about. "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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johnart said: I was gonna say this! SUPRMAN said: The People Under the Stairs.
Yes. this... grosses me the hell out. There is another one I can't remember the name of, with this little nasty looking rat that bit this woman and all hell breaks loose. I can't eat for like a week or so after watching those movies. surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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Teacher said: sextonseven said: The American remake is scheduled for release in 2010. I know it will suck. Charlotte told me in an orgnote so no one knew really. Then I REALLY don't understand how Imago can have ANY idea about how well the director captures Sweden, especially since I don't think he's ever been here and definitely not in Blackeberg in the 80's. yeah he is comparing the film to american movies, which it can't be! it's very specific to time and place not a general "any time" or "any place" I used to wear clothes like that when I was a kid!!! | |
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noimageatall said: sextonseven said: The American remake is scheduled for release in 2010. I know it will suck. Charlotte told me in an orgnote so no one knew really. You know I thought that when I saw the "scene." It actually looked as if something had been cut off. An I don't know about the scene with the father an the friend. There certainly seemed to be way too much tension around the table for alcohol to be the only reason. Especially since so many people were drinking in the movie. I just felt there was something else going on that they didn't want Oskar to know about. yes, it had - Eli was a boy to begin with. Oskar is very tense and annoyed, since once his dad is drunk, Oskar is ignored totally, he basks in his dad's love and attention, but when he is drunk he is a stranger who disgusts Oskar. | |
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ZombieKitten said: noimageatall said: You know I thought that when I saw the "scene." It actually looked as if something had been cut off. An I don't know about the scene with the father an the friend. There certainly seemed to be way too much tension around the table for alcohol to be the only reason. Especially since so many people were drinking in the movie. I just felt there was something else going on that they didn't want Oskar to know about. yes, it had - Eli was a boy to begin with. Oskar is very tense and annoyed, since once his dad is drunk, Oskar is ignored totally, he basks in his dad's love and attention, but when he is drunk he is a stranger who disgusts Oskar. And Oskar saw her naked. Was he supposed to be very innocent in the book, that he wouldn't know what she/he was supposed to look like "down there?" Because 12 yo American boys are not innocent and would have probably freaked out, said something really mean, and run away as fast as possible. Or did he know and just not care? I personally loved the winter scenery, clothing, and surroundings. I know we will butcher this movie. "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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noimageatall said: ZombieKitten said: yes, it had - Eli was a boy to begin with. Oskar is very tense and annoyed, since once his dad is drunk, Oskar is ignored totally, he basks in his dad's love and attention, but when he is drunk he is a stranger who disgusts Oskar. And Oskar saw her naked. Was he supposed to be very innocent in the book, that he wouldn't know what she/he was supposed to look like "down there?" Because 12 yo American boys are not innocent and would have probably freaked out, said something really mean, and run away as fast as possible. Or did he know and just not care? I personally loved the winter scenery, clothing, and surroundings. I know we will butcher this movie. This was in the early 80s - no internet - kids heard things older kids were talking about, and Oskar was sneaking peeks at nudie mags in the basement the older kids were leaving behind, remember also that women had fluffy muffs in those days, and Oskar didn't have a sister or anything, so it MAY very well have been likely he'd never seen a little girl naked before! although this is sweden you're talking about! She had already suggested to him he wasn't a girl, and he knew she was a vampire, so perhaps he wasn't really surprised, since there was nothing at all ordinary about Eli anyway. | |
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ZombieKitten said: noimageatall said: And Oskar saw her naked. Was he supposed to be very innocent in the book, that he wouldn't know what she/he was supposed to look like "down there?" Because 12 yo American boys are not innocent and would have probably freaked out, said something really mean, and run away as fast as possible. Or did he know and just not care? I personally loved the winter scenery, clothing, and surroundings. I know we will butcher this movie. This was in the early 80s - no internet - kids heard things older kids were talking about, and Oskar was sneaking peeks at nudie mags in the basement the older kids were leaving behind, remember also that women had fluffy muffs in those days, and Oskar didn't have a sister or anything, so it MAY very well have been likely he'd never seen a little girl naked before! although this is sweden you're talking about! She had already suggested to him he wasn't a girl, and he knew she was a vampire, so perhaps he wasn't really surprised, since there was nothing at all ordinary about Eli anyway. That's why I can't see why they are remaking it here. Even in the 80's, you'd be hard pressed to find a 12 yo who was that innocent. That is, if they don't transplant it to modern day. Those actors were so perfect in their roles. I think about Kurstin Dunst in Interview With the Vampire, which was even set in the 1700's, and even she didn't have that innocent quality. But I actually thought she was great until I saw these kids. t edit [Edited 1/15/09 18:43pm] "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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noimageatall said: ZombieKitten said: This was in the early 80s - no internet - kids heard things older kids were talking about, and Oskar was sneaking peeks at nudie mags in the basement the older kids were leaving behind, remember also that women had fluffy muffs in those days, and Oskar didn't have a sister or anything, so it MAY very well have been likely he'd never seen a little girl naked before! although this is sweden you're talking about! She had already suggested to him he wasn't a girl, and he knew she was a vampire, so perhaps he wasn't really surprised, since there was nothing at all ordinary about Eli anyway. That's why I can't see why they are remaking it here. Even in the 80's, you'd be hard pressed to find a 12 yo who was that innocent. That is, if they don't transplant it to modern day. Those actors were so perfect in their roles. I think about Kurstin Dunst in Interview With the Vampire, which was even set in the 1700's, and even she didn't have that innocent quality. But I actually thought she was great until I saw these kids. yes!! they really were! Oskar was so perfectly pathetic in the face of the bullies, it was like he was emotionally paralysed. I will still watch the remake, like not being able to look away from a car accident and yes they set it in the past. Although, if you think about it, the whole Eli gender issue in the film needn't be there, I bet they can do away with all of that in a remake. They probably WON'T sleep nude in the same bed either - good heavens!! | |
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ZombieKitten said: noimageatall said: That's why I can't see why they are remaking it here. Even in the 80's, you'd be hard pressed to find a 12 yo who was that innocent. That is, if they don't transplant it to modern day. Those actors were so perfect in their roles. I think about Kurstin Dunst in Interview With the Vampire, which was even set in the 1700's, and even she didn't have that innocent quality. But I actually thought she was great until I saw these kids. yes!! they really were! Oskar was so perfectly pathetic in the face of the bullies, it was like he was emotionally paralysed. I will still watch the remake, like not being able to look away from a car accident and yes they set it in the past. Although, if you think about it, the whole Eli gender issue in the film needn't be there, I bet they can do away with all of that in a remake. They probably WON'T sleep nude in the same bed either - good heavens!! Let The Right One In was a truly special movie. It really transcended genre. I don't think i've ever felt touched by a horror movie but i was and when Eli came back to save Oskar in the pool at the end i had a mile wide smile. Amazing scene and you hardly saw anything graphically. I never buy DVD's but when that one comes out ill be picking it up. [Edited 1/15/09 20:28pm] | |
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ZombieKitten said: noimageatall said: That's why I can't see why they are remaking it here. Even in the 80's, you'd be hard pressed to find a 12 yo who was that innocent. That is, if they don't transplant it to modern day. Those actors were so perfect in their roles. I think about Kurstin Dunst in Interview With the Vampire, which was even set in the 1700's, and even she didn't have that innocent quality. But I actually thought she was great until I saw these kids. yes!! they really were! Oskar was so perfectly pathetic in the face of the bullies, it was like he was emotionally paralysed. I will still watch the remake, like not being able to look away from a car accident and yes they set it in the past. Although, if you think about it, the whole Eli gender issue in the film needn't be there, I bet they can do away with all of that in a remake. They probably WON'T sleep nude in the same bed either - good heavens!! No, they won't show that scene here in the hypocritical States of America. I hope they don't make the pool scene into a slash fest. It was perfect and disturbing just as it was. But, knowing us, the more gore the better. I think the gender issue added another layer of mystery to the film. Something to, you know, wonder and talk about for weeks. "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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noimageatall said: ZombieKitten said: yes!! they really were! Oskar was so perfectly pathetic in the face of the bullies, it was like he was emotionally paralysed. I will still watch the remake, like not being able to look away from a car accident and yes they set it in the past. Although, if you think about it, the whole Eli gender issue in the film needn't be there, I bet they can do away with all of that in a remake. They probably WON'T sleep nude in the same bed either - good heavens!! No, they won't show that scene here in the hypocritical States of America. I hope they don't make the pool scene into a slash fest. It was perfect and disturbing just as it was. But, knowing us, the more gore the better. I think the gender issue added another layer of mystery to the film. Something to, you know, wonder and talk about for weeks. that's true I haven't shut up about that since last month | |
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As the film evolves, and it's got so much more room in the novel, the relationship between Oskar and Eli sways - he gets shocked, disgusted and scared of her but he still wants to be with her. They are just Eli and Oskar, no label is needed on their relationship. It's one of the most beautiful love stories I have ever read. | |
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